congresswoman/judge shot in Arizona

[Hugo Chavez]

Bro i agree he seems whacked but as someone who has studied psychology its not that easy man this dude could be totally sane to be honest.

I agree this guy should be put down like the cancer he is

and do a search of this dude bro, its obvious that the left is trying very very hard to pin him as a right wing nut job....like ive said multiple time none of it matters b/c he seems psycho but if all that has come out is true he is a liberal...

its important b/c there are ppl out there that will try to pin this on palin, beck, oreilly etc...and it needs to be shown this isnt true...

yea, I said it was wrong for the left to pin it on the right.  Hell they did so even before we leared who the shooter was!!!!  That doesn't make it ok to pin it on the left once it's clear how insane he is.  And this guy is insane.  You can't read his writing and come to any other conclusion.  That is seriously some of the most bizare shit I've ever read.  It's at least so strange that it should be clear to even those who hate the left that nobody on the left can connect to what this guy's ideas.  Liberals are reading this guy's crap and scratching their heads too lol...

Let's look at a few things here:
1. The guy campaigned for the congresswoman, then later turned against her.
2. He talked about the need to have currency backed by gold and silver, the main voice of that idea comes from libertarians and ron paul followers along with some tea party folks.  It doesn't come from the left.
3.  The guy also mentioned mein kampf, a favorite work in some extreme far right circles.

What's that all mean?  Nothing...  The guy is fucking insane.  It would be stupid to attempt to use those things against the right or Ron Paul.  The one thing that becomes clear in reading what he wrote is that he took EVERYTHING he read and applied his own extremely bizare interpretation to it.  One that neither the left or right can identify with.  With that being the case, there is no point in pinning his actions on either the left or right in this case.

[tonymctones]

yea, I said it was wrong for the left to pin it on the right.  Hell they did so even before we leared who the shooter was!!!!  That doesn't make it ok to pin it on the left once it's clear how insane he is.  And this guy is insane.  You can't read his writing and come to any other conclusion.  That is seriously some of the most bizare shit I've ever read.  It's at least so strange that it should be clear to even those who hate the left that nobody on the left can connect to what this guy's ideas.  Liberals are reading this guy's crap and scratching their heads too lol...

Let's look at a few things here:
1. The guy campaigned for the congresswoman, then later turned against her.
2. He talked about the need to have currency backed by gold and silver, the main voice of that idea comes from libertarians and ron paul followers along with some tea party folks.  It doesn't come from the left.
3.  The guy also mentioned mein kampf, a favorite work in some extreme far right circles.

What's that all mean?  Nothing...  The guy is fucking insane.  It would be stupid to attempt to use those things against the right or Ron Paul.  The one thing that becomes clear in reading what he wrote is that he took EVERYTHING he read and applied his own extremely bizare interpretation to it.  One that neither the left or right can identify with.  With that being the case, there is no point in pinning his actions on either the left or right in this case.

did you read the post supposedly from him, about her voting against pelosi?

mein kampf is also a socialist book as well, communist manifesto....

I agree bro and like I said, its important though b/c you are going to have a push and a big one by certain parties mainly on the left to push this on the right as it always happens with incidents such as this...so the facts need to come out

I honestly dont know if he is insane bro, after looking at the stuff him supposedly telling his friends not to be mad etc...I think he may just be a weird fucker and not insane...maybe a sociopath instead of a psychopath...

[tonymctones]

look at any of the shit out there by the AP hugo, i know you disagree with it but this is the reason why ppl are fighting to show he is a liberal...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_politics_threats_analysis

no where in this article about the toxic atmosphere in politics does it mention pelosi referring to tea party activist nazi's, obama calling reps the enemy or terrorists/hostage takers...

but it sure does mention palin and the tea party...

 

[tonymctones]

supposedly looking for a 2nd suspect, a white male in his 50's...

[Hugo Chavez]

did you read the post supposedly from him, about her voting against pelosi?

mein kampf is also a socialist book as well, communist manifesto....

I agree bro and like I said, its important though b/c you are going to have a push and a big one by certain parties mainly on the left to push this on the right as it always happens with incidents such as this...so the facts need to come out

I honestly dont know if he is insane bro, after looking at the stuff him supposedly telling his friends not to be mad etc...I think he may just be a weird fucker and not insane...maybe a sociopath instead of a psychopath...

