Author Topic: do Deadlifts make you shorter? (Read 18041 times)

JOHN MATRIX · « **on:** January 07, 2011, 10:30:40 AM »

ive read many things about Deads over the years that make them seem unique among lifts; supposedly they increase your natural growth hormone output, improve muscle tone all over the body, greatly improve overall strength, and also bad things like they temporarily weaken your CNS or something like that...and i have to wonder ....do they make you shorter over time?

dj181 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2011, 10:35:52 AM »

Well man, they basically work ALL the backside of your body, from hamstrings to traps, especially if you do the stiff-leg style. If you do conventional, you also get a bit of quad work as well, but not so much quad work.

Master Blaster · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2011, 10:59:55 AM »

I recomend Romanian Deadlifts, basically a semi-straight leg deadlift. Uses the quads just a tiny bit.

dj181 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:02:33 AM »

So what's the diff btw romanian deads and stiff-leg deads?

Tito24 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:08:21 AM »

romanian deads are with stones on each side.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:08:56 AM »

Quote from: dj181 on January 07, 2011, 11:02:33 AM

So what's the diff btw romanian deads and stiff-leg deads?

I think with Sevastase deadlifts you flex your knees a bit. Stiff-legged are supposed to be truly straight-kneed and are mostly a ham/glute exercise.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/RomanianDeadlift.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/BBStraightLegDeadlift.html

dj181 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:18:08 AM »

Do you really think that stiff deads (lol at stiff deads) are mainly directed at the glutes/hams? I think that after on passes the 2/3 mark of the lift that the lats and traps really come into play. And I hear ya Tito ma man! Maybe yo fellow countrymen Mr. Ted Van Der Parr knows a thing or 2 bout deads

All the way badass dude right there

Tito24 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:19:40 AM »

Quote from: Tito24 on January 07, 2011, 11:08:21 AM

romanian deads are with stones on each side.

haha.

dj181 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:21:15 AM »

Hoosvelt stones?

tbombz · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:34:44 AM »

bottom 1/3rd of the movement is all legs. do deads in a rack to isolate upper body (back,traps, rear delts)

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:46:11 AM »

but do you guys think they have any effect on your height?

Master Blaster · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2011, 11:47:44 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on January 07, 2011, 11:34:44 AM

bottom 1/3rd of the movement is all legs. do deads in a rack to isolate upper body (back,traps, rear delts)

Maybe I'll try that, but I would want to still do both.

mass243 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:02:59 PM »

Ask Ronnie... deads for sure did something to him...

dj181 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:06:32 PM »

Serious question, where is the ideal range to work on da sexual thrusting power

Is it the middle part? We all know dat sexual pumping power be coming for da ass

I will be honest, this is THE ONLY REASON why I do this exercise

haider · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:07:28 PM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on January 07, 2011, 11:08:56 AM

I think with Sevastase deadlifts you flex your knees a bit. Stiff-legged are supposed to be truly straight-kneed and are mostly a ham/glute exercise.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/RomanianDeadlift.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/BBStraightLegDeadlift.html

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:08:55 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on January 07, 2011, 11:34:44 AM

bottom 1/3rd of the movement is all legs. do deads in a rack to isolate upper body (back,traps, rear delts)

Agreed.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:16:38 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on January 07, 2011, 11:34:44 AM

bottom 1/3rd of the movement is all legs. do deads in a rack to isolate upper body (back,traps, rear delts)

Glutes, quads and hamstrings work hard at the bottom, but so do abs, and lower and upper back (I believe there is not much change in the upper back activation during the movement).

Quote from: JOHN MATRIX on January 07, 2011, 10:30:40 AM

ive read many things about Deads over the years that make them seem unique among lifts; supposedly they increase your natural growth hormone output, improve muscle tone all over the body, greatly improve overall strength, and also bad things like they temporarily weaken your CNS or something like that...and i have to wonder ....do they make you shorter over time?

If deadlift makes you shorter, than any exercise with loading on the spine does it too. I don't believe it. Natural growth hormone output increase is very minor or nonexistant. Deadlift works for a lot of things because it's a big movement, like fat loss, for aerobic training, and yeah it can make very many muscles strong. Deadlift is very hard on the body. Many powerlifters deadlift every 2nd or 4th week only. Because of these big demands I would advocate light pull training, because this you can do often, but I believe it still has big benefits.

Tito24 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:19:12 PM »

deadlifts destroy the back

Nirvana · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:22:07 PM »

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:22:08 PM »

Quote from: Tito24 on January 07, 2011, 12:19:12 PM

deadlifts ~~destroy the back~~ make the back unbreakable.

There.

dj181 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:26:26 PM »

Good post klaus, but I disagree on quad involvement, even with conventional style. And yeah, you are right about powerlifters doing them very infrequently. In my own case, if I go more that 17 days without doing them, I get weaker, and my strength regresses.

Master Blaster · « **Reply #21 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:29:20 PM »

A nice change of pace is doing them "raw". No belts, no straps, just you and the bar.

Tito24 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:31:29 PM »

yes, just you and barry..

gayer than protecting the civilians in a war zone.

Master Blaster · « **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:34:52 PM »

Quote from: Tito24 on January 07, 2011, 12:31:29 PM

yes, just you and barry..

gayer than protecting the civilians in a war zone.

Gayer than fishing for change in a condom dispenser.

Tito24 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:35:34 PM »

gayer than not beating up a woman