Do you think Groink is natural?

[dj181]

Great post tbombz, and you are so very right. To the "average" and "normal" person, juiced up fellas are ridiculed and put down on a regular and consistant basis, by both males AND FEMALES.

[tbombz]

If he's natural and that size it has everything to do with his genetics...in addition to dietary habits.

i think yoru wrong on both of those counts. for one, goudy has kidney issues and has never eaten much protein. i think he gets 100g per day or less, if i recall correctly. for two, look at pictures of him as a kid that he posted. skinny geeky looking kid. and he is way bigger than his parents now too.

[The Showstoppa]

goudy is huge, and i believe he is natural for some reason, but i dont think it has anything to do with his genetics.

That statement makes absolutely zero sense. 

[tbombz]

That statement makes absolutely zero sense. 

consistant HEAVY training + belief in his own ability + goudy is a man of God. 

[The Showstoppa]

consistant HEAVY training + belief in his own ability + goudy is a man of God. 

Goudy has a great build no doubt, but without decent genetics he could lift heavy all he wants and it wouldn't matter.  You know this....

[Wiggs]

depends on the person. in the rare case of someone who is aware of the fact that its next to impossible to look like a bodybuilder without steroids, then they will be impressed with big muscles and low bodyfat on a juicer.

but in 90% of the people out there, who think that steroids are evil, only for cheaters, and magic drugs.. they will not think your impressive in the slightests, no matter how big or lean you are, if they know your ons steroids. they think " oh, its all fake, he didnt earn any of that, and i could look the same way in a month if i took steroids too"

 

Correct...so ignorance and jealousy....It's very humbling to a normal gym fella to be in the presence of someone so much physically superior than them...Their ego will go everywhere but where the truth is...Meanwhile their broad is thinking about being plowed by these superior beasts while they're busy hating...
I disagree, deep down they are impressed but will NEVER show it....EGO.

[OneMoreRep]

That statement makes absolutely zero sense. 

x2.

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[Wiggs]

consistant HEAVY training + belief in his own ability + goudy is a man of God.  

put the bong down....It's genetics...No psedo-science BS...Of course heavy training...You can heavy train all day long but if you don't have the genetics to be big and you're natural you won't be big.

[tbombz]

Goudy has a great build no doubt, but without decent genetics he could lift heavy all he wants and it wouldn't matter.  You know this....

nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.

Correct...so ignorance and jealousy....It's very humbling to a normal gym fella to be in the presence of some so much physically superior than them...They're ego will go everywhere but where the truth is...Meanwhile their broad is thinking about being plowed by these superior beasts while they're busy hating...
I disagree, deep down they are impressed but will NEVER show it....EGO.

broads are niave, id say about 50% or more of them would become turned off once they found out the bigger guys was on juice.

[coltrane]

To show a picture of some dude that has a relatively high bf percentage and ask if he's natural or not is a lousy question. 

Post a pic of him dieted down.  Then we'll be able to tell yes or no.

[The Showstoppa]

nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.

 

But you are missing the point....without decent genetics you couldn't move "heavy weights" and get bigger.

[Wiggs]

nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.

broads are niave, id say about 50% or more of them would become turned off once they found out the bigger guys was on juice.

What's your point?  They liked the size just not how he got it.
Of course...broads are willing to spend the money, then get pissed when they found out what you did to get it...take it away and all of a sudden they don't care that much anymore...


About your first statement...ummmmmm no...Heavy weights equal BIGGER muscles...not Big muscles without hormones....and yes, genetics is everything when you're not juicing.  You'd be a fool to believe otherwise.

[tbombz]

anybody who can lift as much as goudy can will be pretty fucking big. not ifbb/top npc size muscles, but real big muscles nonetheless.

[kiwiol]

nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.

Retarded post.

If you or a guy like Deicide lifted the weight Goudy lifts (which you can't, because your strength also boils down to genetics), neither of you will be as big as Goudy.

