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Taliban take on bodybuilding
« on: January 03, 2011, 08:54:16 AM »

A message is distributed in most gyms of Peshawar - a city of Pakistan close to afghan border saying according to Islamic law any sports which is against the dress code of Islam is Harram (prohibit). Islamic dress code for men is that they have to wear the pants long enough to cover their knees. There has been serious violations of Islamic dress code in bodybuilding and wrestling contests. The way young boys showed their shaved, oiled and almost naked bodies wearing only undergarment in public is shamefull and unacceptable. We warn all those involved in this shamefull act to stop organizing such competitions. You are insulting Islamic laws and spreading shamelessness in Muslim society.

message was too long and in local pushto language i sum it up for u bitches.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 09:04:37 AM »
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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 09:06:47 AM »
Fucking goats is OK though.
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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 09:10:33 AM »
In before bobs argues such prohibitions are cultural, not religious.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 09:19:57 AM »
i think these talibanees are too afraid they might get exited from seeing these oiled up boys

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 09:52:55 AM »
Best kept secret in the Muslim world: young boys are fair game. Many old writings/verses praise the man -boy relationships as perfectly alright. Even to the extent that some boys are dressed as girls and used for sex. Does not always have to be 72 female virgins awaiting in paradise.
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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 10:14:18 AM »
A message is distributed in most gym,s of Peshawar a city of Pakistan close to afghan border saying according to Islamic law any sports which is against the dress code of Islam is Harram(prohabit).Islamic dress code for men is that they have to wear the pants long enough to cover their knees.There has been serious violations of Islamic dress code in bodybuilding and wrestling contests.the way young boys showed their shaved,oiled and almost naked bodies wearing only undergarment in public is shamefull and unacceptable.we warn all those involve in this shamefull act to stop organizing such competitions.you are insulting Islamic laws and spreading shamelessness in Muslim society.

message was too long and in local pushto language i sum it up for u bitches.

Tell the "taliban" that Joe said to kiss his big hairy Italian plumbs!

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 11:55:56 AM »
Tell the "taliban" that Joe said to kiss his big hairy Italian plumbs!

Joe is Jew.so not very different dress code.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2011, 11:59:32 AM »
i think these talibanees are too afraid they might get exited from seeing these oiled up boys

sodomy is a serious problem in afghan culture.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2011, 12:22:00 PM »
Islamic dress code for men is that they have to wear the pants long enough to cover their knees.

That semi-explains Sherief Salami's pastel-colored capri pants....

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2011, 12:25:40 PM »
So here is what Islam really thinks ...


What is the ruling on body building in Islam? Are we allowed to build up our bodies like those of wrestlers so long as we don't show off and it's for our own good?




Indeed, Islam permits the Muslim to practice sports and games as long as such sports are beneficial for the person’s physical fitness. It encourages a Muslim to be strong and to seek the means of strength. In his hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) commands us saying: “Teach your children swimming, archery and horseback riding.”

There are many kinds of games and sports that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) recommended to Muslims as a source of enjoyment and recreation. Such sports require skill and determination, and involve physical exercise and bodybuilding activity.

However, sports and games must not involve haram activities nor the taking of substances that are harmful to the body, such as the steroids that many bodybuilders take.

Responding to the question, Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, states the following:

“Bodybuilding aims to make the body strong and sound, which is an important and desirable goal. Islam is concerned with man’s well-being in both body and soul, and it encourages all kinds of sport that will strengthen the body and maintain good health as well as provide relaxation and leisure, such as swimming, shooting, horseback riding, sword fighting and wrestling.

But when Islam accepts sports and encourages us to engage in them, it does not make them a goal in and of themselves. Rather sport is considered to be a means of protecting the sacred limits of Islam and the dignity and rights of the Muslims, in the belief that strength is one of the most important means of achieving victory and prevailing in the face of challenges and warding off the threats that face Islam.

If the purpose of sport is to prepare the body to be fit to carry out the duty of jihad so as to make the word of Allah supreme, then sport is essential. Allah Almighty says, “And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war…” (Al-Anfal :60)

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said: “The strong believer is better and more beloved to Allah than the weak believer.” (Reported by Muslim)

If the aim is relaxation and maintaining good health, then sport is permissible. If it involves something haram, (forbidden) such as missing Prayers, uncovering any part of the `awrah (body parts that must be covered) or mixing with the opposite sex and so on, then it is haram.