1st... I'm equally against the left blaming the right as I am about the right blaming the left.  It's fucking stupid in this case.

2nd... Read this entire thing especially to the end and tell me this is not from an insane person.  This my friend is highly delusional, not just weird:

"If there's no flag in the constitution then the flag in the film is unknown.
There's no flag in the constitution.
Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown.
Burn every new and old flag that you see.
Burn your flag!
I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed.
Watch this protest in reverse!
Ask the local police; "What's your illegal activity on duty?".
If you protest the government then there's a new government from protesting.
There's not a new government from protesting.
Thus, you aren't protesting the government.
There's something important in this video: There's no communication to anyone in this location.
You shouldn't be afraid of the stars.
There's a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government?
I want you to imagine a comet or meteoroid coming through the atmosphere.
On the other hand, welcome yourself to the desert: Maybe your ability to protest is from the brainwash of the current g"

[tonymctones]

random ramblings dont really mean to much, he apparently apologized or told his friends to not be mad today before going to carry this out...

that shows that it was premeditated and that he had a conscious understanding of what he was going to do and how it would be percieved negatively...

this guy seems sane to me to be honest

the ramblings could be his moronic way of trying to be creative and unique...

ever read one of johnny falcons posts? same shit the guy is a moron but he isnt insane

[Hugo Chavez]

look at any of the shit out there by the AP hugo, i know you disagree with it but this is the reason why ppl are fighting to show he is a liberal...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_politics_threats_analysis

no where in this article about the toxic atmosphere in politics does it mention pelosi referring to tea party activist nazi's, obama calling reps the enemy or terrorists/hostage takers...

but it sure does mention palin and the tea party...

 

Tony, I probably read more on this today than anybody out there.  I was glued to every story coming in on a live feed.  I saw all of the stories blaming the right and I have expressed that I think it was stupid.  The best thing to do in this case is to do what I'm doing and denounce it all on both sides.  Especially in this case.  The guy's thought patterns are neither left or right, they're fucked in the head insane.

[Hugo Chavez]

random ramblings dont really mean to much, he apparently apologized or told his friends to not be mad today before going to carry this out...

that shows that it was premeditated and that he had a conscious understanding of what he was going to do and how it would be percieved negatively...

this guy seems sane to me to be honest

the ramblings could be his moronic way of trying to be creative and unique...

ever read one of johnny falcons posts? same shit the guy is a moron but he isnt insane

 I'm done... If you think that's the ramblings of a sane man, we have nothing else to talk about   Have fun in your venture to pin this guy's deeds on the left

[tonymctones]

 I'm done... If you think that's the ramblings of a sane man, we have nothing else to talk about

im not saying he is sane brosky but its definitely a possibility to be honest...

lol nothing to get upset over man, whatever though im out for the night

[Fury]

When the president of this country is calling the other party terrorists because they're not in line with his agenda I can't help but wonder why this hasn't happened sooner.

That said, his rantings don't really seem much different from some of the people on here. I wonder how close SamsonEnterprises is to picking up a gun. I honestly can't tell the difference between her and this guy. 

[Hugo Chavez]

im not saying he is sane brosky but its definitely a possibility to be honest...

lol nothing to get upset over man, whatever though im out for the night

I'm not upset.  It's just that there's nothing left to talk about if you think that guy is sane. If you think he is sane, then that opens it up to play the blame game.  I can't read what he wrote and see anything but pure bizare insanity so we have nowhere to go in debating this.  You can go on and blame the left and I'll just roll my eyes and move on lol...  not pissed, just nowhere to go considering he might be sane. 

The guy wasn't joking around or just being weird writing this stuff.  This is stuff he believed and was trying to express so much that he ended up killing people as his exclamation mark to his beliefs.  Beliefs that I will add once again are so strange they have everyone right and left scratching their heads.  That is a major point; nobody is reading this guys words and finding some ideology to connect with or even understand lol...  That alone should make it apparent that it's stupid to blame either the left or right for what this guy did.

[tonymctones]

I'm not upset.  It's just that there's nothing left to talk about if you think that guy is sane. If you think he is sane, then that opens it up to play the blame game.  I can't read what he wrote and see anything but pure bizare insanity so we have nowhere to go in debating this.  You can go on and blame the left and I'll just roll my eyes and move on lol...  not pissed, just nowhere to go considering he might be sane. 

