Jay Cutler's xmas message to fans!

[MAXX]

I wonder how much Jay spends on gear every month  

anyone has an estimate? gh15?

[DroppingPlates]

I wonder how much Jay spends on gear every month  

anyone have a estimate? gh15?

Prob around 8,000 - 10,000

[GetItOnNY]

I know most of the pro bodybuilders get there testosterone from compound pharmacies.Because Testostereone therapy can be prescribed.
Once you use Testosterone from a compound pharmacy, you wont beleive the diffrence.Example I knew a guy who was using 1000mg of Oregon Susto 250, then went to a good compound pharmacy, and only needed 500mg of the same blend to get the same result.
A good American Compound pharmacy has the best testosterone.....Why you ask? Because most of the times it is made in small batches, and made by hand in a legit pharmaceutical clean room.Therefore, potency is pretty much excact.
Anything get made that is from a pharmacy I see if I can get it from a compounded pharmacy first, then if I have to I go to a normal Phamracy.
You can anything from a compound Pharmacy, Testosterone, Decca, T3,Pain releiving creams,Subutex,Suboxone,anti-inflamtory creams and gels.
The potencty is amazing.Half of the stuff, I have never used like T3 or Suboxone or Subutex, but the rest I have.
I know Jay gets most of his stuff compounded, to make sure its potent and clean.If you got a presciption for something, its legit, and it has to be pure.
Its not like Europe or Mexico, what you get, you get and your stuck with it.Compound Pharmacies are accurate and legit

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I haven't, lets see a link. Or at the least point me in the right direction to find it.
Totally weeping at the sight of his Ferrari, 4 Sandows, and 3 Arnold classic victorys, on top of other successes!. LOL WHEN HE could have been a mediocre dude with spoiled ass children!!! God damnit world how are you so cruel to Cutler! The poor guy. lol. Can't have shithead kids that have to live in a retarded world. What a shame. To give it all up for huge muscles and millions of dollars.... It's really too bad.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Jay, wouldnt be begging any girl.The guy has a Ferrari, and Phat ass Benz, plus he is an all american looking guy.Dude, the guy makes 2.5 million a year I am sure he can have any girl he wants.Girls can tell when a guy has bank.Jay isnt tool like Scoot Alexander, he is the real deal.
I could see it now Jay begging girls....Please get into my $125,000 Benz, or please get into my Ferrari, lol........
$ = girls $$$$$ means tons of girls.

Jay is constantly looking for attention. The video I posted above shows you how much he really needs.  He was truly eating it up with this fat blond Grenade. Was he just playing with her mind? Yes. Was it necessary?  Absolutely not. Any male who watches a man act like that and thinks it isn't fcked, has to be some kind of schmoe. Imagine if the same words that Jay said but coming out of Scott Alexander's mouth towards a woman. JAY CUTLER jumped the shark and how he acted in that Iceland video shows us that.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Jay, wouldnt be begging any girl.The guy has a Ferrari, and Phat ass Benz, plus he is an all american looking guy.Dude, the guy makes 2.5 million a year I am sure he can have any girl he wants.Girls can tell when a guy has bank.Jay isnt tool like Scoot Alexander, he is the real deal.
I could see it now Jay begging girls....Please get into my $125,000 Benz, or please get into my Ferrari, lol........
$ = girls $$$$$ means tons of girls.

Right. Because no self made millionaire couldn't possibly be insecure  We're gonna have to take the Schmoe alert with you down to Defcon 2. Any more hero worship will bring it down to Defcon 1. Don't do this Joshua. How about a nice game of tic tac toe.

[GetItOnNY]

If you watch the video closely he is actually mocking her stupidity.....Jay is lowering himself to her intelligence for a brief moment without making himself look stupid.Trust me Jay plays alot of mental games with people he just isnt as obvious or cocky as Arnold was.Then again Arnold was the Alpha Male of all Alpha Males.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

If you watch the video closely he is actually mocking her stupidity.....Jay is lowering himself to her intelligence for a brief moment without making himself look stupid.Trust me Jay plays alot of mental games with people he just isnt as obvious or cocky as Arnold was.Then again Arnold was the Alpha Male of all Alpha Males.