Those who engage in bodybuilding uncover their `awrahs when practicing this sport, which is undoubtedly haram. The `awrah of a man extends from the navel to the knee, and it is not permissible for him to uncover it in front of anyone other than his wife. It is also not permissible for him to look at the `awrah of anyone else.

The basic principle concerning this matter is the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) in which he said: “What is between the navel and the knee is `awrah.”

If the sport is free of these haram things, then there is nothing wrong with engaging in it.

Having stated the above, I would like to stress the following two points:

1. Some of those who engage in this sport are motivated by self-admiration and love of pride and showing off before others because of their beautiful bodies and strong muscles, and other bad motives, some of which are worse than others. The believer should shun such things and seek the adornment of good attitude, humility and fairness.

2. Going to extremes in making the body look good and being concerned with that is not a good thing. What is good in this regard is that which helps the Muslim to maintain good health, to practice Islam, to engage in jihad for the sake of Allah, and to do the acts of worship which require physical strength such as Hajj.

However, doing more than that and going to extremes usually distracts the Muslim from doing things that are more important, as happens in the case of those who practice many kinds of sports nowadays, training for many hours each day.

What benefit can a Muslim gain if his body is as strong as a bull, but his heart is devoid of faith and all virtue?

Moreover, the late Saudi scholar Sheikh Ibn `Uthaymeen, adds:

“Playing sports is permissible if that does not distract one from something that is obligatory. If it distracts one from something that is obligatory, then it becomes haram, and if it becomes a person’s way of life so that it takes up most of his time, then it is a waste of time, and in this case at the very least it is makruh (reprehensible).
With regard to playing sport wearing only shorts that show the thighs or most of them, this is haram. The correct view is that young men must cover their thighs, and it is not permissible to watch players when they have their thighs uncovered in this manner.”


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503547448&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 03:53:34 PM »
Fuck it, bigboobs isn't taking this one..

but from what I know what the OP posted is correct according to the traditional uderstanding of islamic dress code. The stress is on decent appearance, rather than a specific dress code (but that is all too abstract for these taliban pinheads). The definition of decent of-course changes with time.

Best kept secret in the Muslim world: young boys are fair game. Many old writings/verses praise the man -boy relationships as perfectly alright. Even to the extent that some boys are dressed as girls and used for sex. Does not always have to be 72 female virgins awaiting in paradise.
I think you may have heard this as a rumor or you're mixing up some information you came across. There is nothing in islam that permits the above. Sorry for the predictable response but this is a completely cultural phenomenon that tends to be concentrated in very conservative countries like afghanistan where contact with women is very limited outside of marraige/family.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »
Who cares what those ass backwards fucks wear anyfuckingway !?

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2011, 03:57:14 PM »
Who cares what those ass backwards fucks wear anyfuckingway !?

Exactly. As long as what they're wearing doesn't explode who gives a shit.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2011, 05:00:35 PM »
Fuck it, bigboobs isn't taking this one..

but from what I know what the OP posted is correct according to the traditional uderstanding of islamic dress code. The stress is on decent appearance, rather than a specific dress code (but that is all too abstract for these taliban pinheads). The definition of decent of-course changes with time.
I think you may have heard this as a rumor or you're mixing up some information you came across. There is nothing in islam that permits the above. Sorry for the predictable response but this is a completely cultural phenomenon that tends to be concentrated in very conservative countries like afghanistan where contact with women is very limited outside of marraige/family.

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Pedophilia is rampant in islamic "culture".   Disgusting, but true. 

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2011, 05:02:01 PM »
Pedophilia and beastiality too.............what a combo huh?

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2011, 05:15:22 PM »

However, sports and games must not involve haram activities nor the taking of substances that are harmful to the body, such as the steroids that many bodybuilders take.


I thought steroids and other drugs are commonly sold at pharmacies throughout the Middle East and the Gulf without any prescription.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 09:44:00 AM »
So here is what Islam really thinks ...


What is the ruling on body building in Islam? Are we allowed to build up our bodies like those of wrestlers so long as we don't show off and it's for our own good?




Indeed, Islam permits the Muslim to practice sports and games as long as such sports are beneficial for the person’s physical fitness. It encourages a Muslim to be strong and to seek the means of strength. In his hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) commands us saying: “Teach your children swimming, archery and horseback riding.”