That's why there is only one Dorian Yates and one Ronnie Coleman, even though there are many bodybuilders out there who can lift what they can or more. Are you saying if someone did what Dorian did for calves, they'd have the same size calves as him?

[tbombz]

Retarded post.

If you or a guy like Deicide lifted the weight Goudy lifts (which you can't, because your strength also boils down to genetics), neither of you will be as big as Goudy.

That's why there is only one Dorian Yates and one Ronnie Coleman, even though there are many bodybuilders out there who can lift what they can or more.

  where did i say that two guys of equal strength will have equal muscle size?

once again your efforts at appearing intelligent have failed

[Wiggs]

anybody who can lift as much as goudy can will be pretty fucking big. not ifbb/top npc size muscles, but real big muscles nonetheless.

Define "real big muscles"...At this point for me real big muscles is different for me than a new gym rat.  What is pretty fucking big? 

[tbombz]

Define "real big muscles"...At this point for me real big muscles is different for me than a new gym rat.  What is pretty fucking big? 

true. "real big muscles"=big enough so that people can tell you lift heavy weights.

[225for70]

Define "real big muscles"...At this point for me real big muscles is different for me than a new gym rat.  What is pretty fucking big?  

Tdizzle's Dome piece (head) is fucking huge.. Steroids made his head grow exponentially...His muscles not so much..


Tbombz will look like jay cutler soon, without the muscles..Not hating BTW..

[kiwiol]

  where did i say that two guys of equal strength will have equal muscle size?

Not everyone can be as strong as Goudy and even if they are, they are not going to be as big. You are saying everyone who lifts big weights is going to be big, but that's not correct.

There are lightweight powerlifters who lift more than Goudy, but aren't anywhere near as big, let alone bigger. Your size and strength are limited by your genetics, which means some people will be better than the majority.

[tbombz]

You are saying everyone who lifts big weights is going to be big, but that's not correct.

yes it is. use common sense here. not everybody who lifts big weights will be massive. but they will be big enough to lift big weights.  its as simple as that (strength is equal to size of muscle)

[kiwiol]

not everybody who lifts big weights will be massive. but they will be big enough to lift big weights. 

In light of this stunning conclusion, you shall henceforth be known as

[225for70]

yes it is. use common sense here. not everybody who lifts big weights will be massive. but they will be big enough to lift big weights.   its as simple as that (strength is equal to size of muscle)

Damn bro, you get some ugly ass chicks...No haterade drinker

You were better looking when you were younger. I think it's time you stop using steriods. Your a non-responder...Your just making your cranium bigger at this point.

[chaos]

I believe Goudy is all natural, dudes like 6'3 or 6'4 and only like 240 right?

Plus I think he's got small joints so he looks bigger than he is.

All around good guy, what's the fuckin problem here?

[kiwiol]

But you are missing the point....without decent genetics you couldn't move "heavy weights" and get bigger.

True and even if you had the genetics for strength, it doesn't necessarily mean you have the genetics for size. Case in point, bantamweight and lightweight bodybuilders who can lift as much (or more) as the heavyweight bodybuilders, but aren't anywhere near as big as the latter, even though they may be of the same height and on the same drug stack.

Tbombz started out by saying everyone can get big like Goudy if they lift big weights, genetics or no genetics, and then changed it to "big as in big enough to look like they lift", which isn't really saying anything, lol.

[The Showstoppa]

True and even if you had the genetics for strength, it doesn't necessarily mean you have the genetics for size. Case in point, bantamweight and lightweight bodybuilders who can lift as much (or more) as the heavyweight bodybuilders, but aren't anywhere near as big as the latter, even though they may be of the same height and on the same drug stack.

Tbombz started out by saying everyone can get big like Goudy if they lift big weights, genetics or no genetics, and then changed it to "big as in big enough to look like they lift", which isn't really saying anything, lol.

All true.  My old gym, one of the strongest guys there really only looked very avg as far as "size of muscles" and there were a couple of other guys who were huge, but very avg strength.