Author Topic: Greatest Rock Drummer of all time (Read 26877 times)

IrishMuscle84 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:42:19 PM »

This Video is from like 95 or 96...........Natural Born Drummer, makes me want to start playing again.

IrishMuscle84 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:47:11 PM »

Video from last year, playing at Guitar Center in New york. He goes on tour/plays the drums for JAY-Z.

IrishMuscle84 · « **Reply #52 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:53:56 PM »

another older vid from 95.........

LatsMcGee · « **Reply #53 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:49:07 AM »

Flo Mournier, Kevin Talley, Bran Dailor, Brandon Thomas, Dave Witte, these guys are all awesome.....

Naming a greatest drummer of all times is like naming the best anything of all time, too subjective,

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #54 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:12:25 AM »

My vote goes to Vinnie Paul!

Parker · « **Reply #55 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:27:12 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on December 27, 2010, 11:42:57 AM

Jazz sucks

Someone should come over there and beat you with a Donald Byrd album and then feed you the whole Duke Ellington catolog of his works

oh, and no mention of Chick Webb?

IndustryInsider · « **Reply #56 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:18:28 AM »

bradistani · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:20:30 AM »

Quote from: ManBearPig... on December 27, 2010, 10:29:49 AM

thread over, i'd love to plop my balls on one of the cymbals and have her take a few whacks.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #58 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:23:08 AM »

Quote from: Parker on December 28, 2010, 01:27:12 AM

Someone should come over there and beat you with a Donald Byrd album and then feed you the whole Duke Ellington catolog of his works

oh, and no mention of Chick Webb?

haha, I just hate it....some of the older stuff is ok, but damn it bores me to tears. bunch of guys blowing on horns to some timing that only they and 1% of the population understands.....but it's "cool" to like jazz, so whatever....

Nirvana · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:27:27 AM »

Quote from: no one on December 27, 2010, 09:25:47 PM

ok- serious question-

i love music. i can listen to and enjoy pretty much anything.

but i just don't 'get' jazz. at all. to me it just sounds like noise of the worst kind. what am i missing? it sounds just off and like racket. no offense to anyone who likes it, but wtf am i missing here?

most of it's improvised so yeah it can get boring. I never could listen to it. seems like theres no chord progression, just bass hitting notes all over the scale and a horn solo that gets monotonous.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #60 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:28:24 AM »

Quote from: Nirvana on December 28, 2010, 07:27:27 AM

most of it's improvised so yeah it can get boring. I never could listen to it. seems like theres no chord progression, just bass hitting notes all over the scale and a horn solo that gets monotonous.

x2

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #61 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:39:01 AM »

Quote from: no one on December 27, 2010, 09:25:47 PM

ok- serious question-

i love music. i can listen to and enjoy pretty much anything.

but i just don't 'get' jazz. at all. to me it just sounds like noise of the worst kind. what am i missing? it sounds just off and like racket. no offense to anyone who likes it, but wtf am i missing here?

X3

And like you said...i don't consider myself a simpelton when it comes to music, my taste is all over the map.

But Jazz just loses me, occasionally they will get into a sick groove.....or someone will crack of an ill solo.... and your like "oh yeah...i can dig this" but then they spin off into some weird noodling that you can't follow.

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #62 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:41:42 AM »

I've heard this too many times. Jazz is like most other complex musics, it demands a lot of attention and to listen to a lot of it to get into it. As simple as that. Nobody starts listening classical music with Schoenberg, Webern or Scelsi. You have to work your way through it. But when you're there, it one of the most exciting musics there is. To me, nobody has ever topped John Coltrane.

Parker · « **Reply #63 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:49:44 AM »

Quote from: no one on December 27, 2010, 09:25:47 PM

ok- serious question-

i love music. i can listen to and enjoy pretty much anything.

but i just don't 'get' jazz. at all. to me it just sounds like noise of the worst kind. what am i missing? it sounds just off and like racket. no offense to anyone who likes it, but wtf am i missing here?

What type of jazz are or have you listened to? Duke Ellington has a sick catalog...Donald Byrd, Coltrane---you can't go wrong with Coltrane.

Sometimes you just have to be in the mood, I've always gone by the "5 minutes" rule. I made up this rule, due to Go-Go music. That one who is not a Washington, DC native can only stand this music for 5 minutes, after that, it sounds like someone beating on pots and pans...
But, as I have matures, I have listened to what is underneath...especially with jazz...

Simply put, you or your musical mind hasn't matured yet. Afterall, Jazz was the Rock music of it's day, and no jazz would mean none of music that you listen to today---unless you listen to Classical or Folk music.

CalvinH · « **Reply #64 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:14:20 AM »

So many,couldn't name just one.

dj181 · « **Reply #65 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:16:40 AM »

You fellas who want to try and understand jazz music should read "Sonny's Blues" by James Baldwin

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #66 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:23:15 AM »

Quote from: Parker on December 28, 2010, 07:49:44 AM

What type of jazz are or have you listened to? Duke Ellington has a sick catalog...Donald Byrd, Coltrane---you can't go wrong with Coltrane.

Sometimes you just have to be in the mood, I've always gone by the "5 minutes" rule. I made up this rule, due to Go-Go music. That one who is not a Washington, DC native can only stand this music for 5 minutes, after that, it sounds like someone beating on pots and pans...
But, as I have matures, I have listened to what is underneath...especially with jazz...