So your saying that Jay Cutler is a passive aggressive douche? hmmm(that might be worse bro)

[Parker]

So your saying that Jay Cutler is a passive aggressive douche? hmmm(that might be worse bro)

I'm kinda getting that feeling as well, I kinda suspected it for the past 8 or so yrs...

[gh15]

maybe gh15 has a point about Jay's GH - his face has changed so much sine he turned pro in 96 and even is pro debut in 98.

has there even been a bber whose face has changed so much?

i think jay gave phil health his connections. (in case you dont know, they became "friends" as phil was competing at the mr. colorado and jay was in attendance)

phil has gotta be one of the biggest users - started training at 23, pro at 25, and one of the best in the world by 30.

obvious great repsonse, but jay's connections + high dosages = phil's success.

phils not a bodubuilder,,he is more of a drug user that work out and respond well to them,,nto exactly the fella that actually would be good bodybuilder with out drug,jason on the other hand had base,,but rest assure my friends,,he was on lots ogf gh before turning profesional too lol

gh15 approved

[gh15]

GH15,I hate to inform you of this but most of the anabolics and kits dont come out of m a s s a c h u s e t s.....Wrong!!!
20 times more kits come out of New Jersey then m a s s a c h u s e t s.....Boston guys dont have alot,,,,,,, they used to.
If you know anything, you would know New Jersey has the highest rate per of millioniares, and tons of anabolica are passed through there.
You got alot of Key players in Jersey, will boat loads of money.......Kneller, Dente, Gaspari,Arntz,Bonham need I say more?
If you want to talk real big player, go up the the great white North Canada,jesus, we are talking up limited supplies.
Kis are like Candy in Canada.......

saying the natural clean 253lb of moutains of lean muscle,,,ok ok i dont knwo what im talking about,, where is that face with the rolling eyes i cant find itlol,,in anycase my good friend the biggest dealers in americana sit in ny and massachusets ,,nj is where the remailers sit lol and the guidos of the jersy girls....


trust me i know what im talkin about,,masachusets and ny !

gh15 approved

[phyxsius]

Jay is constantly looking for attention. The video I posted above shows you how much he really needs.  He was truly eating it up with this fat blond Grenade. Was he just playing with her mind? Yes. Was it necessary?  Absolutely not. Any male who watches a man act like that and thinks it isn't fcked, has to be some kind of schmoe. Imagine if the same words that Jay said but coming out of Scott Alexander's mouth towards a woman. JAY CUTLER jumped the shark and how he acted in that Iceland video shows us that.

you're an idiot

[DroppingPlates]

you're an idiot

No he's pretty much spot on about it

[GetItOnNY]

GH15, IT only took me 20 plus years to obtain this weight.I been training 27 years.That longer then most have been alive on this board.
Now about gear and where it comes from NY is big, but alot comes in NJ and NY......The heat has gotten hot in NY so I heard that there bringing it from NJ now...Its harder to get shipments in NY since 911, plus the NYPD is gotten smart to gear dealers.Its much easier in NJ to get shipmments.
I heard there is some really big players up in seattle area.You know that California, Florida,are also key players

[The Abdominal Snoman]

you're an idiot

And you're a Schmoe who is an importer/exporter wholesaler of soiled Lee Priest trunks

[Van_Bilderass]

I know most of the pro bodybuilders get there testosterone from compound pharmacies.Because Testostereone therapy can be prescribed.
Once you use Testosterone from a compound pharmacy, you wont beleive the diffrence.Example I knew a guy who was using 1000mg of Oregon Susto 250, then went to a good compound pharmacy, and only needed 500mg of the same blend to get the same result.
A good American Compound pharmacy has the best testosterone.....Why you ask? Because most of the times it is made in small batches, and made by hand in a legit pharmaceutical clean room.Therefore, potency is pretty much excact.
Anything get made that is from a pharmacy I see if I can get it from a compounded pharmacy first, then if I have to I go to a normal Phamracy.
You can anything from a compound Pharmacy, Testosterone, Decca, T3,Pain releiving creams,Subutex,Suboxone,anti-inflamtory creams and gels.
The potencty is amazing.Half of the stuff, I have never used like T3 or Suboxone or Subutex, but the rest I have.
I know Jay gets most of his stuff compounded, to make sure its potent and clean.If you got a presciption for something, its legit, and it has to be pure.
Its not like Europe or Mexico, what you get, you get and your stuck with it.Compound Pharmacies are accurate and legit

