Would the GOP have been against entering WW2...

[whork25]

...because it would possible raise taxes?

[Hugo Chavez]

...because it would possible raise taxes?

They would not have been for raised taxes, but that's not why the people largely in both parties would have been against it.  Americans as a whole were largely against entering the war for a long time.  It took some tricky maneuvers and hefty propaganda to get us involved.

[Hugo Chavez]

333, just answer the guy's questions.  If you want to make a statement of it, answer the guys questions and then make your statement.

[GigantorX]

...because it would possible raise taxes?

The "GOP" back then was quite a bit different than the GOP that we see now, same goes for Democrats.

[Hugo Chavez]

The "GOP" back then was quite a bit different than the GOP that we see now, same goes for Democrats.

very true.

[Soul Crusher]

very true.

JFK would be considered a Tea Party Radical by todays' standards. 

[Hugo Chavez]

JFK would be considered a Tea Party Radical by todays' standards. 

but if here were president today with the same objectives, the right would have no problem finding things to attack him on.  In other areas of his presidency, you're right.

[Soul Crusher]

but if here were president today with the same objectives, the right would have no problem finding things to attack him on.  In other areas of his presidency, you're right.

That is how politics has always been, but can you have imagined if obama gave this speech? 

[whork25]

Taxes should be cut for middleclass and down. But giving the filthy rich tax cuts and believing it should help the economy? Sorry no dice. Thinking they would spend more is just stupid yhey already have a shit load of cash the tax cuts wont change that

[Soul Crusher]

Taxes should be cut for middleclass and down. But giving the filthy rich tax cuts and believing it should help the economy? Sorry no dice. Thinking they would spend more is just stupid yhey already have a shit load of cash the tax cuts wont change that

Raising taxes on small business owners who make 250k is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard of, well not really, "Hope & Change" in 2008, really takes the cake.   

[GigantorX]

Taxes should be cut for middleclass and down. But giving the filthy rich tax cuts and believing it should help the economy? Sorry no dice. Thinking they would spend more is just stupid yhey already have a shit load of cash the tax cuts wont change that

Dumb. Why should a very small part of the population shoulder any more than they already do? Why is it fair that 45% (and climbing) of the nation, at the end of the tax day, pay zero income tax and actually receive money back from the govt.? Why is that fair? Because they're "filthy rich"? The "filthy rich" pay half of the income taxes in this country, is that fair? Do you like having a completely unbalanced tax structure? Your reasoning is silly, shortsighted and shallow.

Just because someone makes more than you doesn't give you the right to demand more of their money be taken out of spite and some weird class warfare thing.

[whork25]

Are 45% of the population unemployed?

And no i dont have a problem with people who are much richer than the average Joe pays a little more

[Soul Crusher]

Are 45% of the population unemployed?

And no i dont have a problem with people who are much richer than the average Joe pays a little more

They already do.  How much more do you want?    50% is not enough between Fed, Local, FICA, etc?   

[whork25]

I want the Bush tax cuts for the rich discontinued we have a big deficit that must be fixed.

The tax cuts for the middleclass should be continued they need it, the rich doesnt

[Soul Crusher]

I want the Bush tax cuts for the rich discontinued we have a big deficit that must be fixed.

The tax cuts for the middleclass should be continued they need it, the rich doesnt

  

Please - just stop.   We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. 

[GigantorX]

They already do.  How much more do you want?    50% is not enough between Fed, Local, FICA, etc?   

This post shows that have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about.

[whork25]

  

Please - just stop.   We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. 

Doesnt matter we have a problem that needs fixing. Im not against lower taxes(who is?) but we are in a crisis.

[Soul Crusher]

This post shows that have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about.

? ? ? ? 

[whork25]

This post shows that have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about.

I though you and 333... agreed on everything

Or is it me you disagree with?

[GigantorX]

I want the Bush tax cuts for the rich discontinued we have a big deficit that must be fixed.

The tax cuts for the middleclass should be continued they need it, the rich doesnt

Deficits must be fixed? So the deficits will be all fixed up and good to go from 70 billion dollars of additional tax revenue per fiscal year? What will the govt. then do to take care of the other 1.43 trillion dollar part of the deficit? Tax the "filthy rich" up to 75%?

Who needs it isn't the question. Taxes as they are currently structured are totally fucked, unbalanced, unfair and anti-growth. The Class Warfare that many like to wage is a giant distraction and a huge red herring.

[GigantorX]

I want the Bush tax cuts for the rich discontinued we have a big deficit that must be fixed.

The tax cuts for the middleclass should be continued they need it, the rich doesnt

This is the post I meant to respond to! Sorry.

So let me repeat myself: Your post shows you have little understanding about that of which you speak.

[whork25]

Deficits must be fixed? So the deficits will be all fixed up and good to go from 70 billion dollars of additional tax revenue per fiscal year? What will the govt. then do to take care of the other 1.43 trillion dollar part of the deficit? Tax the "filthy rich" up to 75%?

Who needs it isn't the question. Taxes as they are currently structured are totally fucked, unbalanced, unfair and anti-growth. The Class Warfare that many like to wage is a giant distraction and a huge red herring.

1. No it will not fix the deficit but it will help

2. This is not class warfare this is common sence. The rich are rich they wont notice if they get a couple of less millions in on their account each year however the money can be used better elsewhere

[dario73]

1. No it will not fix the deficit but it will help

2. This is not class warfare this is common sence. The rich are rich they wont notice if they get a couple of less millions in on their account each year however the money can be used better elsewhere

No, it won't help because the government will find other stupid ways to irresponsibly spend the additional revenue from higher taxes. I.E. Obamacare, "shovel ready projects"..

It is class warfare. A couple of less millions? The way government throws away money it won't be long before even the filthy rich are forced to leave USA. To punish success even more is ridiculous. The answer is to have smaller government and reduce expenses by the government. Not to infinitely raise taxes on the wealthy.

[tonymctones]

LOL so whork what % of the tax burden do you think the rich should shoulder?

80% 90% shit why dont we just tax them 100%?

i mean lets not rail against govt spending and waste, yea youre right lets take more money away from ppl that earn it to fund more spending...

[MM2K]

1. No it will not fix the deficit but it will help

2. This is not class warfare this is common sence. The rich are rich they wont notice if they get a couple of less millions in on their account each year however the money can be used better elsewhere

Ok whork. Why dont we just tax all the billionares 100% and confiscate thier entire property? That would equal $1.4 trillion and would pay off this year's entire deficit.