Burke vs Wheeler

[Royalty]

Which pic is the most impressive? I know Flex was the more successful competitor. But which pic here jumps out more...?

[mass243]

Flex.

Look at that shape! Man, it might never be duplicated...

[MORTALCOIL]

Burke had the wow factor on that pic but Flex had the proportions and symmetry. His overall balance was much better.

[GWAR]

bork had a funny waste

[JasonH]

I think we'd all rather look like Wheeler than Burke somehow.

[Meso_z]

Burke would be more impressive in real life because of his WIDTH, dude was as wide as a kiosk.

[Immortal_Technique]

Do both have fake calves? Orville seemingly never used it in his arms like Flex, but maybe in his delts!?

Orville had a rear lat spread which Flex never did. Orville had horrendous aesthetics.

[GWAR]

Burke would be more impressive in real life because of his WIDTH, dude was as wide as a kiosk.

he had high lats a weird torso

[Immortal_Technique]

Odorus Urungous would agree.

[wes]

I saw Orville at a contest I did  in Connecticut one year and he had the most insane back I ever saw to this day.

[Parker]

Do both have fake calves? Orville seemingly never used it in his arms like Flex, but maybe in his delts!?

Orville had a rear lat spread which Flex never did. Orville had horrendous aesthetics.

That pic of Flex is from 1993, the Ironman, which he was heavier than his Arnold condition. The only thing he was puttig in his delts (and possibly calves) at the time was escilene, which Levrone was using.

Burke's high lats gave a illusion of width, I forgot, but his back detail was not as good. He also had the "thick skin", which meant it was harder for him to come in condition...

[spinnis]

Burke By far.

[Shockwave]

Flex by far.
Burke has a very whack looking torso, those high lats really detract from his flow IMHO.

[NeoSeminole]

Burke's high lats gave a illusion of width

it wasn't an illusion

[Parker]

it wasn't an illusion

Ahhh, but you put a pic of Flex when he was 214 pounds and so called "natural"... This was his last Olympia...I have the video in which Flex was prepping for it...he looked noticably smaller...and he was never known for his width...as I stated before, the high lats give a illusion of width, because of the "missing" space, he was wider than Flex, but who wasn't...but he was not wider than Ronnie, Nor Levrone, Dorian, or even Chris Cormier (I believe)...
Flex wins in terms of shape, size and round muscle bellies, Orville wins the freak round...

I often think his high lats were due to his youth in which he states that he would always be doing pullups...like Ronnie had stated in his youth all he would do is bicep curls before going to bed.

[French]

Burke by far.

[mesmorph78]

it wasn't an illusion

no way in this universe should flex have beaten orville that show

[Nirvana]

I liked Burke. just like Fux, strange but huge.





































actually I lied.  I just never liked flex

[Parker]

no way in this universe should flex have beaten orville that show

Shape went to Flex, size and freakiness went to the Jamaican...
But, what is odd, is Flex was 9th back in 1995, and his shape and conditioning in that show, would have won him a Mr. O today...same with Burke...

[mesmorph78]

Flex is vastly superior IMO
but that year when flex was sick and said he was going in natural he should have never beat orville or even place top 12

[NarcissisticDeity]

That pic of Flex is from 1993, the Ironman, which he was heavier than his Arnold condition. The only thing he was puttig in his delts (and possibly calves) at the time was escilene, which Levrone was using.

Burke's high lats gave a illusion of width, I forgot, but his back detail was not as good. He also had the "thick skin", which meant it was harder for him to come in condition...

No illusion he was the widest , I think it was the 02 Olympia in the write-up said Orville was the widest guy on-stage

[Parker]

No illusion he was the widest , I think it was the 02 Olympia in the write-up said Orville was the widest guy on-stage

ND, I have stopped reading those write ups, especially if they want to spin things to sway others...I will always remember Johnny Fitness' write up on one of the Arnold's that Jay won...He said thar Jay had a better back than Chris Cormier, and on the same page, there was a BDB shot, and you could clearly see Cormier winning that shot...all day long...after that, I stopped believing the contest write ups...

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, I have stopped reading those write ups, especially if they want to spin things to sway others...I will always remember Johnny Fitness' write up on one of the Arnold's that Jay won...He said thar Jay had a better back than Chris Cormier, and on the same page, there was a BDB shot, and you could clearly see Cormier winning that shot...all day long...after that, I stopped believing the contest write ups...

Well he was a hack and Flex had a hard-on for Jay saying the only two guys in history who could beat him in a back shit were Ronnie & Dorian  

but Burke was wide as fuck , had super-wide clavicles to boot

[Royalty]

well, here is Gunter and Burke during prejudging at the '02 olympia.

Gunter clearly is the heavier bodybuilder, but Burke wins the pose.

[Parker]

Well he was a hack and Flex had a hard-on for Jay saying the only two guys in history who could beat him in a back shit were Ronnie & Dorian  

but Burke was wide as fuck , had super-wide clavicles to boot

Yeah, I agree, I'm not saying he wasn't wide, he was very wide, it's just he seems more of an illusion, I guess maybe I think it's his flow? It's something I cannot put my finger on, just something ain't right, and it has to do with his high lats...he's more like a bigger version Dexter Jackson, without the conditioning.