I don't have inside knowledge of the compounding pharmacies bodybuilders use. But I'm still confident of the following. A lot of compounding pharmacies use Chinese powders, the exact same stuff UG labs use. Same for some of the GH prescribed by "anti-aging" clinics - lots of Chinese generic of unknown potency. All this has been documented and has been reported by major news agencies after crackdowns. These clinics and compounding pharmacies also deal with non-approved hormones like trenbolone so you know you are basically dealing with an UG lab doing shady stuff, except the one doing the compounding knows more about proper procedure. The potency of the API is still in question I would think. Where would they legally get these hormones analyzed? I bet they don't for the most part, especially when talking of non-approved hormones.

Your friend who used Organon Sust (or Oregon as you always call it) used a fake product.

I would go with an American brand name androgen first, just like I would with GH or any drug. How would you explain the supposed difference in potency? Smaller batch doesn't mean more accurate dosing if we're talking about major pharma companies.

[GetItOnNY]

Van,You dont even live in the USA so how would you know ?.........I dont know where you got your information from but compound pharmacies have the most potent gear ..This is solid information.I know for a fact that pro bodybuilder get there anabolics from private small American compounds Pharmacies.I would rather a single Dr of Pharmacy making my gear then having it made in another country were you dont know god know who is making your stuff, or were there making it.
They have busted gear in other countries made by people in shacks.? So Van would you rather have a Dr of Pharmacy making every single batch himself in a clean room or your gear made in a shack in a foriegn country? The compound Pharmacies I know of use a Dr of Pharmacy to make there gear, in a licensed clean room.

[gh15]

Van,You dont even live in the USA so how would you know ?.........I dont know where you got your information from but compound pharmacies have the most potent gear ..This is solid information.I know for a fact that pro bodybuilder get there anabolics from private small American compounds Pharmacies.I would rather a single Dr of Pharmacy making my gear then having it made in another country were you dont know god know who is making your stuff, or were there making it.
They have busted gear in other countries made by people in shacks.? So Van would you rather have a Dr of Pharmacy making every single batch himself in a clean room or your gear made in a shack in a foriegn country? The compound Pharmacies I know of use a Dr of Pharmacy to make there gear, in a licensed clean room.

veyr very bad posting,,infact maybe the worst misleading posting of the new years and it only started check out the date!

compounding pharma in americna are complete and utter rubbish,,they are selctive scamer that work with china poweder with no regulation very similar to ug labs even the exact same way only they do it in an office and the ug lab do it in basment or apartment,,


in americana where its pupular mainly in flordia ,,since florida si so easy inregarding to hormonal usage and acceptance the compounding pharma bring many poweder from china and do it in florida and sell bunk to many many MANY PEOPLE,,ofcourse like you keep saying and they keep saying it is all real ,,but the reality of the matter my friend is that the same dantas behind legit companies,,  are the same scambgs behind those compounding facility and they SCAM PEOPLE,,gh15 have alreayd collection of complaints with actual vials from the compounding pharmas to demonstrate in court of law when the day come,,

getny be very careful with pushing it in because you will make damage to your business,, again compounding pharmas in americana since raw deal operation are very shady and very very careful with what they do ,,they do not in most cases deliver,,infact in most cases they do not ,,only to the conntected ones they do ,,the onws who can hurt them ,,but through a third party they always scam the individual,,

they are THE WORST CRIMINALS TODAY IN AMERICANA ,,AND I WILL MAKE SURE THEY SHUT THEM DOWN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF THEY DONT WISE UP,,

and thats! the truth!
gh15 approved

[gh15]

getny ,,not only you lie to thoe kidsabout your personal usage of hormone,,but you show a vast knowing of the subject which is ofcourse wrong,,but the only reason you seem to know it is due to your activity in the matter talked about,,again what you say is totally wrong,,they scam people on daily basis ,,, the peope behind them should sit in prison and do sit in prison ,,and i actually support the goverment in shutting them down and they did ,,the ones who operate need really be very very careful now,,because last year too many complaints got to gh15 and the complaints were attached to vials that were indeed tested and found out to be nothing but underdosed crap and intimes ONLY OIL

gh15 approved

[Van_Bilderass]

