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Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« on: January 03, 2011, 06:45:09 PM »
Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Jan 3 2011

Reports the polling agency:

    Barack Obama's job approval rating reached the symbolic 50% mark in the latest three-day average from Gallup Daily tracking. Obama's approval rating has been in the mid-40% range for much of the latter half of 2010. He last hit 50% approval in a three-day average near the end of May/beginning of June.

Notably:

    the latest numbers ... come at a time when the president was on vacation in Hawaii and out of the political spotlight, following a highly publicized pre-Christmas session with Congress that resulted in the passage of several major pieces of legislation.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 07:04:17 PM »
If gallup had him at 40%, it'd be REALLY HUGE news.

But since it's 50, well, that doesn't matter.



face it guys, Obama could personally set fires to old ladies in hospital rooms using piles taxpayer money while Reverend Wright chanted Kenyan Christmas caroles....


and half of america would still fist bump the guy.  

Repubs.  Are. Screwed.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 07:13:21 PM »
24/7 media kneepadding over gay DADT, racist minorities, and non-taxpayers like obama.  That is 50% of the nation. 


The 50% that actually work and pay taxes generally loathe obama.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 07:19:36 PM »
24/7 media kneepadding over gay DADT, racist minorities, and non-taxpayers like obama.  That is 50% of the nation. 


The 50% that actually work and pay taxes generally loathe obama.

I work and pay taxes... No loathing here.

As a matter of fact, how can you say that Obama doesn't pay taxes? Dude... his 5 Mill a year doesn't get taxed?

WHAAAAT?!!!!?!?!?!!?!

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 07:21:33 PM »
I said generally that the 50% of people who actually work and pay taxes hate obama. 

Do the math - its easy to formulate. 

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 07:22:36 PM »
I said generally that the 50% of people who actually work and pay taxes hate obama. 

Do the math - its easy to formulate. 

So you think that 50% of this country's people who pay taxes LOATHE OBAMA!!! LOATHE HIM! Actually HATE the guy... Really?


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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 07:26:03 PM »
So you think that 50% of this country's people who pay taxes LOATHE OBAMA!!! LOATHE HIM! Actually HATE the guy... Really?



Yes.  I talk to business people all day, mostly small business people, and I could never repeat what is said to me as to what they think of this WH. 

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 07:28:15 PM »
Yes.  I talk to business people all day, mostly small business people, and I could never repeat what is said to me as to what they think of this WH. 

I talk to them too, the ones I talk to hate the tax portion, but they also admit that the right wing that you are nut hugging on aren't doing shit to fix anything because they only care about winning elections and right now, they're doing that on the "Jesus" vote.

So yeah, they may not like the kooky left, as I don't, but they don't like the crazy christian right either.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2011, 07:32:36 PM »
Like who?  The Tea Party people are not religious nuts. 

I am in NY, and have I EVER once been a social consr? 

I just know on a local state level what the far left does and they are a fucking disaster for everyone but the uber wealthy and poverty stricken ghetto dwellers. 


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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2011, 07:35:34 PM »
Like who?  The Tea Party people are not religious nuts. 

I am in NY, and have I EVER once been a social consr? 

I just know on a local state level what the far left does and they are a fucking disaster for everyone but the uber wealthy and poverty stricken ghetto dwellers. 



The Tea Party itself isn't "religious", but it's been taken over by a lot of religious kooks... Palin, O'Donnell (Didn't you say she'd win) and a bunch of others...

Look man, say what you want, but facts are facts... the "base" of the republicans are not "fiscally responsible" they are christian kooks... Just like the base of the Democrats are uber liberal kooks who want to hug trees and shit.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2011, 07:38:33 PM »
I dont disagree, but the damage done by the far left hits me harder and in many more ways than some religious kooks. 

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 07:40:44 PM »
I dont disagree, but the damage done by the far left hits me harder and in many more ways than some religious kooks. 

Not me man... I'll be honest.

I don't see any change in my tax dollars nor how they are spent... None of them are cutting spending... This year you will see.

