If all the pros went drug free for a year, who would be the best?

[gh15]

phillip is actually a very very small guy,,he i sub gym rat when it comes to actual size due to horrid structure of the pectorial and calvicle area,,very equivelant of a girl that is 20 year old

greene is again a black palumbo with better over all result but same idea...

jason has solid muscle under the blub of shit he presents ,,he has about 50 lb of shit on him ,,somewhere at that zone,,he will maintain 220 for about 6-12 months ,,then if stop training for a bit which he will because no one train with out hormone in system ....he will be at 190 zone at 15% super fast,,,

all of this will never happen though,,those are addicts for life,,no hormones for them = death not because they wont be able to live ,,but because they wont be able to function normally in society ,,meaning its like crack addict ,,crack is very hard drug that addicition to never really stop ,,it usually take you to grave,,same with hormones but with out the severeity ,,they all complete dependent of hormones,,and will never stop again ,,

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[Wiggs]

phil would look like he never touched weight after 12 months off everything,,most likley 160 lb which is less than what he started with ,,absolitely no base what so ever ,,blow up doll with lots and lots of drugs into the fake muscle,,he would be last

jason would be 220 15% he would be the biggest and most likley will pull it well,,eventhough it would be like dorian look today to a lesser degree since jason is no dorian when it comes to solid muscle

greene  would be weird looking fella very similar to palumbo,,he will be maller than palumbo after 12 month with no hormones in system

so jason would still look better than both but look st the number im giving you here

2 2 0 / 15% after 12 months off hormone completely,,not even a lb over it and bf wont be even remotely close to singles

2 years and over being completly clean will take jason to where he truly belong 190 15%

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Assume they were preparing for a contest naturally...Jay's 220 at 15% won't cut it...Jay would be 201 @ 7% bf and that's assuming he didn't lose any muscle while dieting (which wouldn't happen)...If Jay were preparing for a show naturally after a year, 100% natural, no GH, no slin, no AAS and try to come in the same condition, 5-6% bf as natural, he would be 195 -200 at best.

[gh15]

Thought you said Jay was the worse 'O ever and that he was all GH.

he is ,,the gh gave him good 50lb on there of lean syntetic muscle,,it will go away the day he pull the plug out on needle ,,but he wont he is addict,,gh for him for life,,just the shame of showing in public 190 will prevent him from doing that,,and ofcourse....there is severe mental iue that will not let him do it ,,since the brain is the strongest part of human body ,,his brain will not allow him to do it due to the shame ,,trust me i been in thei for very long time,,its mental,,look atr dorian walking around 215,,he can tstop it he uses less but he know moment he is out of test and gh he is saying bye bye to life he wont be ab;e to function and will be 180lb like he was the few times he went off,,soft 180!

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[dj181]

Speaking of this topic, does anyone remember the "drug-free" show that the WBF put on in the early 90s? Mike Quinn and Aaron Baker looked especially bad.

[MORTALCOIL]

So what's exactly your take on this? See, I don't know shit about AAS but my idiotic guess would be that the one doing more (and for the longest time span) would suffer the biggest drawback. So would you think different if we speculate on two years clean? Would that change the facts? Considering that what Wiggs is saying is that those guys would still train (albeit not the same way).

[Firemuscle]

 If all the pros went drug free. Some getbigger or black dude off the street with good genetics would go on stage and dominate.

 Seriously.

[Wiggs]

If all the pros went drug free. Some getbigger or black dude off the street with good genetics would go on stage and dominate.

 Seriously.

Jamaica Village Mesomorph.

[gh15]

only thing you need to do is look at phillip pictures before hormones,,back at 17-18-19 well i dotn know exactly when he started but he started early ,,look into a picture of him befor estarting ,,thats how small he will be with OUT the muscle he had then because he will be off hormones hyptetically ....so the muscle he had then as base wont be able to maintain due to zero test production that will come back to normal slow...but at that time all muscle will be losee ,,similar to mr mustafa,,ofcourse the gh and insnulin size will be out the window within 6-12 months no matter what steroid he take,,yet he cant take even steroid since he is hypotetically CLEAN lol

so phillip will look wore,,fella like adonis will wipe the floor with him thats how sad it will be ,,he will oook like romano off juice lol will have some muscle shape remained but similar to kevin when kevin was 175 ,,only worse because kevin had foundation lol you get the idea....

greene just ruined his midsection for life,,he is mutant ,,but not cadavar mutant so he will shrink not like phillip shrink since he has more foundation but he will sit at a shrinkable size,,again he wont be able to be recognized


jason ....well he will look like a chubb chubb frat boy all american usa ,,very common around usa ,,go to sororitys i mean fraternities lol youll see them all over the place,,chunky with some bloofy look

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[Jaime]

Genetics rule it would be the same top guys as it is today.