Van,You dont even live in the USA so how would you know ?.........I dont know where you got your information from but compound pharmacies have the most potent gear ..This is solid information.I know for a fact that pro bodybuilder get there anabolics from private small American compounds Pharmacies.I would rather a single Dr of Pharmacy making my gear then having it made in another country were you dont know god know who is making your stuff, or were there making it.
They have busted gear in other countries made by people in shacks.? So Van would you rather have a Dr of Pharmacy making every single batch himself in a clean room or your gear made in a shack in a foriegn country? The compound Pharmacies I know of use a Dr of Pharmacy to make there gear, in a licensed clean room.

How would I know? By reading the news!

And what foreign country? 

You said,

Anything get made that is from a pharmacy I see if I can get it from a compounded pharmacy first, then if I have to I go to a normal Phamracy.

Seems to me you're saying you would rather have compounded steroids than brand name US steroids. If so, then you are a fool. Tell me, would you rather use Oxandrin tablets than compounded oxandrolone from a clinic? Or compounded oxymetholone rather than US made Anadrol-50? Or compounded test rather than Sandoz or Watson testosterone or what have you? This is price aside, forget price, which would you choose?

Yes I'm sure pro bodybuilders are getting steroids from compounding pharmacies. That doesn't mean they aren't shady operations that work with Chinese powders. I could link to news articles where clinics have been busted that had pros as clients. And you know where they were getting the hormones? China! And when they are dealing with hormones such as tren you know it was no legit Chinese pharmaceutical company who brewed up the hormone but a chemical house - same shit the UG labs use!

And if the Organon Sust your friend used really was made by Organon then it wasn't made in no shack. If it was shit it was counterfeit!

[Van_Bilderass]

An example. These outfits had pro bodybuilders as clients. They were so legit they had to smuggle in the drugs.  

Pharmacy in earlier investigation alleged to be part of international smuggling network.


An Orlando pharmacy whose operators were snared nearly three years ago in an Albany County criminal probe has been implicated in an international network that federal authorities say smuggled human growth hormone from China to the United States, court records show.

The role of Florida's Signature Compounding Pharmacy in the distribution of human growth hormone is highlighted in a partially sealed federal criminal case in Rhode Island that was never announced by the Justice Department.

Signature's alleged role in the wider federal case comes as an appellate court in Albany is set to rule soon on whether state criminal charges against the pharmacy's operators should be reinstated here.

Signature pharmacy is identified in Effron's court papers by name and also as "pharmacy X." Two Florida physicians, Gary Brandwein and Claire Godfrey, who pleaded guilty to felony criminal charges in Albany related to prescriptions they wrote through Signature pharmacy, also are identified in Effron's criminal case.

The criminal charges against Effron detail his importing HGH from a Hong Kong company, GeneScience Pharmaceutical Co., whose founder, Lei Jin, was indicted on similar federal drug smuggling charges in Rhode Island two years ago. Jin pleaded not guilty and his case is pending.

"Pharmacy X was a licensed pharmacy located in Orlando, Florida," states an 18-page criminal information filed against Effron in June. "Pharmacy X contracted Effron to facilitate the smuggling of HGH from GPC in China to Florida."

Between 2004 and 2007 Effron, "acting on behalf of Pharmacy X," illegally imported more than $690,000 worth of HGH from China, court records show.
Effron and Lei Jin, who often used e-mails to discuss their importation of HGH, met at least three times in Orlando and China regarding their alleged conspiracy. "The owners of Pharmacy X were present during at least one of those meetings," prosecutors said in court filings.

Pharmacy X and Effron took steps to conceal the origin of the HGH that was being imported (from China) because they knew that HGH manufactured by GPC was not an approved drug, that it was on the FDA seizure list, and that, in any event, Effron was not a licensed wholesale drug distributor," prosecutors wrote in Effron's criminal information.

Mobile steroids trial nearing end; Applied Pharmacy charged with supplying star athletes.

