CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?

[Fury]

Boohoo. This reminds me of the controversy over that new Vince Vaugh comedy coming out where they, *GASP*, used the word "fag" once.

240 and his far-left buddies are waging war on free speech.

[Straw Man]

I am an attorney, but i don't go along with all the hyper technical, super-sensitive, bullshit in our society to where we literally paralyze ourselves just for fear of offending a few people.    

the military will decide if this stuff was appropriate or not and they have every right to set rules for this kind of thing since their ship is not only their workplace but also where they live (at times)

It's really hilarious that last week you were attempting to defend Tony because he overheard something but then this situation is just "lefties" overeacting and being "super sensitive".  

[Soul Crusher]

the military will decide if this stuff was appropriate or not and they have every right to set rules for this kind of thing since their ship is not only their workplace but also where they live (at times)

It's really hilarious that last week you were attempting to defend Tony because he overheard something but then this situation is just "lefties" overeacting and being "super sensitive".  

  

I was not defending the hyper-sensitive bullshit in society, only that the current state ofour nation is one of PC nnosense in favor of a tiny minority of mentally disordered gays who think everything is about them all the time. 

 

[Straw Man]

  ::)I was not defending the hyper-sensitive bullshit in society, only that the current state ofour nation is one of PC nnosense in favor of a tiny minority of mentally disordered gays who think everything is about them all the time. 

what does this have to do with gay people?

[Soul Crusher]

what does this have to do with gay people?

The story is making news because of the "anti-gay" comments in the video.

 

[Straw Man]

The story is making news because of the "anti-gay" comments in the video.

there was also profanity, simulated sex acts, and what appear to be two female sailors in a shower together.

so why do you only key in on the anti-gay slurs?

btw last week when Tony only overheard two gay guys talking in public locker room (not talking to him, not in his workplace, he didn't inform the management of the gym so no one "condoned" it) and you said this:

Employment Law does not require that it be directed at a certain person, only that a environment be permitted to where it goes on. 
Tony's example seems very valid to me in this context.   

[Soul Crusher]

there was also profanity, simulated sex acts, and what appear to be two female sailors in a shower together.

so why do you only key in on the anti-gay slurs?

btw last week when Tony only overheard two gay guys talking in public locker room (not talking to him, not in his workplace, he didn't inform the management of the gym so no one "condoned" it) and you said this:

Did you read my comment?    I stated what the law is, not that I agree with it.  I thinks its pure bullshit.   

Same with this story running on CNN.  And yes, it came about as a result of the gay stuff, especially in how they can tie it to DADT. 


And apparently the two women in the shower were not too upset about it.   

Its only the few twinks who always make an issue out of everything.     

[Straw Man]

Did you read my comment?    I stated what the law is, not that I agree with it.  I thinks its pure bullshit.  
Same with this story running on CNN.  And yes, it came about as a result of the gay stuff, especially in how they can tie it to DADT.  
And apparently the two women in the shower were not too upset about it.  
Its only the few twinks who always make an issue out of everything.    

so what if the two woman were OK with it.  It's not their place to make policy for the military.  What if two guys made a video and forced the crew to watch it would that make it OK?

My main problem with this situation is how you characterize it as something trumped up by "far lefties" and super senstive PC bullshit.   You know full well that the military is not going to condone something like this and it's got nothing to do with left or right or pc, etc...

[blacken700]

 i don't understand how a guy as smart as he obviously is can not think that this is not going to come back and haunt him later

[Soul Crusher]

so what if the two woman were OK with it.  It's not their place to make policy for the military.  What if two guys made a video and forced the crew to watch it would that make it OK?

My main problem with this situation is how you characterize it as something trumped up by "far lefties" and super senstive PC bullshit.   You know full well that the military is not going to condone something like this and it's got nothing to do with left or right or pc, etc...

No one was forced to watch anything.    And the CNN coverage focused on the anti-gay stuff and oh the horror the dreaded "F Word".  

Most likely some mentally disordered twink like ala PFC Manning leakedthis to CNN because his little panties got twisted.  

[Soul Crusher]

i don't understand how a guy as smart as he obviously is can not think that this is not going to come back and haunt him later

Maybe because its no big deal in the first place? 

Its like saying:   "Will my blasting Slayer over the gym radio comeback to haunt me?" 

Really?  Is this the kind of nation we live in now? 

We can tolerate drone attacks, swat raids in the middle of the night, TSA groping, big brother, etc - BUT GOD FORBID SOMEONE HAVE A BIT OF BAD TASTE HUMOR AND MAKE A ANTI-GAY REMARK?

 

We are finished in this nation with that type of mentality.   
 

[blacken700]

The Navy said Sunday it will investigate the "clearly inappropriate" videos shown through the nuclear-powered ship's closed-circuit television system as part of an onboard movie night.
Navy Cmdr. Chris Sims said in a statement sent to The Associated Press that the videos "were not acceptable then and are not acceptable in today's Navy."

Executive officers and other leaders "are charged to lead by example and are held accountable for setting the proper tone and upholding the standards of honor, courage and commitment that we expect sailors to exemplify," he said.

regardless of what you think the navy thinks its not appropriate, and that's all that matters

[Straw Man]

No one was forced to watch anything.    And the CNN coverage focused on the anti-gay stuff and oh the horror the dreaded "F Word".  

Most likely some mentally disordered twink like ala PFC Manning leakedthis to CNN because his little panties got twisted.  

your panties were in a twist last week when you defended Tony non-existent "case" because he over heard two guys talking in non-workplace and got angry

now you want us to believe that sexually explicit and derogatory videos are OK in a workplace and not even just a workplace but a place where people both work and live together in close quarters.  A place that has more stringent standards of conduct than any other workplace?

make up your mind

[240 is Back]

Would you be a-okay with an anti-african-american night?  maybe we could do something funny about the native americans, too?