There are many kinds of games and sports that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) recommended to Muslims as a source of enjoyment and recreation. Such sports require skill and determination, and involve physical exercise and bodybuilding activity.

However, sports and games must not involve haram activities nor the taking of substances that are harmful to the body, such as the steroids that many bodybuilders take.

Responding to the question, Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, states the following:

“Bodybuilding aims to make the body strong and sound, which is an important and desirable goal. Islam is concerned with man’s well-being in both body and soul, and it encourages all kinds of sport that will strengthen the body and maintain good health as well as provide relaxation and leisure, such as swimming, shooting, horseback riding, sword fighting and wrestling.

But when Islam accepts sports and encourages us to engage in them, it does not make them a goal in and of themselves. Rather sport is considered to be a means of protecting the sacred limits of Islam and the dignity and rights of the Muslims, in the belief that strength is one of the most important means of achieving victory and prevailing in the face of challenges and warding off the threats that face Islam.

If the purpose of sport is to prepare the body to be fit to carry out the duty of jihad so as to make the word of Allah supreme, then sport is essential. Allah Almighty says, “And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war…” (Al-Anfal :60)

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said: “The strong believer is better and more beloved to Allah than the weak believer.” (Reported by Muslim)

If the aim is relaxation and maintaining good health, then sport is permissible. If it involves something haram, (forbidden) such as missing Prayers, uncovering any part of the `awrah (body parts that must be covered) or mixing with the opposite sex and so on, then it is haram.

Those who engage in bodybuilding uncover their `awrahs when practicing this sport, which is undoubtedly haram. The `awrah of a man extends from the navel to the knee, and it is not permissible for him to uncover it in front of anyone other than his wife. It is also not permissible for him to look at the `awrah of anyone else.

The basic principle concerning this matter is the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) in which he said: “What is between the navel and the knee is `awrah.”

If the sport is free of these haram things, then there is nothing wrong with engaging in it.

Having stated the above, I would like to stress the following two points:

1. Some of those who engage in this sport are motivated by self-admiration and love of pride and showing off before others because of their beautiful bodies and strong muscles, and other bad motives, some of which are worse than others. The believer should shun such things and seek the adornment of good attitude, humility and fairness.

2. Going to extremes in making the body look good and being concerned with that is not a good thing. What is good in this regard is that which helps the Muslim to maintain good health, to practice Islam, to engage in jihad for the sake of Allah, and to do the acts of worship which require physical strength such as Hajj.

However, doing more than that and going to extremes usually distracts the Muslim from doing things that are more important, as happens in the case of those who practice many kinds of sports nowadays, training for many hours each day.

What benefit can a Muslim gain if his body is as strong as a bull, but his heart is devoid of faith and all virtue?

Moreover, the late Saudi scholar Sheikh Ibn `Uthaymeen, adds:

“Playing sports is permissible if that does not distract one from something that is obligatory. If it distracts one from something that is obligatory, then it becomes haram, and if it becomes a person’s way of life so that it takes up most of his time, then it is a waste of time, and in this case at the very least it is makruh (reprehensible).
With regard to playing sport wearing only shorts that show the thighs or most of them, this is haram. The correct view is that young men must cover their thighs, and it is not permissible to watch players when they have their thighs uncovered in this manner.”


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503547448&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar

good find Ron.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 09:46:18 AM »
Where does strapping a bomb to yourself and running into a crowded market fit into the equation?

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 09:46:37 AM »
I thought steroids and other drugs are commonly sold at pharmacies throughout the Middle East and the Gulf without any prescription.

and you know what the biggest export from Afghanistan is right?

Are you saying there's hypocrisy in a major religion?
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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 09:47:37 AM »
 The definition of decent of-course changes with time.
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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 09:48:14 AM »
Where does strapping a bomb to yourself and running into a crowded market fit into the equation?
Can you imagine the smell in a muslim gym? That's chemical warfare. :-X

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 09:49:49 AM »
Can you imagine the smell in a muslim gym? That's chemical warfare. :-X

Ouch..... :-X   But honestly, it can't be much worse than a train in europe.  ;D

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 09:50:02 AM »
Where does strapping a bomb to yourself and running into a crowded market fit into the equation?

Makes you a good Muslim who is just doing what Mohammed told you to do.

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Re: Taliban take on bodybuilding
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 09:50:54 AM »
Makes you a good Muslim who is just doing what Mohammed told you to do.


EXACTLY and people act like those who do it are not really Muslims...  ::)