Simply put, you or your musical mind hasn't matured yet. Afterall, Jazz was the Rock music of it's day, and no jazz would mean none of music that you listen to today---unless you listen to Classical or Folk music.

you got you facts wrong brother....rock mainly comes from the blues and R+B...although Music is ALL derivative.....Rock is not a linear offshoot of jazz. Progressive rock would be more like that, guys like Jeff Beck pioneered the jazz-rock fusion in the early 70's....that kinda morphed into the Prog-Rock stuff

Not being defensive here, but my "musical mind" is quite mature...i just think Jazz is pretentious noodling and i can't be bothered...I love Classical on the other hand

dj181 · « **Reply #67 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:31:48 AM »

Pink Floyd=prog rock at it's finest

And yeah, rock was born from da blues

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #68 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:37:58 AM »

Quote from: Groink on December 28, 2010, 08:23:15 AM

you got you facts wrong brother....rock mainly comes from the blues and R+B...although Music is ALL derivative.....Rock is not a linear offshoot of jazz. Progressive rock would be more like that, guys like Jeff Beck pioneered the jazz-rock fusion in the early 70's....that kinda morphed into the Prog-Rock stuff

Not being defensive here, but my "musical mind" is quite mature...i just think Jazz is pretentious noodling and i can't be bothered...I love Classical on the other hand

Totally wrong. Jeff Beck didn't pioneer shit, you don't seem to know shit about the history of this music. Jeff Beck's "jazz-rock" recordings, mainly "Wired" and "Blow by Blow" are from 1975, prog-rock existed already with bands like King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator, Genesis, Yes since 1968/1969. The first jazz-rock records are generally considered to be Miles' "In A Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew" which are from 69 and 70 followed by his offsprings Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Return To Forever, Hancocks' Mwandishi and Headhunters which all started recording circa 1970.

Parker · « **Reply #69 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:48:16 AM »

Quote from: Groink on December 28, 2010, 08:23:15 AM

you got you facts wrong brother....rock mainly comes from the blues and R+B...although Music is ALL derivative.....Rock is not a linear offshoot of jazz. Progressive rock would be more like that, guys like Jeff Beck pioneered the jazz-rock fusion in the early 70's....that kinda morphed into the Prog-Rock stuff

Not being defensive here, but my "musical mind" is quite mature...i just think Jazz is pretentious noodling and i can't be bothered...I love Classical on the other hand

I was simplifying it...Jazz is basically the father (or mother) of them all.

I wasn't really talking about your musical mind, per se, and I had to grow, I grew up playing the cello, so most of the music I played, I listened to besides Hip-Hop and R&B...but, when I would listen to Classical music (when not playing it) I would get bored, or fall asleep after 5 minutes (hence the 5 minute rule).

Before I couldn't really get into Jazz, maybe except the big bands, but listening to Dinah Washington, or Shoo Fly Pie by D. Shore, I like it, or the expressive nature of Coltrane's works, it took for me to mature as a person for me to understand it, that is what it took for me. But, it was due to my musical tastes understanding the underlying themes and melodies of Jazz music. when Guru had his Jazzmatazz albums in the early to mid 90's (mixing Hip-hop with Jazz) or Tribe Called Quest sampling tons of Jazz songs, did I not really get it, just some cool beats to me...

And actually, I was just listening to Jose James' "Park Bench People". I'll say this, if more young people got into Jazz, there would be less of them on the streets or in the UFC, and they would actually learn something...

And yes, even now, depending on my mood, the 5 min rule still can be applied, to any form of music...you try listening to Soca for more than 5 minutes...

CalvinH · « **Reply #70 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:49:06 AM »

Steve Alford was a better drummer for Guns n Roses then Matt Sornum was.

dj181 · « **Reply #71 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:52:39 AM »

Oh fuck! How could I forget about Juthro Tull... Now dat is Prog Rock fellas

Nirvana · « **Reply #72 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:29:30 AM »

Quote from: MORTALCOIL on December 28, 2010, 07:41:42 AM

I've heard this too many times. Jazz is like most other complex musics, it demands a lot of attention and to listen to a lot of it to get into it. As simple as that. Nobody starts listening classical music with Schoenberg, Webern or Scelsi. You have to work your way through it. But when you're there, it one of the most exciting musics there is. To me, nobody has ever topped John Coltrane.

mozart's music took listening skill, and usually only the one playing it really can appreciate. Bach's music must be thought about.

but let's be realistic, listening to those guys was like hearing a cat walking on a piano. There's no "listening" to it, it's just chromatic sludge. the tones were divided into scales for a reason. ignoring the scales and atonality just kinda goes against music.

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #73 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:33:02 AM »

Quote from: Nirvana on December 28, 2010, 09:29:30 AM

mozart's music took listening skill, and usually only the one playing it really can appreciate. Bach's music must be thought about.

but let's be realistic, listening to those guys was like hearing a cat walking on a piano. There's no "listening" to it, it's just chromatic sludge. the tones were divided into scales for a reason. ignoring the scales and atonality just kinda goes against music.

Many musics are not exactly familiar with the concept of tones, you realize that. Though there would be a tonal center of sorts and even scales but the division of tonality is a western concept.

Nirvana · « **Reply #74 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:40:32 AM »

Quote from: MORTALCOIL on December 28, 2010, 09:33:02 AM

Many musics are not exactly familiar with the concept of tones, you realize that. Though there would be a tonal center of sorts and even scales but the division of tonality is a western concept.

that's why western music is most studied and glorified.

atonal takes a lot of thought. but you can produce the same results with no thought.

that's my beef with atonal.