I really don't give a fuck, seriously.   People need to man up, toughen up, and stop the "24-7 victim" routine. 

I see.   You think people should be able to use military movie theaters to make anti-black movies.  How much $ did you send to Rand Paul again?

[240 is Back]

I wonder why mccain, palin, and other top republican voices haven't come fwd and defended the right of the captain to call people homosexuals.

Weird.  Are they crazy left wussies as well?

[Dos Equis]

Washington (CNN) -- The Navy has opened an investigation into how a series of raunchy videos, full of sexual innuendo and anti-gay remarks, were produced and shown to the crew of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise while on deployment supporting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Navy spokesman Cmdr. Chris Sims said the videos, which were shown to the crew in 2006 and 2007, are "inappropriate."

Excerpts from the videos and descriptions of their content were first published Saturday by The Virginian-Pilot newspaper in Norfolk, Virginia.

The videos on the paper's website, reviewed by CNN, feature a man identified by two Navy officials and The Virginian-Pilot as Capt. Owen Honors, who at the time was the executive officer, or second-in-command, of the Enterprise. He recently took command of the carrier, winning one of the most coveted assignments in the U.S. Navy, which has only 11 aircraft carriers.

Honors is shown cursing along with other members of his staff in an attempt to demonstrate humor, according to videos. There are also anti-gay slurs, simulated sex acts, and what appear to be two female sailors in a shower together.

The investigation was ordered Friday by Adm. John Harvey, the four-star head of the Navy's Fleet Forces Command, after the videos were detailed in The Virginian-Pilot. The paper also posted a link to some of the material, but edited it so that expletives were censored and some identities of junior Navy crew were disguised.

The Navy issued a statement Saturday, saying in part "production of videos, like the ones produced four to five years ago on USS Enterprise and now being written about in the Virginian-Pilot, were not acceptable then and are still not acceptable in today's Navy. The Navy does not endorse or condone these kinds of actions."

The statement also said, "U.S. Fleet Forces Command has initiated an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the production of these videos; however, it would be inappropriate to comment any further on the specifics of the investigation."

But the Saturday statement was an about-face from the initial military statement to the newspaper. In that statement, the Navy said the videos were "not created with the intent to offend anyone. The videos were intended to be humorous skits focusing the crew's attention on specific issues such as port visits, traffic safety, water conservation, ship cleanliness, etc."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/02/navy.videos/index.html...


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WTF is wrong with this country?

The far let is more worried about a stupid video than people dead set on killing us.   Nice.  
  

You have got to be kidding me.  A bunch of guys and gals who spend months on a ship made an "offensive" video.  Big friggin deal.  Talk about an overreaction.  33 I agree that the correspondent (and the host) acted like this was some kind of war crime.      

[MCWAY]

The Navy said Sunday it will investigate the "clearly inappropriate" videos shown through the nuclear-powered ship's closed-circuit television system as part of an onboard movie night.
Navy Cmdr. Chris Sims said in a statement sent to The Associated Press that the videos "were not acceptable then and are not acceptable in today's Navy."

Executive officers and other leaders "are charged to lead by example and are held accountable for setting the proper tone and upholding the standards of honor, courage and commitment that we expect sailors to exemplify," he said.

regardless of what you think the navy thinks its not appropriate, and that's all that matters

Not acceptable then? He's talking as if this happened decades ago. This was less than 4-5 years back. Of course CDR Sims is saying that now. It's a PR thing to pacify the PC crowd.

The movies they show probably had more sex and profanity than CAPT Honors' skits.
So, basically you could have a movie on XO night, with lesbians and profanity and people calling gay men, "f-aggots", with no problem.

[Soul Crusher]

I wonder why mccain, palin, and other top republican voices haven't come fwd and defended the right of the captain to call people homosexuals.

Weird.  Are they crazy left wussies as well?

   

[Straw Man]

You have got to be kidding me.  A bunch of guys and gals who spend months on a ship made an "offensive" video.  Big friggin deal.  Talk about an overreaction.  33 I agree that the correspondent (and the host) acted like this was some kind of war crime.      

doesn't the video post date the action by the navy?

shouldn't you and 333 be upset at the navy first

[Soul Crusher]

doesn't the video post date the action by the navy?

shouldn't you and 333 be upset at the navy first

Agreed, I am upset at the reaction of the navy brass.   

Simple - "we are at war, these sailors are under tremendous pressure and were blowing off steam." 


End of story. 

[Dos Equis]

Bunch of hypersensitive pansies. 

[Soul Crusher]

Bunch of hypersensitive pansies. 

I can't believe 240 became one of them, but oh well.   At least he is being honest with himself and us now and no longer carrying on the "I am a libertarian" chrade.   

[MCWAY]

Boohoo. This reminds me of the controversy over that new Vince Vaugh comedy coming out where they, *GASP*, used the word "fag" once.

240 and his far-left buddies are waging war on free speech.

Actually, they were bellyaching about the promo, from the film, "The Dilemma" in which Vaughan refers to electric cars as "gay".

[Straw Man]

I'm sure in Straw and 240's world the DI is wrong for calling him a fat body.   

I'm sure shit like that happens all the time, especially in basic training

what's that got to do with the subject of this thread?

[The Showstoppa]

240 & TA - are you offended by this? 

haha, I had to sleep with my "piece" in bootcamp....idiot next to me kicked the heel of it when we were doing a parade drill and I dropped it.....I just wrapped it in a blanket and snuggled with it.....