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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2010, 05:31:24 PM »
This guy is an idiot.....and as far as Georgia goes....we supply and train the Georgian Army with counter terrorism training and associated equipment, not M1 tanks. They did however have a US trained artillery unit, in company strength, outfitted with US fire fighter radar, lasers etc etc. These guy's came in contact with your bullshit armor formations as you came strolling down the main highway early in the invasion and shitcanned almost a regiment of Russian junk before they went black on ammo and had to retreat. Less then 100 guys stopped your invasion for almost 24hrs.  Further if you watch the bombing of Tiblisi by the vaunted Russian airforce, it took them days, not hours,days to hit simple targets like water towers and radio stations. Your fucking military, though big, is a joke. The remains of the soviet military machine are all over Afghanistan...they have junk piles of crap everywhere. You can still go up near the Kuwait/Iraq border and see rusting soviet junk. It took us 100hrs to crush Russian supplied crap, with russian supplied doctrine. Your troops are nothing better then animals.

That's grade A ownage right there.

Russian military = glorified third world

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2010, 10:58:32 PM »
This guy is an idiot.....and as far as Georgia goes....we supply and train the Georgian Army with counter terrorism training and associated equipment, not M1 tanks. They did however have a US trained artillery unit, in company strength, outfitted with US fire fighter radar, lasers etc etc. These guy's came in contact with your bullshit armor formations as you came strolling down the main highway early in the invasion and shitcanned almost a regiment of Russian junk before they went black on ammo and had to retreat. Less then 100 guys stopped your invasion for almost 24hrs.  Further if you watch the bombing of Tiblisi by the vaunted Russian airforce, it took them days, not hours,days to hit simple targets like water towers and radio stations. Your fucking military, though big, is a joke. The remains of the soviet military machine are all over Afghanistan...they have junk piles of crap everywhere. You can still go up near the Kuwait/Iraq border and see rusting soviet junk. It took us 100hrs to crush Russian supplied crap, with russian supplied doctrine. Your troops are nothing better then animals.

 Why so many words? Try invade Nigeria and then Russia! There is no difference because the weapons are in two places the same, both Russian! Right? We can put to death whole NATO machine, you're not NATO, you're just US! Your power might is the same to Georgia. There is no difference between Georgia and the US because both use this super high tech American weapon! It took us two days to shut Georgian mouth and you America couldn't have helped them.

 Your M1 tanks are irrelevant! lol hahahahahahah Show me what you got champion!

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2010, 11:00:15 PM »
That's grade A ownage right there.

Russian military = glorified third world

 You're blind!

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2010, 12:28:51 AM »
 The International Court of Justice in the Haque
 -Please speak Mr. Saakashvili!
 He can't - Americans!
 -Please sit down Mr. Saakashvili!
 He can't - Russians!


 

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2010, 12:04:25 PM »
I spent 3 months in Kosovo with your bullshit army attached to an Armor BN. Your idiots couldn't believe what my tanks could do....your shit is junk, always has been, there's just been alot of it.
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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2010, 12:10:33 PM »
Good to see you back headhunter!   

As for russian stuff, other than a standard ak 47, most of it is crappola.

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2010, 12:18:18 PM »
I spent 3 months in Kosovo with your bullshit army attached to an Armor BN. Your idiots couldn't believe what my tanks could do....your shit is junk, always has been, there's just been alot of it.

 Your tanks? Russian RPG 29 for 1 ruble annihilated your super tank for 1 billion $$$!


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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2010, 12:21:31 PM »
The RPG-29 Vampir (Vampire) is a Russian rocket-propelled grenade launcher. Developed during the 1980s, it is the most recent weapon of its type to be adopted by the Russian military. Its tandem-charge PG-29V warhead is capable of penetrating the frontal armor of modern tanks, by defeating anti-shaped-charge technology.

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2010, 12:21:55 PM »
I have a buddy who was a tank commander in kuwait and told me how awful thew russian crap was. 

Sure during WW2 the russians prpduced some great tanks compared to the sherman, but today, please, there is comparison at all.

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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2010, 12:29:00 PM »
I have a buddy who was a tank commander in kuwait and told me how awful thew russian crap was. 

Sure during WW2 the russians prpduced some great tanks compared to the sherman, but today, please, there is comparison at all.




 T 95 Russian tank, two times better than Abrams and two times cheaper
 

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2010, 12:53:33 PM »
Crap.....battle tested against whom. Who's gonna fix that junk heap...jesus it has reactive armor..that shit has never worked. Dude I'm an armor officer, your equipment is based on quantity and mass...the M1 was designed to be able to destroy 10 Russian tanks to ever one of ours.
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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2010, 01:04:07 PM »
Crap.....battle tested against whom. Who's gonna fix that junk heap...jesus it has reactive armor..that shit has never worked. Dude I'm an armor officer, your equipment is based on quantity and mass...the M1 was designed to be able to destroy 10 Russian tanks to ever one of ours.

You are an Armor officier and he's a vodka marinated uneducated troll who gets his info from a similar drinking buddy.


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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2010, 01:04:57 PM »
I avoided the board for over a year because of this, but this guy is a retard.
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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2010, 01:10:23 PM »
HH6 - what I try to explain to people is that the only reason we do not appear more dominant is because of pur reluctance to inflict collateral damage on people and that if we unleashed everything, we could steamroll anyone.

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2010, 03:11:40 PM »
Yeah...not a whole lot to bomb in Afghanistan..the Russians pretty much did and still lost. If you really look at what happened in 2008 and the incursion into Georgia, it illustrated how shitty the Russian military has become. There were some interesting things, the cyber attack etc...but conventional operations along with shitty equipment....they suck.
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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2010, 08:52:06 PM »
HH6 - what I try to explain to people is that the only reason we do not appear more dominant is because of pur reluctance to inflict collateral damage on people and that if we unleashed everything, we could steamroll anyone.