The guy wasn't joking around or just being weird writing this stuff.  This is stuff he believed and was trying to express so much that he ended up killing people as his exclamation mark to his beliefs.  Beliefs that I will add once again are so strange they have everyone right and left scratching their heads.  That is a major point; nobody is reading this guys words and finding some ideology to connect with or even understand lol...  That alone should make it apparent that it's stupid to blame either the left or right for what this guy did.

I disagree even if he is sane there is still nobody to blame but him

Google blueboy dailykos and read those post supposedly thats him and some are perfectly coherent

[Fury]

I'm not upset.  It's just that there's nothing left to talk about if you think that guy is sane. If you think he is sane, then that opens it up to play the blame game.  I can't read what he wrote and see anything but pure bizare insanity so we have nowhere to go in debating this.  You can go on and blame the left and I'll just roll my eyes and move on lol...  not pissed, just nowhere to go considering he might be sane.  

The guy wasn't joking around or just being weird writing this stuff.  This is stuff he believed and was trying to express so much that he ended up killing people as his exclamation mark to his beliefs.  Beliefs that I will add once again are so strange they have everyone right and left scratching their heads.  That is a major point; nobody is reading this guys words and finding some ideology to connect with or even understand lol...  That alone should make it apparent that it's stupid to blame either the left or right for what this guy did.

The reason the blame game is being played can be directly attributed to the leftists and the liberal MSM. Before they even had this guy identified they were all screaming about Palin and right-wing this and right-wing that. Just read the stickied thread on it and you'll see 240 as well as some others wasted no time jumping right on that train. It's not surprising that the right-wing fired back when stuff came out pointing towards this guy having liberal ties.

Whether he is or isn't I don't know. But the left should hold themselves accountable for starting this blame game shit. So quick to vilify the right that they start their rantings before the guy was even ID'ed.

[Hugo Chavez]

When the president of this country is calling the other party terrorists because they're not in line with his agenda I can't help but wonder why this hasn't happened sooner.

That said, his rantings don't really seem much different from some of the people on here. I wonder how close SamsonEnterprises is to picking up a gun. I honestly can't tell the difference between her and this guy.  

really? lol...  Jag is disturbed.  She is a attention whore always seeking to glorify herself in some way.  She does give off this image that she's better and smarter than everyone else.  She is annoying as hell.  She seems quite willing to put her own interests above all others.  She has some bizare compulsion to make everyone believe she is best buddies with every big star in holywood--annoying beyond belief.  And she gets downright nasty when upset.  But no way she is as loony as this guy imo...

[Hugo Chavez]

The reason the blame game is being played can be directly attributed to the leftists and the liberal MSM. Before they even had this guy identified they were all screaming about Palin and right-wing this and right-wing that. Just read the stickied thread on it and you'll see 240 as well as some others wasted no time jumping right on that train. It's not surprising that the right-wing fired back when stuff came out pointing towards this guy having liberal ties.

Whether he is or isn't I don't know. But the left should hold themselves accountable for starting this blame game shit. So quick to vilify the right that they start their rantings before the guy was even ID'ed.

same thing I said in several posts already and in this thread.  I agree, the left was stupid and wrong to jump so fast to blame the right on this.  You're right, the left jumped out of the gates first with this shit.  But I can't translate that to the right being correct in blaming the left for this guy being a complete nut.  All I can say is that the left was totally wrong and stupid to blame the right.  It especially looks bad when they did indeed blame the right even before we had the shooters name.

[whork25]

did you read the post supposedly from him, about her voting against pelosi?

mein kampf is also a socialist book as well, communist manifesto....

I agree bro and like I said, its important though b/c you are going to have a push and a big one by certain parties mainly on the left to push this on the right as it always happens with incidents such as this...so the facts need to come out

I honestly dont know if he is insane bro, after looking at the stuff him supposedly telling his friends not to be mad etc...I think he may just be a weird fucker and not insane...maybe a sociopath instead of a psychopath...

Mein Kampf is not a socialist/communist book its quite the opposite its a facist book....