It included doctors who agreed to write sham prescriptions and dealers who lured customers looking for shortcuts to buffed bodies, a federal prosecutor in Mobile told jurors during closing arguments in a steroids case today.

The lynchpin in the whole conspiracy, Assistant U.S. Attorney Donna Dobbins argued, was a compounding pharmacy in Mobile where owners reaped millions of dollars in profits by engaging in "illegal and far-reaching" conduct from 2003 until August 2006.

"Each one of them participated in this conspiracy," she said. "They operated a steroid mill, and they would dispense anabolic steroids to anyone whose credit card was good."

Dobbins reminded jurors of testimony that the company made millions of dollars by selling anabolic steroids -- including some that have been approved only for use in livestock -- to customers came from 41 states.

They ranged from star athletes like former major league baseball slugger Jose Canseco and Olympic gold medal wrestler Kurt Angle to teenagers. Dobbins pointed to testimony from a former employee suggesting that Applied Pharmacy's secretary and part owner, Jason R. Kelley, was well aware of the potential legal problems.

[WillGrant]

GH15 is incorrect.There are naturally big guys like myself.I have the symmetry of a brick, but I am genetically heavy.GH15 says no one can be over 200 lbs naturally , well I was 250lbs naturally.I am 250 lbs now, and I havent taken anything in 3 years.
Why is this? Well my wrists are 8 1/2" in diameter, my father who never lifted a weight in his life weighed 250lbs-270lbs most of his adult life.When I was 17 and first started training we meausred his biceps for fun and they were 17- 1/2" .He was just a husky, man who smoked beleive it or not for 50 years.
My grandfather another big man was 5'9" and 250-260 lbs, and was stocky, he never lifted a weight in his life.
So with this being said, I reached 250lbs without any hormones,On hormones reached 280-290lbs.No HGH on insulin.
Just Susto 1000mg, Tren 200mg and Primo 200mg per week.
GH15 you are right in most cases, but if you dont beleive me, I will take any drug test you can throw at me, I weigh 250lbs now, and do no hormones, or prohormones.It was in my genetics to weight 250lbs.My father did, my grandfather did, my uncles did.
I beleive Croatch is clean, he doesnt use anything.The guy wont even take a prohormone for gods sake.
GH15 is correct 90% of the guy, but he must understand there are men who have heavy bones and big relatives.
Genetics =how big you will get and how far you will go.

Yeah if you are fat , forget the scale weight chump..he says "lean" mass at certain height levels in the 5-8 % range , no doubt ypu did weigh that but looking like a fat powerlifter/

[Disgusted]

A lot of misinfo on here. First whether it's Watson test or compounded they are both exactly the same as long as the raw material was made in the US by a certified lab. Secondly there are very few brand name products left in the US. I believe that Deca even in generic form has been discontinued. Third, as far as I know the only esers that a compounded pharm can get unless they order from China which is not legal is cyp, enan, prop possibly acetate and of course suspension which is not an ester. There possibly could be more that this, but that is the bulk of them I'm sure. So if anyone is getting a sustanon type product then it's either not real or from China.

[Van_Bilderass]

A lot of misinfo on here. First whether it's Watson test or compounded they are both exactly the same as long as the raw material was made in the US by a certified lab. Secondly there are very few brand name products left in the US. I believe that Deca even in generic form has been discontinued. Third, as far as I know the only esers that a compounded pharm can get unless they order from China which is not legal is cyp, enan, prop possibly acetate and of course suspension which is not an ester. There possibly could be more that this, but that is the bulk of them I'm sure. So if anyone is getting a sustanon type product then it's either not real or from China.

Yes it's the same if procured through legit channels, whether compounded or brand name. And China makes 100% legit pharmaceuticals too so it doesn't have to be US made to be of the highest quality. But these clinics often aren't completely legit and resort to illegally importing drugs so it's not much different than any UG lab, except they have better facilities and knowledge in compounding the finished product.

Some do believe there's magic to certain brand name products. I know you have praised the Ciba dbol. Negma Parabolan is another. And Theramex Test Heptylate (enanthate). Supposedly much better than any generic no matter how legit.

[musclecenter]