Going to compete natural this year- shoot for pro card in 3 (just to spite gh15)

[GroinkTropin]

It really irks me the guy claims no human can turn pro naturally so I am setting out to prove him wrong. I have a lot of experience under my belt bbing wise, have been training since I was 14. I recently turned 30. I have taken about 4 years off total for varying reasons notably and recently school. I have my A.S. and am going for B.S.N. Anyway, I am just now getting back into working out after a dismal 2010. I am weighing currently about 202-208 range depending on water and bodyfat is around 10-12%. I carry a little extra weight (fat) on my legs and lower back. Dnp helped take care of that last summer though.

I have been maintaining my weight and muscle mass on a shit diet with no training, I believe I have the rare genetic package that could carry me all the way IF I can stay 100% dedicated to my diet and training. My best stats were a bodyweight high of 230 naturally when i was 22 and 253 on gear, I never cycled much. I would run things here and there but for whatever reason I never ran a respectable cycle. I got on the hype train with tren last year and it made me fat and with this horrid gyno, for the last 3 months I have been totally clean and the gyno is gone thanks in part to 20mgs ED of nolva.

My idea is a simple one- lean out first, I am shooting for legit 190lbs at around 7% by end of Jan and then use all of Feb March April to bulk while lean and then fine tune and compete at the Contra Costa. Even at 253lbs I had a 31 inch waist, it is about 29-30 inches right now. I have extremely wide shoulders great legs and my back has always been my strongest bodypart. I should be able to bring my waist down to 28 inches when i compete for sure at an onstage weight of about 220 at 5ft9. All clean, all numbers gh15 swears are impossible. Friends I am here to tell you it IS possible to do! And I will fucking do it, mark my words. More to come.

[DK II]

You're not natural, youre clean. Big difference.

[GroinkTropin]

You're not natural, youre clean. Big difference.

Yes and no. I trained totally natural for 8 years completely dedicated, the muscle I carry now is that base. I do not carry any bulk from the gear I have taken. Nothing really worked well for me, I fucking got FAT on tren for fucks sake. I won't say I am lifetime natty but I am certainly not some juicehead who is trying to compete between cycles or something.

[Schmoe Buster]

how would we know you will be clean, probably just juice and lie about like all the other ''natural'' wonders, skip,o'hearn,willet,swampi,kiyooshi etc, all homo's

[GroinkTropin]

how would we know you will be clean, probably just juice and lie about like all the other ''natural'' wonders, skip,o'hearn,willet,swampi,kiyooshi etc, all homo's

GH15 will obviously KNOW right? And plus I am a poor student, I don't have the money for shit. I can barely eat let alone run anything. And last (and most obvious) WHAT would I really have to gain by lying? I do not see your logic.

[Lord of the Roidz]

. Dnp helped take care of that last summer though. 

If you took that DNP crap, then you're dumber than anyone who does gear. Only an idiot would put that toxic shit into their body. You probably cooked you're brain stem...that's why you think you can turn pro without juice.

[wes mantooth]

I wanna be on the first page of this thread. 2011 has already had some fantastic topics....

So let me get this straight:

1) youre 30
2) havent trained in 4 years
3) still in school
4) self proclaimed "poor", so you cant afford proper nutrition
5) tren made you fat
6) plan on getting your pro card naturally in 3 years

seems easy enough to me.

Perhaps you should set your sights on something you might be able to attain a little easier....like...becomin g a fighter pilot super spy, or maybe an astronaut cage fighter....

[DPump]

Lets see pics

[wes mantooth]

Lets see pics

yes, i want to see this gifted genetic beast!

Sounds like someone is drunk, on their parents laptop, and trying to think of "awesome" new years resolutions 3 days too late

[Schmoe Buster]

GH15 will obviously KNOW right? And plus I am a poor student, I don't have the money for shit. I can barely eat let alone run anything. And last (and most obvious) WHAT would I really have to gain by lying? I do not see your logic.

A 30 year old without enough money to eat right and you are going for a pro card without using gear lord of roidz is right that DNP cooked your brain

[Krankenstein]

GH15 will obviously KNOW right? And plus I am a poor student, I don't have the money for shit. I can barely eat let alone run anything. And last (and most obvious) WHAT would I really have to gain by lying? I do not see your logic.

If you do not have money for shit, why spend money on getting your pro card.  Fuck GH15guysonmycockG4p..... .I got my pro card lifetime drug fre....no matter what fucktard on here might say.  I spent a lot of money doing shows...and for what?  So I could place 4th in my last show...one spot away from getting......wait for it......$200??   That was what I paid for my entrance fee and drug test.  Fuck doing shows.  Seriously.  Spend your money on something more worthwhile....buy some equipment for your house....take a lady to dinner.....etc.  

[Master Blaster]

this is going to be epic 

[GroinkTropin]

I should have been more clear- I meant I have taken about 4 years off in total over the 14 I have been training. If I say I have been training 14 years straight that is a lie and I do not look as good as I should. I won't fluff myself up, I look ok pretty soft but base is there. I can see my abs, upper body has some definition quads are soft but I have a good split between hams/quads from the side. Calves are great as always (haven't trained them in at least 6 years).

