FatPanda!!!!!!!! Calling you out!!!!!!!!!

[Meso_z]

i am sure my friend "muscular panda" will shut a lot of tiny tits mouths forever when he finishes his diet program and revert to us in a great shape

He will NEVER be in "great shape"...he will lose a lot of pounds if he continues like thiis but in the end he will still look like shit.loose skin, unhealthy from junk food, no muscle tone etc etc etc..

Noy trying to sound like an asshole but thats the way it is.

[WYSIWYG]

i am sure my friend "muscular panda" will shut a lot of tiny tits mouths forever when he finishes his diet program and revert to us in a great shape

Wrong, it's if he keeps off and improves after a year or two

[DK II]

He will NEVER be in "great shape"...he will lose a lot of pounds if he continues like thiis but in the end he will still look like shit.loose skin, unhealthy from junk food, no muscle tone etc etc etc..

Noy trying to sound like an asshole but thats the way it is.

qft.

[Meso_z]

qft.

he should better get a real gym membership and start a low to med carb diet. he will look "great"

Clean most of the time PLUS he can still use his stupid principles - eat "junk" while watching his cals, then return to clean eating.
for example when hes sick of eating egwhites and oats he could replace those cals with a kitkat, then continue his diet.

 His entirely "candy" diet is a disaster.

[DK II]

he should better get a real gym membership and start a low to med carb diet. he will look "great"

Clean most of the time PLUS he can still use his stupid principles - eat "junk" while watching his cals, then return to clean eating.
for example when hes sick of eating egwhites and oats he could replace those cals with a kitkat, then continue his diet.

 His entirely "candy" diet is a disaster.

He will never look great unless he takes 2-3 years to lean down and has exceptionally good skin. Otherwise he'll need surgery for the flabs.

But you're right about the diet and the gym, results would be much better.

[w8m8]

His limbs are leaning out at a faster rate than the rest of him and his skin won't ever be tight around his lower stomach ... he's going to have a fat flap hanging from his lower gut because he's not worried abut firming up anything nor trying to build any muscle .. he's just ecstatic now to see the weight come off .. skinny fat may be his only end result and I'll bet he'll still be here bragging about "his" methods working ... while still looking like crap .. then he'll begin a new plan to turn into contest worthy 

[DK II]

His limbs are leaning out at a faster rate than the rest of him and his skin won't ever be tight around his lower stomach ... he's going to have a fat flap hanging from his lower gut because he's not worried abut firming up anything nor trying to build any muscle .. he's just ecstatic now to see the weight come off .. skinny fat may be his only end result and I'll bet he'll still be here bragging about "his" methods working ... while still looking like crap .. then he'll begin a new plan to turn into contest worthy 

You always lose fat from outside-in, last place is abs and lower back, on his diet and training he will have no muscles left when he comes to the point of losing fat on his torso.

[dr.chimps]

His limbs are leaning out at a faster rate than the rest of him and his skin won't ever be tight around his lower stomach ... he's going to have a fat flap hanging from his lower gut because he's not worried abut firming up anything nor trying to build any muscle .. he's just ecstatic now to see the weight come off .. skinny fat may be his only end result and I'll bet he'll still be here bragging about "his" methods working ... while still looking like crap .. then he'll begin a new plan to turn into contest worthy 

You give him too much credit. He was a fat man, and after his weight loss, he will revert to form. He's the avatar of moral turpitude. Poor fucker will die without ever doing one chin-up.

[w8m8]

You always lose fat from outside-in, last place is abs and lower back, on his diet and training he will have no muscles left when he comes to the point of losing fat on his torso.

He's not putting in any effort to build and retain a bit of muscle anywhere .... I don't get it ... not even concentrating on using movements to lose the fat around his middle so he doesn't look so mishapen .. cut down your mid section and build up your limbs is what I'd like to see .. but he's focused on the scale readout and as long as he can justify his poor behaviour with the numbers going down he wants others to think he's doing right 

You give him too much credit. He was a fat man, and after his weight loss, he will revert to form. He's the avatar of moral turpitude. Poor fucker will die without ever doing one chin-up.

You are right .. but I'm trying to be nice for the New Year 

[dr.chimps]

You are right .. but I'm trying to be nice for the New Year 

Me too. I edited that post 2x to be polite(r).   

[Fallsview]

Me too. I edited that post 2x to be polite(r).   

Dr. Chimps, are you on board with STAYING POSITIVE in the New Year?



STAY POSITIVE-CATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dj181]

I agree avec disco here, get in a proper warm-up, and then hit a heavy work set or two. And w8m8, there is no such thing as spot reduction.

[Hulkotron]

Are there recent pics of Fatpanda and his progress?

[Fatpanda]

first of all chaos you are stupid ugly c-u-n-t.

now that that is out of the way i will take the time to address your posts.

in the positive board i typed out a lengthy post explaining what pyramids were the least effective for strength and hypertrophy (very similar to what disco stu said) which you decided to delete because you were being made to look like an idiot again - so fuck you homo.

every single study i post here is ignored, misunderstood, or ignorantly debated - especially by the usual steroid crew that live and die by broscience. claiming studies are bullshit because i look bad (retarded beyond belief) - yet they refuse to post their own pic proving their broscience is right

i have already posted more than enough proof that a calorie is a calorie. The fact that you don't seem to know anything about this just highlights how utterly intellectually challenged you are.

I'll tell you what you ugly inbred peasant why don't you post proof that a calorie is not a calorie (only metabolic ward studies are relevant of course - as they keep all variables to a minimum as I'm sure you know    )also post proof that pyramid training is the best for hypertrophy and strength ( remember I'm not talking about warm up sets to a max all out set )

in fact to all the big talker/guru's on this site i will challenge anyone on this site to post proof that pyramids are the most effective for strength and hypertrophy, and that a calorie is not a calorie.

