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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2010, 08:06:25 AM »
How often do you ever hear or see overage of Sergio, Serge Nubret, Even Lou in mags?...Barely...It's always Arnold on the covers of mags, with article after article (mostly to sell the mags) what this does is artificially inflate his legendary status and diminishes the other greats...Sergio was better than Arnold...Period...No racism involved...
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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2010, 08:10:15 AM »
Overated..I thought you were objective enough not to fall into the typical "No white bodybuilder can be great" that your fellow predictable non-caucasians espouse. Please produce one pic of a bodybuilder from the 70's (this shot's from 74) that beats this. I can assure you, it doesn't exist. The 1973-74 versions of Arnold destroyed anyone in that time period.


x2. No one beat Arnold's physique in 73-74 up until Haney came along in 84.

Overrated my ass.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2010, 08:10:19 AM »
How often do you ever hear or see overage of Sergio, Serge Nubret, Even Lou in mags?...Barely...It's always Arnold on the covers of mags, with article after article (mostly to sell the mags) what this does is artificially inflate his legendary status and diminishes the other greats...Sergio was better than Arnold...Period...No racism involved...
I dont agree here, Oliva was always soft, rarely in condition, and although he was an awesome freak, I dont see him as having better symmetry or proportion than Ahhhnnooollldddd.
I dont know, seems like Oliva was as much all arms as Ahhnooolld was all bi's and chest.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2010, 08:11:38 AM »
x2. No one beat Arnold's physique in 73-74 up until Haney came along in 84.

Overrated my ass.


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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2010, 08:12:26 AM »
Sergio better than Arnold? What a nice joke.

Sergio at his absolute best in 1972 got beat by Arnold who wasn't at his best. Imagine a 73-74 Arnold vs Sergio.....

Not to take anything away from Sergio, he was great and one of the best too, but Arnold had no match.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2010, 08:14:19 AM »


He was narrow and looked small next to Arnold if I remember correctly. Been a long time since Ive seen side by side pics, but if memory serves, arnold was literally twice as wide as Nubret.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2010, 08:15:14 AM »


I love Nubret as well. He has a beautiful physique..but his lats, thighs, calves and overall back were fairly weak. That's why you don't see too many back double bi shots or rear lat spread photos.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2010, 08:15:30 AM »
Nubret was another one of the great bbs of the golden years and he looks outstanding in that photo, but put him next to Arnold and he gets beat...look what happened in 1975.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 08:16:17 AM »
He was narrow and looked small next to Arnold if I remember correctly. Been a long time since Ive seen side by side pics, but if memory serves, arnold was literally twice as wide as Nubret.


Nah, Serge wasn't wide but he wasn't narrow either. He had better shape, better structure, smaller waist, better balance.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2010, 08:18:06 AM »
How often do you ever hear or see overage of Sergio, Serge Nubret, Even Lou in mags?...Barely...It's always Arnold on the covers of mags, with article after article (mostly to sell the mags) what this does is artificially inflate his legendary status and diminishes the other greats...Sergio was better than Arnold...Period...No racism involved...
Sergio's problem was he always competed in Cutleresque conditioning.
He also resisted playing the "game."

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2010, 08:18:57 AM »
I don't want to get into a Ronnie vs. Dorian type argument...My mind won't be changed...sorry fellas.
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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2010, 08:23:01 AM »

Nah, Serge wasn't wide but he wasn't narrow either. He had better shape, better structure, smaller waist, better balance.


Show pics of all the mandatories.
You hardly ever see serge doing any poses except his custom poses, its cause when he hits mandatories, all his flaws get exposed.
I love Nubret, in fact, if I could look like 1 BB it would probably be Nubret. But he just couldnt ever beat Arnold in his prime.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2010, 08:26:45 AM »
I don't want to get into a Ronnie vs. Dorian type argument...My mind won't be changed...sorry fellas.

That's ok.

Ps: Ronnie is better.  ;D

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2010, 08:30:25 AM »
That's ok.

Ps: Ronnie is better.  ;D
Im cool with that too.

PS Dorian is better.  ;D

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2010, 08:44:54 AM »
Anyone that thinks Arnold is comparable to Sergio is clearly not being subjective.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2010, 08:46:36 AM »
thats not arnold

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2010, 08:51:25 AM »


time for some reality check ni99as



king arnold owning all your black asses,  now shut up bitches

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2010, 08:52:00 AM »
Anyone that thinks Arnold is comparable to Sergio is clearly not being subjective.


???
Dude never came in shape. Clearly YOURE not being objective, Arnold was bigger, and actually came IN SHAPE. You know, that thing in which contests are won and lost?

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2010, 09:06:01 AM »
Anyone that thinks Arnold is comparable to Sergio is clearly not being subjective.



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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2010, 09:32:08 AM »
hhahahahaha inconceivable faggotry.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2010, 09:51:06 AM »
Arnold's waist was as wide as his sloppy shoulders, no dice. He looked like nothing off gear, at least Sergio would still have the skeletal structure at worst.
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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2010, 10:06:03 AM »
Serge only looked good with his arms down, hence 99% of pics of him are the same arms down slightly side-on pose.
Sergio was a freak but unrefined. Arms like a pair of hams and no posing ability whatsoever. Sergio at his biggest in shape weight was 222lbs at 5 ft 10. His tiny head made him look bigger when standing alone.

As can be seen in the abover shot, Arnold made the pair of them look like tiny tits.
Serge and Sergio are therefore the most overrated bodybuilders ever.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2010, 10:08:55 AM »
Great criteria you have there. Same reason why Jay and Dorian win. Lou dwarfed Arnold guess he is the better bodybuilder.


Arnold just doesn't have the structure.
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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2010, 10:09:10 AM »
Arnold's back was decent but both Sergio and Serge were on par with him, actually Sergio's back was better. Let's no talk about Arnold's legs which were only decent in 74 and 75. Sergio got screwed in 72 and everybody knows the story about Serge in 73. I can see why people would prefer Arnold but he wasn't as dominant as people want him to be.He was Weider's boy, that's it.

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Re: perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2010, 10:12:47 AM »
Great criteria you have there. Same reason why Jay and Dorian win. Lou dwarfed Arnold guess he is the better bodybuilder.


Arnold just doesn't have the structure.
Youre actually tried to make the argument a post up that Sergio is better because hed look better off gear. Yeah, youre criteria is great.  ::)
Great structure doesnt win comps. Period end of story. It might help, but when youre smaller and in inferior condition, youre going to lose.
You like Sergio, we get it, but you are the one not being objective, not us.