All of that cutting spending talk and nothing is gonna happen, even by your Tea Party people... The 2011 fiscal budget will soon be upon us... You will see.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2011, 07:43:22 PM »
Not me man... I'll be honest.

I don't see any change in my tax dollars nor how they are spent... None of them are cutting spending... This year you will see.

All of that cutting spending talk and nothing is gonna happen, even by your Tea Party people... The 2011 fiscal budget will soon be upon us... You will see.


I look also at the local level and state level.  In my county alone, the HIGHEST TAXED COUNTY IN THE NATION, the democrats are blocking anything to curtail the tax insanity, the far left commies are blocking shale development to deal with our debtm trying to shut down our nuke plants, and doing everything to drive people dfrom this state. 

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2011, 07:45:50 PM »
I look also at the local level and state level.  In my county alone, the HIGHEST TAXED COUNTY IN THE NATION, the democrats are blocking anything to curtail the tax insanity, the far left commies are blocking shale development to deal with our debtm trying to shut down our nuke plants, and doing everything to drive people dfrom this state. 

Then let the people move... They should. IF they want to tax the shit out of you, see how much they get when everyone is gone.

I agree it's insane.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2011, 07:48:23 PM »
Like who?  The Tea Party people are not religious nuts. 

 Some of them are.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2011, 07:48:28 PM »
Barry aint around and his numbers go up.....well the new Congress is getting ready to kick the dog shit out of him. He doesn't like that so much so we'll see.
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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2011, 07:56:51 PM »
Some of them are.

And some of the demos are full blown commies.  Whats your point? 

In my mind, a religious nut, while disturbing, is less dangerous than a communist. 

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2011, 07:57:48 PM »
And some of the demos are full blown commies.  Whats your point? 

In my mind, a religious nut, while disturbing, is less dangerous than a communist. 

I find them equally disturbing because they BOTH try to tell you what you can and can't do.

What uses religion and the other uses "society", but both want to tell you what you as and individual should be doing, they just do it differently.

I think they are exactly the same myself.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2011, 09:52:23 AM »
Post-Midterm Approval Ratings Don’t Predict Re-Election Chances
By NATE SILVER

Barack Obama got some good news to start his new year: his Gallup approval rating ticked up to 50 percent yesterday, against 42 percent disapproval. That’s the first time it has been at the 50 percent threshold since early June.

Mr. Obama had some successes to point to in December, like the accomplishments of the lame-duck session of Congress, and some moderately encouraging economic numbers.

Still, it’s unclear whether the movement is real or reflects statistical noise; most polls still have Mr. Obama slightly below 50 percent. And it probably isn’t worth going through very much effort to find out, provided that our focus is on 2012.

Historically, there has been almost no relationship between a President’s approval rating following the midterms and how he eventually fared at the next presidential election. I’ve alluded to this in the past, but the data illustrate the point a little bit more forcefully.

Below are the Gallup approval ratings at a comparable point in time — early January just after the midterms — for the 11 prior incumbent presidents who stood for election (not re-election, technically speaking, in cases like Gerald Ford). The chart also shows what percentage of the vote the president ultimately received, and by what margin he won or lost by, once the election took place.

Franklin Roosevelt in 1943 and Dwight Eisenhower in 1955 had the highest approval ratings at this point in time and indeed won their elections fairly easily. On the other hand, Ronald Reagan was tied with Gerald Ford for having the lowest one — 37 percent — and he won in a blowout. Bill Clinton’s approval rating was 47 percent, and he won. George H.W. Bush’s was 58 percent, but he lost. His son George W. had a 63 percent approval rating and won, but only barely.

As you can see, there’s not much of a relationship there. The correlation between a president’s approval rating in the January after the midterms and the share of the vote he received at the subsequent election (shown in the first of the two graphs below) is .10. The correlation between his approval rating and the margin that he won or lost by (shown in the second chart) is .09.