Stop your yapping at my heels, prove you have a brain or shut the fuck up.

don't worry i wont hold my breath waiting.

[w8m8]

w8m8, there is no such thing as spot reduction.

So ab and core work wouldn't help reduce a large midsection ? OK thanks 

[Fatpanda]

So ab and core work wouldn't help reduce a large midsection ? OK thanks 

NO it would thicken it 

unbelievable

[che]

- yet they refuse to post their own pic proving their broscience is right

Hahaa

[Shockwave]

first of all chaos you are stupid ugly c-u-n-t.

now that that is out of the way i will take the time to address your posts.

in the positive board i typed out a lengthy post explaining what pyramids were the least effective for strength and hypertrophy (very similar to what disco stu said) which you decided to delete because you were being made to look like an idiot again - so fuck you homo.

every single study i post here is ignored, misunderstood, or ignorantly debated - especially by the usual steroid crew that live and die by broscience. claiming studies are bullshit because i look bad (retarded beyond belief) - yet they refuse to post their own pic proving their broscience is right

i have already posted more than enough proof that a calorie is a calorie. The fact that you don't seem to know anything about this just highlights how utterly intellectually challenged you are.

I'll tell you what you ugly inbred peasant why don't you post proof that a calorie is not a calorie (only metabolic ward studies are relevant of course - as they keep all variables to a minimum as I'm sure you know    )also post proof that pyramid training is the best for hypertrophy and strength ( remember I'm not talking about warm up sets to a max all out set )

in fact to all the big talker/guru's on this site i will challenge anyone on this site to post proof that pyramids are the most effective for strength and hypertrophy, and that a calorie is not a calorie.

Stop your yapping at my heels, prove you have a brain or shut the fuck up.

don't worry i wont hold my breath waiting.

So basically rather than posting your studies (which is all he asked), youre turning it around and instead telling him to prove you wrong (which he shouldnt have to, as youre the one telling all of us about these studies.)

BUT, you are not giving him any room to work, as you will accept nothing less than the same controlled scientific studies that (since you know they agree with you) Youre basically telling him, prove me wrong BUT YOU CAN ONLY USE THE  SOURCES I GIVE YOU (which just happens to agree with me)., which is stupid, as Science has yet to create a single person that even looks like a bodybuilder.  

And dont give us that "steroid user" crap, as you have admitted to using and are the complete tard that says that GH does NOTHING for muscle mass. Even if if doesnt directly add muscle mass, it does something, seeing as how the physiques of the 90's (when GH became readily used) skyrocketed in weight. So again, real world results fly in the face of your case studies.

My thing is, when Im trying to learn how to do something, (I.E. Bodybuilding) I go out and find the biggest guy I can, find out what hes doing, and follow that to a T, because I know that it works. Trying to reinvent the wheel is the dumbest thing you can possibly do.
Your case studies have yet to provide any OUTSTANDING resulsts (Wavelength and Adonis I dont consider outstanding, Wavelength has an exceptional fast metabolism, and Adonis you never know if hes telling the truth or not).

[dj181]

If you are talking about only removing fat from the ab area, then no it won't help. You will lose just as much fat from your abs doing 1000 crunches as you will from riding a stationary bike. Yeah, ab and core work will tone and strength the ab and core area, but it won't remove fat from those areas any better than any other exercise would do. As far as fat loss is concerned, "caloric expense" of the exercise is all that matters.

[Shockwave]

So ab and core work wouldn't help reduce a large midsection ? OK thanks 

I kind of agree with Panda here, ive always been of the opinion that there is no such thing as spot reduction, the body removes fat in a certain order and you cant do anything to change that, and doing abdominal work will make the abs grow in musculature, and when you diet the fat off, boom thicker muscle=bigger midsection.
I only think that happens with Steroid users though, Im pretty sure that a natural cannot add enough muscle to the midsection to fuck it up.

But no, I dont believe spot fat reduction works at all. The body chooses where its going to lose fat from, and you cant persuade it by working one muscle group more than another, or every fat ass training there abs 24/7 would have ripped stomachs.

Just MHO.

[che]

If you are talking about only removing fat from the ab area, then no it won't help. You will lose just as much fat from your abs doing 1000 crunches as you will from riding a stationary bike. Yeah, ab and core work will tone and strength the ab and core area, but it won't remove fat from those areas any better than any other exercise would do. As far as fat loss is concerned, "caloric expense" of the exercise is all that matters.

Exercises don't remove fat

[w8m8]

NO it would thicken it 

unbelievable

Oh ?  hmm .... seems to me that's not something you'd have to worry about for awhile ... I am not being antagonistic and truly do wonder why you are not building muscle anywhere ... your photos show a loss of fat .. but no shape is appearing anyplace and it's been months .. are you concentrating on just losing pounds and not defining anything until you reach a certain point ?

Don't be mean to me if you reply .. I'm not being mean I'm asking as nice as I can  


What is the answer for decreasing such a large midsection and not allowing your limbs to become so diminished then ?

[dj181]

Yes they do che ma man, but they don't remove fat selectively, meaning that you lose fat from all over your body, and not just one area. I'm not sure if you check my "Me at my peak" photo when I was a legit sub-6, but I NEVER EVER DID 1 FUCKING CRUNCH, SIT-UP, OR LEG RAISE, to achieve that ab condition. Yeah man, I know my abs ain't outstanding, but the point is that spot reduction is a complete and utter myth.

[Meso_z]

You must work your abs in order to get them impressive when low in bf.

[Shockwave]

You must work your abs in order to get them impressive when low in bf.

I think has more to do with developing the muscle so that they stand out and are well defined when youre BF gets low enough.
This is all theory on my part, as I have never been that low in BF.