[Hugo Chavez]

I disagree even if he is sane there is still nobody to blame but him

Google blueboy dailykos and read those post supposedly thats him and some are perfectly coherent

several accounts:

"Blue boy posted pretty quickly after the shooting, apparently he pulled his own article, and was in shock that someone shot the congresswoman. Not the same person."

"blueboy has been posting on kos after the incident so they are not the same"

"Blueboy has sent out a post tonight apologizing for his statements regarding Gillfords. I doubt the suspect has access to the Internet"

Blueboy is still posting online: http://www.blogula-rasa.com/2011/01/09/sometimes-a-nut-is-just-a-nut-but-probably-not-a-left-wing-nut/

"BoyBlue’s email says his name is Joey Stuart"

so much for sounding perfectly coherent lol

[Hedgehog]

Dangerous talk Hugo.

Let the institutions of democracy handle this.

If we don't we are truly doomed.

[Soul Crusher]

The blame palin/teaparty crap was started at left eing sites and parroted here as well.  It also was banged like a drum on the tv. 

If you go to du, nyt, wapo, etc they are in a frenzy blaming the right for this. 

Now that some of the facts on this freak are out, they still are trying that angle. 

This is no different than madcow blaming beck for the death of the census worker in kentucky.

Truly revolting that the far left is doing this AGAIN.   

[Hugo Chavez]

The blame palin/teaparty crap was started at left eing sites and parroted here as well.  It also was banged like a drum on the tv. 

If you go to du, nyt, wapo, etc they are in a frenzy blaming the right for this. 

Now that some of the facts on this freak are out, they still are trying that angle. 

This is no different than madcow blaming beck for the death of the census worker in kentucky.

Truly revolting that the far left is doing this AGAIN.   

I think I already said that.

[Hedgehog]

I get it. You wouldn't do it. I believe you no problem.

But it's exactly this type of rhetoric that I think is a waste. It only leads to more panic. When we need to keep things cool.

One thing worth noting in all of this sadness.

As a foreigner to USA, I can attest to that Americans do get stronger when there is a threat to the foundation of their freedom.

I think USA, and its citizens, will rise up and face this fucked up adversity.

[tonymctones]

several accounts:

"Blue boy posted pretty quickly after the shooting, apparently he pulled his own article, and was in shock that someone shot the congresswoman. Not the same person."

"blueboy has been posting on kos after the incident so they are not the same"

"Blueboy has sent out a post tonight apologizing for his statements regarding Gillfords. I doubt the suspect has access to the Internet"

Blueboy is still posting online: http://www.blogula-rasa.com/2011/01/09/sometimes-a-nut-is-just-a-nut-but-probably-not-a-left-wing-nut/

"BoyBlue’s email says his name is Joey Stuart"

so much for sounding perfectly coherent lol

again i said supposedly...there is still alot of misinfo coming out

brosky these ppl dont usually just go insane all at once, there is usually a bunch of incidents that you can point to before. Yes he has had behavioural problems(run ins with the law, getting kicked out of school) but those could be sociological problems, not psychological...

what weve based the psycho thing off of was the youtube clips which was all we had at the moment...

he also posted as I stated an apology and a request for his friends not to be mad, thats not really something a person who is LEGALLY insane would do...

[Hugo Chavez]

batshit crazy:

Is one of your favorite toys a remote control car?

If NASA creates a mars rover that communicates from mars then the signal reaches from the distance of mars.
The signal doesn’t reach from the distance of mars.
Nonetheless, NASA creates a mars rover that doesn’t communicate from mars.

If NASA communication signals reaches mars then NASA communication signal from the mars rover.
The NASA communication signals reaches mars
Therefore, NASA communication signals from the mars rover.

If the pictures are from mars then the mars rover is on mars.
The Mars rover is not on mars.
Therefore, the pictures are not from mars.

NASA creates a remote control rover that is impossible to reach mars.
NASA fakes the situation they plan with the mars rover.
Therefore, NASA creates a remote control rover that’s impossible to reach mars and fakes the situation they plan with the mars rover.

NASA sends the the Mars Rover to mars with communication or NASA fakes the situation.
NASA didn’t send the Mars Rover to mars with communication.
Therefore, NASA fakes the situation.

If the mars rover lands on mars with communication then NASA sent the Mars Rover to mars.
The mars rover lands on mars with communication.
Therefore, NASA sent the mars rover to mars with communication.