I am poor meaning I have no income but student loans and grants. I can afford to eat very well actually. It's finding the time to train that I have a hard time with. I have an 18 unit semester coming up and just finished one. Wasn't fun.

I am not claiming to be Ronnie Coleman but my genetics are pretty damn good- wide shoulders small waist big calves and arms, back best bodypart etc. I have the tools, I have just been lazy as fuck. I believe I can definitely make something happen but I need something behind me, this thread should be a good kick in the ass.

The dnp I ran low dose 250mgs a day for 10 days, thats nothing. Anyone who claims this has "fried my brain stem" does not understand dnp nor simple human physiology. Try reading, it might help.

[DK II]

A 30 year old without enough money to eat right and you are going for a pro card without using gear lord of roidz is right that DNP cooked your brain

If anything, he should put the little money he has into gear, this way he can make much better use of the protein he takes.

 

I wanna be on the first page of this thread. 2011 has already had some fantastic topics....

So let me get this straight:

1) youre 30
2) havent trained in 4 years
3) still in school
4) self proclaimed "poor", so you cant afford proper nutrition
5) tren made you fat
6) plan on getting your pro card naturally in 3 years

seems easy enough to me.

Perhaps you should set your sights on something you might be able to attain a little easier....like...becomin g a fighter pilot super spy, or maybe an astronaut cage fighter....

LOL, spot on.

[GroinkTropin]

If you do not have money for shit, why spend money on getting your pro card.  Fuck GH15guysonmycockG4p..... .I got my pro card lifetime drug fre....no matter what fucktard on here might say.  I spent a lot of money doing shows...and for what?  So I could place 4th in my last show...one spot away from getting......wait for it......$200??   That was what I paid for my entrance fee and drug test.  Fuck doing shows.  Seriously.  Spend your money on something more worthwhile....buy some equipment for your house....take a lady to dinner.....etc.  

I have my reasons. I feel ashamed I never took bodybuilding further- I was born to do it. I have really been squandering my potential and decided I want to do something now before I get too old. I know if I train for myself I will get lazy and fall off again, hopefully this will keep me consistent. I may try and fall short and discover I am not as great as I thought I was but that is ok, it beats getting old and always wondering what if. Congrats on getting your card. I am not doing this for money.

[GroinkTropin]

Also I will use some supps but only the two that work for me- regular old creatine mono and protein. Not sure what powder yet, I bloat on most wheys. Some type of isolate if I can afford it. Nothing else though. I do not believe in supps to be honest. Food is where it's at.

[Wiggs]

Post pictures

[GroinkTropin]

Post pictures

You guys can take your pick on this one. I am white as fuck with no tan. Give me some shots to go for and what lighting will actually look decent and I will. No homo ass crack shots, though I will show my legs and what have you.

[Master Blaster]

I have my reasons. I feel ashamed I never took bodybuilding further- I was born to do it. I have really been squandering my potential and decided I want to do something now before I get too old. I know if I train for myself I will get lazy and fall off again, hopefully this will keep me consistent. I may try and fall short and discover I am not as great as I thought I was but that is ok, it beats getting old and always wondering what if. Congrats on getting your card. I am not doing this for money.

Are you high or drunk right now? Not an insult, just curious. Any blows to the head?

Have you ever suffered from a concussion? Do you find it difficult to maintain an erection? Frequent urination, or blurred vision?

[wes mantooth]

You guys can take your pick on this one. I am white as fuck with no tan. Give me some shots to go for and what lighting will actually look decent and I will. No homo ass crack shots, though I will show my legs and what have you.

maybe one of you in the kitchen...like the pros do...with good lighting.....





















lightly nibbling on a banana?

just thinking out loud.

no matter what "pose" you decide...im sure Ill like it!

[Wiggs]

You guys can take your pick on this one. I am white as fuck with no tan. Give me some shots to go for and what lighting will actually look decent and I will. No homo ass crack shots, though I will show my legs and what have you.

Don't care.  Mandatory poses.  front double bi, side chest, side tricep, back double bi, back lat spread, front lat spread, ab and thigh.

[tbombz]

delusional

[GroinkTropin]

Don't care.  Mandatory poses.  front double bi, side chest, side tricep, back double bi, back lat spread, front lat spread, ab and thigh.

Will do. Also going to move this thread to the training section, I want this to be a more legitimate log than a flame infested thread (which it will always undoubtedly be).

[Schmoe Buster]

Will do. Also going to move this thread to the training section, I want this to be a more legitimate log than a flame infested thread (which it will always undoubtedly be).

what do you expect? you make this claim of what you are going to do and you cant take the flames your lack of toughness sickens me

[WillGrant]

Dude no disrespect to you but you posted some pics just recently correct ? if you are who I am thinking of then read the below.

delusional