How do you see "intramuscular fat" ?

[suckmymuscle]

Now the english language is not enough to describe it visually!?

You have given the best explanation on "density" till now but still haven't shown me how to see it visually

  You see it by the following: the amount of space between fibers. When a bodybuilder contracts the muscle, if you can see the individual fibers, then the muscle is not very dense. If you can see some of the fiibers but not all, then the density is greater. If you can barely see a fiber and the muscle looks like a block with no lines in it(the lines being the separations between fibers), then the muscle is very dense. Dorian Yates, Mentzer, Robby Robinson, Branch Warren, Danny Padilla, Johhny Fuller, are all examples of bodybuilders with great muscular density.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Shockwave]

OK a couple questions

Can you differentiate between

a) person who has no bodyfat and dry

b) person who has no body fat and dry and no intramuscular fat (dense)

How? And please ND don't post that pic of coleman where he is obviously fatter and watery compared to the other.

To me it still sounds bullshit, much like the old "you had to see it, pictures don't show it" kinda thing.

Ronnie 96 Ab n thigh vs Ronnie 98 Ab n Thigh (ND has these pics, I dont). His IM fat is lower, as you can see the feathered striations in his leg. His SC fat and water is higher, as the separation between his muscles is not as clear, but in 98, he is DRY as fuck and shredded, yet his leg striations disappeared, from IM fat.

[dyslexic]

So, would a dirtbag wanna be bodybuilder with more "intra-muscular fat" be less expensive for his bitch boyfriend to support financially?

[Devon97]

Density is one of those words in bodybuilding that has completely lost its original meaning,  like "symmetry" before it

Very true.

YOu left out "muscle maturity" though

[Nirvana]

what does density and condition and proportions have to do with bodybuilding?

[dyslexic]

what does density and condition and proportions have to do with bodybuilding?

"Do"...

[suckmymuscle]

  Xerxes, I offered you a perfectly good explanation of what density is and how to identify it, but you don't want to listen.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Jaime]

 You see it by the following: the amount of space between fibers. When a bodybuilder contracts the muscle, if you can see the individual fibers, then the muscle is not very dense. If you can see some of the fiibers but not all, then the density is greater. If you can barely see a fiber and the muscle looks like a block with no lines in it(the lines being the separations between fibers), then the muscle is very dense. Dorian Yates, Mentzer, Robby Robinson, Branch Warren, Danny Padilla, Johhny Fuller, are all examples of bodybuilders with great muscular density.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I don't entirely follow. Do you have any pictures that exemplify what you are referring to?

I'm sort of confusing seeing fibers for grainy in my mind, but thats a contradiction so that can't be what you are referencing.

[suckmymuscle]

I don't entirely follow. Do you have any pictures that exemplify what you are referring to?

I'm sort of confusing seeing fibers for grainy in my mind, but thats a contradiction so that can't be what you are referencing.

  When a bodybuilder is dense, you do not see the individual fibers: you see bundles of fibers or if the bodybuilder is really dense you cannot see any lines on the muscle because the lines are the separations between fibers and when the fibers are close to each other the space between them is imperceptible.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Flexb]

So now density = thickness all of a sudden  

Fucking useless bullshit pseudoknowledge term

Density definition:

Having relatively high density; Compact; crowded together; Thick; difficult to penetrate; Opaque; allowing little light to pass through; Obscure, or difficult to understand; Of a person, slow to comprehend; of low intelligence

You guys define the latter part