Alistair Overeem Latest Fight! (VIDEO)

[FREAKgeek]

Fedor should avoid Overeem at all costs....he would get destroyed......His management will not let this fight happen...Fedor doesn't want it to happen either...

I don't know how he's able to pass his drug tests

[spinnis]

Oh and Swede if you fight frequently enough you don't need long protracted training camps all of the time, do you have any idea at how regularly the old school boxers used to fight.

there is a shitload if difference between training boxing 24/7 and mma. the risk for injury is at another level imo (Im assuming due to allt he groundwork and just a little thing goes wrong and something breaks/dislocated) just one takeone gone wrong and something cal break/dislocate and there goes your salery/bonus . So they need breaks after fights to heal up.

GSP for example trains 24/7 however, and is doing good. Some poeple never back of. but 5 mma fights in a year is kinda pushing it imo. 2 is good.

props to Duffe for taking it on such short notice (5 days or soemthing like that) but he had nothing to put against overreem at all.

[che]

there is a shitload if difference between training boxing 24/7 and mma. the risk for injury is at another level imo just one takeone gone wrong and something cal break/dislocate and there goes your salery/bonus . So they need breaks after fights to heal up.

Haha, you have not clue 

[spinnis]

Haha, you have not clue  

So you're saying its easier to get hurt standing up just boxing without kicks and TD's compared to wrestling for hours each day?

I would say mma is waay higher risk getting injured during sparring. Prove me wrong though if you can.....

[Jaime]

there is a shitload if difference between training boxing 24/7 and mma. the risk for injury is at another level imo just one takeone gone wrong and something cal break/dislocate and there goes your salery/bonus . So they need breaks after fights to heal up.

GSP for example trains 24/7 however, and it doing good. Some poeple never back of. but 5 mma fights in a year is kinda pushing it imo. 2 is good.

You would have to training with some real retards for them to be locking in subs. I grew up training judo and boxing, getting punched in the head consistently is a lot more damaging than grappling sparring. Remember this was back in the day when there used to be a shitload of infighting and fighting out of the clinch going on, so it was a lot more intense and they still had about 150 more fights than modern boxers.

[spinnis]

You would have to training with some real retards for them to be locking in subs. I grew up training judo and boxing, getting punched in the head consistently is a lot more damaging than grappling sparring. Remember this was back in the day when there used to be a shitload of infighting and fighting out of the clinch going on, so it was a lot more intense and they still had about 150 more fights than modern boxers.

have you seen how overreem spars? they go HARD, too hard.

And its just just subs, TD's etc, land the wrong after a TD way and something can easily happen..

No doudbt its Worse to take headshots though, but Im talkiing aboit injuries in the camp.. =)

Small injuries happends all the time but tearing quad, pulling any muscles hard, having something dislocate, breaking something, has to be alot "easier" to encounter during wrestling sparring no?

[che]

So you're saying its easier to get hurt standing up just boxing without kicks and TD's compared to wrestling for hours each day?

I would say mma is waay higher risk getting injured during sparring. Prove me wrong though if you can.....

Haha , like I said before you have not clue.

[spinnis]

Haha , like I said before you have not clue.

that answer proves alot?

You have no clue! see? that proved just as much.

Im willing to change my mind if Im wrong..

In one sport you stand Up without kicking, only "punches" and clinch
In the other sport you stand up,clinc,kick while standing,Take downs,wrestling,subs....

so... higher risk should be for mma during training no?

[che]

that answer proves alot?

You have no clue! see? that proved just as much.

Im willing to change my mind if Im wrong..

In one thing you can get hurt standing up.. in the other standing up And on the ground and on the way to the ground how can Only standing up be worse injury wise? =)

 I've been around fighters (MMA, boxers....etc ) my whole life I don't have to prove nothing to you  ,  you are just a mindless UFC guy

[spinnis]

I've been around fighters (MMA, boxers....etc ) my whole life I don't have to prove nothing to you  ,  you are just a mindless UFC guy

I was asking for an explination after putting up a argument and thats your response? not even claiming I was 100% even claiming I would be open to changing my mind if you could show me that I was wrong..  Good man you are.


"In one sport you stand Up without kicking, only "punches" and clinch
In the other sport you stand up,clinc,kick while standing,Take downs,wrestling,subs...."

[Jaime]

that answer proves alot?

You have no clue! see? that proved just as much.

Im willing to change my mind if Im wrong..

In one thing you can get hurt standing up.. in the other standing up And on the ground and on the way to the ground how can Only standing up be worse injury wise? =)

Because it's sparring and you are not going 100%. The differences are not so pronounced that mma guys should only fight two times a year lol.

You very rarely get muscle injury's with experienced grapplers, your body adapts. You are not locking in subs, so that's that out of the window. So it's just reduced to a stand up component basically.

Not forgetting the fact that guys like Dempsey, Johnson et cetera used to train grappling as well, as fighting out of the clinch and roughhouse tactics were a lot more prevelant back then.