 You can't do shit, Russia and China will break your neck if you ever teach us how to live. BlackMerica and whorewell 2050! hahahahahahaah what a name

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2010, 07:41:29 AM »
T-72: On the Road to Obsolescence
Forecast International ^ | 12/16/2010 | D. Lockwood


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T-72: On the Road to Obsolescence ⋅

NEWTOWN, Conn. - New production of the T-72 main battle tank in the Russian Federation remains dormant. The Rosoboronexport organization continues to offer the remaining Russian T-72 tank inventory for export. All new T-72 production now involves only one licensed-production line. With the completion of the Iranian licensed-production programs, we expect no new T-72 production.

The T-72 enjoys wide distribution on the international market, with at least 36 nations currently maintaining various versions of the tank in their inventories. The modernization and retrofit packages available will ensure continued use of the T-72 throughout the next decade. The center of gravity for the T-72 program has clearly shifted to the development of various modernization and retrofit packages, many of which rationalize the T-72 with NATO MBT requirements.

However, T-72 modernization and retrofit programs will soon reach the point of diminishing returns, as they add sufficient cost to the bargain-basement T-72 to place it in direct competition with high-end MBT designs such as the Leopard 2 and M1A1 Abrams. At some point, the T-72 will clearly lose any advantage on the international market.

Since 1990, a number of modern main battle tanks have faced the acid test of combat; many more have yet to fire a shot in anger. When we evaluate a tank's performance in combat, we often find a tank radically different from the peacetime assessments. Perhaps the starkest illustration of this phenomenon involves the T-72. Throughout the last two decades of the Cold War, Western analysts considered the T-72 to be the primary threat in Europe. Indeed, U.S. and NATO doctrine and programs focused considerable attention on countering the T-72 threat.

Finally, in January 1991, U.S. M1A1 Abrams and British FV4034 Challenger tanks faced the vaunted T-72 in live combat for the first time, during Operation Desert Storm. After a mere 100 hours of ground combat, the reputation of the T-72 lay in ruins. The world learned that the T-72 - the erstwhile scourge of Europe - simply was not in the same league as the Abrams and the Challenger on the modern battlefield. During the opening phase of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Telic (the British component of OIF), the T-72 again found itself clearly overmatched by the M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams and the Challenger 2.

Across the deserts of Iraq, countless rusting, burnt-out T-72 hulks bear silent witness to the harsh realities of modern combat.

The Forecast International Weapons Group considers it unlikely that the T-72 will remain in production after 2012. While the T-72 will remain in service throughout the next decade, its days as a significant force in the international MBT market are clearly numbered.

Source: Forecast International Weapons Group

Associated URL: Forecastinternational.co m

Source Date: December 14, 2010

Author: D. Lockwood, Weapons Systems Analyst

Posted: 12/16/2010


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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2010, 07:46:24 AM »
Crap.....battle tested against whom. Who's gonna fix that junk heap...jesus it has reactive armor..that shit has never worked. Dude I'm an armor officer, your equipment is based on quantity and mass...the M1 was designed to be able to destroy 10 Russian tanks to ever one of ours.

Seemes you have your facts straight but that figures with your background

I would learn from you on this subject instead of trying to lecture you but people have different approaches to these things

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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2010, 08:43:00 AM »
T-72: On the Road to Obsolescence
Forecast International ^ | 12/16/2010 | D. Lockwood


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T-72: On the Road to Obsolescence ⋅


 T-72 during operation desert storm???? It's ancient. I don't know how they served it or whether it did work at all? Russian rpg 29 for 10 rubles destroys all American tanks for billions. Proof with the video is posted above!

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2010, 09:00:11 AM »


 With English subtitles, interesting! T 90 is better though, there are new tanks produced in Russia, interesting watch

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2010, 05:35:07 PM »
Russia are so far behind in strategic capability it hurts...its late and that's all I can be arsed to say about the matter.

p.s. good job Senate on signing new START, a step in right direction.

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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2010, 12:01:15 PM »
Russia are so far behind in strategic capability it hurts...its late and that's all I can be arsed to say about the matter.

p.s. good job Senate on signing new START, a step in right direction.

 No body can touch Russia, no body!



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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2010, 02:45:18 PM »
I had to stop when he said that we didn't use modern rounds during desert storm. First off most US tanks were firing 120MM main gun in 1991. Some tanks had 105's. We stopped fielding those in the mid 90's. The T-90 is a toy tank. The M1A2 SEP with a Tusker package weights over 70 Tons. The T90 may be a great tank...but you people don't do maintenance, can't conduct sustained combat operations and field poor soldiers. Read some of the biographies coming out of Chechniya...they're little better then animals. Our guys are issued top flight equipment. I can't believe your still using reactive armor.
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Re: New Russian missile to outwit any defense systems built before 2050
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2010, 04:30:01 PM »
I had to stop when he said that we didn't use modern rounds during desert storm. First off most US tanks were firing 120MM main gun in 1991. Some tanks had 105's. We stopped fielding those in the mid 90's. The T-90 is a toy tank. The M1A2 SEP with a Tusker package weights over 70 Tons. The T90 may be a great tank...but you people don't do maintenance, can't conduct sustained combat operations and field poor soldiers. Read some of the biographies coming out of Chechniya...they're little better then animals. Our guys are issued top flight equipment. I can't believe your still using reactive armor.
he's trolling HH...  He's on here to inflame Americans at any cost.  Even if you agree with him on something, the guy's next post is always pure bullshit bait.  I wouldn't take him serious.  For all we know this is some disgruntled 16 year old kid posting from France.