All three are so structurally flawed that without the mass they would look below average.

[MORTALCOIL]

only thing you need to do is look at phillip pictures before hormones,,back at 17-18-19 well i dotn know exactly when he started but he started early ,,look into a picture of him befor estarting ,,thats how small he will be with OUT the muscle he had then because he will be off hormones hyptetically ....so the muscle he had then as base wont be able to maintain due to zero test production that will come back to normal slow...but at that time all muscle will be losee ,,similar to mr mustafa,,ofcourse the gh and insnulin size will be out the window within 6-12 months no matter what steroid he take,,yet he cant take even steroid since he is hypotetically CLEAN lol

so phillip will look wore,,fella like adonis will wipe the floor with him thats how sad it will be ,,he will oook like romano off juice lol will have some muscle shape remained but similar to kevin when kevin was 175 ,,only worse because kevin had foundation lol you get the idea....

greene just ruined his midsection for life,,he is mutant ,,but not cadavar mutant so he will shrink not like phillip shrink since he has more foundation but he will sit at a shrinkable size,,again he wont be able to be recognized


jason ....well he will look like a chubb chubb frat boy all american usa ,,very common around usa ,,go to sororitys i mean fraternities lol youll see them all over the place,,chunky with some bloofy look

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Your posts are getting better and better. This is actually funny. So which type of Bber (except those three already on the list) would you say that in Wiggs' hypotethical world suffer less from the withdrawal; let's name a few from different era: Zane, Haney, Arnold, Oliva, Robinson,Labrada, Levrone, Dorian, Ronnie of course (I'm not talking only potential but considering what their physique what at their peak and what they were using)?

[gh15]

all of them will look like shit with out hormone becsause the physiqe is built on hormones,,why do you think they are so quiet ,,why nto suing me through lawyers ? why not askin from ron knowing who gh15 is eventhough he dont know police could try track etc etc and actually few know who gh15 is,,you know why? because they are all drug addicts ,,they cant sue the truth ,,the past and present bodybuilder me included are SWIMING IN HORMONES,,the fact labrada was a shrimp want because he didnt hav emuscle it was because he was not crazy like liarpriest ....he was more sane and used less btu still used whatver needed to compete which was considered and still considered SWIMMING IN HORMONES,,

you cant see a smaller physiqe and think ohhh he is smaller he dont use what the other bigger use,,WRONG,,they use exact same ,,they are just smaller by nature,,shorter ,,little fellas,,

they would all look like shit on no hormone,,from arnold to labrada and inbetween ,,and indeed they looked like shit,,pull up pictures of arnold off since he was the only one who truly went off...look at him

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[g101]

bodybuilding is ALL DRUGS

no but's,if's,what's etc etc..

whoever disagrees with this statement is a LIAR

[PJim]

They would all look like a crock of shit, seriously. The transformation heavy drug use takes on your endocrine system in the long run is dire. They would have below-par test levels.

[Campeon Del Mundo]

  probably some black guy since they have natural physiques and are mostly
fast twitch muscle..

[Parker]

The answer would be Robby Robinson...

[che]

This guy

[leaky_frog]

This guy

QFT

[CalvinH]

Outing myself for posting in this thread


.....whoever didn't get discouraged and kept at it in the gym.

[DroppingPlates]

The answer would be Robby Robinson...

X2
Esp guys with a good V-taper & quality muscle come into play

[Alexander D]

Phil has less of a base than any of the three but the best shape.
Jay has the best genetics for size naturally.
Kai has the best base naturally.

Wiggs i bet i could eat more fried chicken than you.

[littleguns]

Darrem Charles would look the best!!

GH15, so are you all drugs? What would you be without the sauce? 180, 12%??

[Alex23]

phil would look like he never touched weight after 12 months off everything,,most likley 160 lb which is less than what he started with ,,absolitely no base what so ever ,,blow up doll with lots and lots of drugs into the fake muscle,,he would be last

jason would be 220 15% he would be the biggest and most likley will pull it well,,eventhough it would be like dorian look today to a lesser degree since jason is no dorian when it comes to solid muscle

greene  would be weird looking fella very similar to palumbo,,he will be maller than palumbo after 12 month with no hormones in system

so jason would still look better than both but look st the number im giving you here

2 2 0 / 15% after 12 months off hormone completely,,not even a lb over it and bf wont be even remotely close to singles

2 years and over being completly clean will take jason to where he truly belong 190 15%

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This.

[Rami]

I thought it would be Nasser.

300+ lbs year round, retired!


edit: WITH ABS!

[Wiggs]

I thought it would be Nasser.

300+ lbs year round, retired!

With abs.

[Nirvana]

uhh...ronnie