Fighters from all combat sports should fight a lot more often. All of this 3 plus month training camp routine is a modern thing.

The guys used to fight so often that they didn't need training camps.

[Tee_rex65]

nice. seems like a good oponent for Alistair

never mind 

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spinnis]

You very rarely get muscle injury's with experienced grapplers, your body adapts. You are not locking in subs, so that's that out of the window. So it's just reduced to a stand up component basically.

hmm. I would say not even close to the truth. The people I have heard getting injuried in mma training, is Always druing a TD or some sort of transition when something pops. Wrestling sparring. And not going 100% ofc.

[che]

Because it's sparring and you are not going 100%. The differences are not so pronounced that mma guys should only fight two times a year lol.

You very rarely get muscle injury's with experienced grapplers, your body adapts. You are not locking in subs, so that's that out of the window. So it's just reduced to a stand up component basically.

Not forgetting the fact that guys like Dempsey, Johnson et cetera used to train grappling as well, as fighting out of the clinch and roughhouse tactics were a lot more prevelant back then.

Fighters from all combat sports should fight a lot more often. All of this 3 plus month training camp routine is a modern thing.

The guys used to fight so often that they didn't need training camps.

He has not clue about the difference between sparring/training and a real fight.

[spinnis]

He has not clue about the difference between sparring/training and a real fight.

Why would you claim such stupid things? are you mentally all there? too much boxing?

I have explained to you where I have seen / heard of most injuries taking place. And its NOT when going 100%  its simple easy everyuday Td's and transitions when you do something wrong too fast.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

But as I mentioned 500 times. thats all getbiggers do it seems like, Make up something the other person said and responding to it making yourself seem right.. over and over again.

[Wiggs]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol @ finish.

[Jaime]

hmm. I would say not even close to the truth. The people I have heard getting injuried in mma training, is Always druing a TD or some sort of transition when something pops.

Ok, in all my years training in Judo people getting injured was very sporadic. I actually still train judo to compliment my fitness in boxing, i don't percive it as tough on the body. You can speculate all you want Swede, but that's all it is on your part, speculation.

[spinnis]

Ok, in all my years training in Judo people getting injured was very sporadic. I actually still train judo to compliment my fitness in boxing, i don't percive it as tough on the body. You can speculate all you want Swede, but that's all it is on your part, speculation.

thats why Im open to being proved wrong.. Just more places where the sparring takes place = higher risk of injury.. makes sense in my mind.

[che]

Why would you claim such stupid things? are you mentally all there? too much boxing?

I have explained to you where I have seen / heard of most injuries taking place. And its NOT when going 100%  its simple easy everyuday Td's and transitions when you do something wrong too fast.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

But as I mentioned 500 times. thats all getbiggers do it seems like, Make up something the other person said and responding to it making yourself seem right.. over and over again.

Hahaa ,meltdown .

[spinnis]

Hahaa ,meltdown .

Did you get the pillows I bought you for xmas? 

[che]

Did you get the pillows I bought you for xmas? 

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[spinnis]

Pillows













































 

well after 324 rounds even a pillow hurts 

[Jaime]

thats why Im open to being proved wrong.. Just more places where the sparring takes place = higher risk of injury.. makes sense in my mind.

Sparring is sparring. The intensity is lower and the fact that you are not locking in subs properly really lessens the complications of grappling.

As i said the old school fighters used to train shoot wrestling and had a heavy focus on clinch fighting and they used to fight very frequently.

As i also said before, the more you fight the less you train. You don't have three month training camps if you are fighting with any sort of regularity.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

So you're saying its easier to get hurt standing up just boxing without kicks and TD's compared to wrestling for hours each day?

I would say mma is waay higher risk getting injured during sparring. Prove me wrong though if you can.....

saids the fella,,who claimed brock was GOD among boys in the octagon all oiled up touching each other,,,

[pellius]

Ok, in all my years training in Judo people getting injured was very sporadic. I actually still train judo to compliment my fitness in boxing, i don't percive it as tough on the body. You can speculate all you want Swede, but that's all it is on your part, speculation.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Was it Judo or Boxing that you think is harder on your body? In my experience, during training, the stand up game, punching and kicking, was the safest. I rarely got hurt doing stand up. But that's only because it's training and you pull your punches and kicks. Grappling/rolling was the second safest because with a submission you can take as little or as much punishment as you want. But Swede is right, at least in my case, that it's during the transitions where you run a greater risk for injury. Things get twisted, tweaked and popped. But for me the most dangerous was the take downs. When you are being thrown. It's hard to throw someone to the ground softly or shoot gently during the dynamics of the session. Judo to me was the worse because a lot of those throws really sends you up in the air. With wrestling you're always staying pretty low and getting toss over your opponent's hip isn't as common as with Judo. Of course, some people fall better than others.