Neither of these approach statistical significance. If we used this data to predict what a president’s fate would eventually be, our “model” would show that a president with a 35 percent approval rating at this point in time would be expected to win 49.8 percent of the vote, whereas one with a 65 percent approval rating would get 51.7 percent of the vote. In other words, it makes almost no difference, and the margins of error on the forecasts would overwhelm any insight they might provide. It’s just too early.

This is not to say that you should pay no attention at all to presidential approval numbers. It may be that the true relationship between these variables is modestly stronger than this, and that we’ve been a bit unlucky that it hasn’t done a good job of presenting itself. We have only 11 data points to look at, and when you have that few, they aren’t always inclined to be cooperative.

To the extent that changes in Mr. Obama’s approval rating perceive clues about how the public is apportioning credit or blame for the performance of the economy, or how it is refereeing the fights between Mr. Obama and the Republicans in Congress, they might theoretically be interesting — but such relationships are usually difficult to tease out in practice.

Mostly, you’ll just need to be patient. The good news is that the closer we get to the election, the more meaningful the numbers become. By the end of a president’s third year, for instance, the correlation between a president’s approval rating and his performance at the election picks up to around .3 or .4 — still quite crude, but enough to give it some predictive power.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/05/post-midterm-approval-ratings-dont-predict-re-election-chances/

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2011, 07:01:43 PM »
LOL... the irony.

BB quoting left-wing shill Nate Silver, using 538.com to do nothing more than motivate dems not to rest on their laurels.

BB, they're making you into a leftist mouthpiece.  Don't fall for it!  You'll encourage 33 and others to rest assured they have 2012 in the bag (they already think so)... and Obama will waltz back into office.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2011, 07:15:02 PM »
I get tons of my threads from DU, and HP.   

I try to seek out what I believe to be good info, regardless of where it eminates from. 

As for Bama's approval - so what? 

Other than passing DADT, signing away our nukes, and passing a half assed tax agreement - what has he done?

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2011, 07:38:39 PM »
I get tons of my threads from DU, and HP.   

I try to seek out what I believe to be good info, regardless of where it eminates from. 

As for Bama's approval - so what? 

Other than passing DADT, signing away our nukes, and passing a half assed tax agreement - what has he done?

I don't really think the nukes are a big deal.

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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2011, 05:09:17 AM »
I get tons of my threads from DU, and HP.  

I try to seek out what I believe to be good info, regardless of where it eminates from.  

As for Bama's approval - so what?  

Other than passing DADT, signing away our nukes, and passing a half assed tax agreement - what has he done?


Forget the liberal hype about a comeback: 2010 was a stunningly bad year for Barack Obama, and 2011 could be even worse

Ignore the revisionist hype in sections of the liberal media about President Obama staging a (mythical) political comeback – this is a presidency with an approval rating of 45 percent (according to the RealClear Politics poll of polls), that presides over a nation where just 27 percent of voters think the country is moving in the right direction, and which just 29 percent of Americans think will be returned to power in 2012. The White House may be claiming a couple of political wins in the dying embers of the lame duck Congress after expending a great deal of political capital in the Senate over the reckless ratification of the Moscow-friendly START Treaty and the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, but these are issues barely on the radar screens of most American voters in the lead-up to 2012, an election which will be dominated by the economy and health care reform.

The political landscape still looks strikingly bleak for the “transformational president” as he goes into 2011. 2010 was a stunningly bad year for Barack Obama, no matter how much the likes of The New York Times or The Washington Post might try to sugar coat it. Here are four key reasons why it was a year Obama will want to forget:

1. The midterm elections were a defeat of epic proportions for the Obama Presidency.....

2. Conservatism grew increasingly dominant in America......

3. The Left lost ground and engaged in a brutal civil war.....

4. The Tea Party became more powerful than the president at the ballot box

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100070107/forget-the-liberal-hype-about-a-comeback-2010-was-a-stunningly-bad-year-for-barack-obama-and-2011-could-be-even-worse/


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Re: Gallup: Obama Approval Back at 50 Percent
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2011, 05:23:33 AM »
Just curious, has anyone on here, or anyone you know in real life ever participated in a Gallup Poll?