The distance from earth and mars is about 33,926,867.1 miles.
The distance from earth and mars changes.

Think about how NASA sends the mars rover
Think about how NASA is able to communicate from that distance.

[Hugo Chavez]

mega batshit

What is wrong or right with the current date?

How is the current date right or wrong?

Why is or isn't this the date?

When is or isn't the date ending or beginning?

Today is July 7th 2010.

Why is the year infinite in the date?

Example:
Today is July 7th 201062010654843578465784 151015954324841895498201 065484357846578415101595 432484189549820106548435 784657841510159543248418 954982010654843578465784 151015 954324841895498201065484 357846578415101595432484 189549820106548435784657 841510159543248418954982 010654843578465784151015 954324841895498201065484 357846 578415101595432484189549 820106548435784657841510 159543248418954982010654 843578465784151015954324 841895498201065484357846 578415101595432484189549 820106 548435784657841510159543 248418954982010654843578 465784151015954324841895 498201065484357846578415 101595432484189549820106 548435784657841510159543 248418 954982010654843578465784 151015954324841895498201 065484357846578415101595 432484189549820106548435 784657841510159543248418 954982010654843578465784 151015 954324841895498201065484 357846578415101595432484 189549820106548435784657 841510159543248418954982 010654843578465784151015 954324841895498548435784 657841 51015954324841895498

This will or will not continue in year for how long?


What are the viewers thoughts of a infinite year?


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If the date is infinite in year then there’s an argument on any year.

The date is infinite in year.

Therefore, there’s an argument on any year


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Are you going to tell me that its hard to make a compound-complex sentence?

Ha! You can't fool me with grammar mind games.

How did B.C. end in year for the start of A.D.?

If A.D. is ending then the year is finite.
The year is not finite.
Therefore, A.D. is not ending.

If the year is finite then the calender is at limit in years.
The calendar is not at a limit in years.
Therefore, The year is not finite.

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The time being arbitrary isn't true.
I don't think humans are winging it.

You either accept the infinite year or you don't.

If you don't accept the infinite year then you'll never accept it.

Are you not afraid of an infinite year?
What a horror to understand for the future generations!


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I notice for some currency's the date is printed on them.
What a sad day to see the whole currency being filled with the date.

I couldn't accept a finite date because of the obvious proof that is presented. Therefore, the date as infinite!

I know you believe the date is finite. But the population and other posters are accepting the date as infinite.


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For a birth and death certificate that is used in society!
For future or past planning of daily life!

Infinite: unlimited or unmeasurable in extent of space, duration of time, etc.: the infinite nature of outer space.

Year: A period of 365 or 366 days, in the Gregorian calendar, divided into 12 calendar months, now reckoned as beginning Jan. 1 and ending Dec. 31 (calendar year or civil year).

The year is currently 2010.

I purpose that this post can be looked at in the year 201023165748979874984540 195480654201023165748979 874564864086043504532012 310230123012312301231023 123125451651965415456196 520084056016218945198510 985124 061616630631305088996261 204350465049502601692034 045906130496032196034059 613049562031096430463041 209631209643509643504290 6312.0510684246243206005 942954 367456765564765446675367 436476586654967549654765 624326126564265624606446 561240685456584466486456 478646489824985642984546 029484604625467879583778 983579 837579873597035986739587 538674035671356547265440 763556470398577409358670 985779856789846799876499 745467652466243512465743 987465354679835467034782 516652 169834406983514709853610 793546709835406798354075 635167065356754798734565 498321567976134598724566 541954564234052435564245 084540195480654051489402 109051 489402109


The year shall never end!
The year shall never end!
The year shall never end!

[Hugo Chavez]

what the fuck?

Was one of your favorite toys a plastic NASA Space Shuttle?


If the design of the NASA Space Shuttle keeps the black body temperature of −454 °F from the outside orbit then the NASA Space Shuttle is at a temperature for human life.
The NASA Space Shuttle isn’t at a temperature for human life.
Hence, the design of the NASA Space Shuttle doesn’t keep the black body temperature of −454 °F from the outside orbit.

If the air supply supports the NASA Space Shuttle mission for the time in orbit then the crew is able to breathe with the correct amount of oxygen for the time in orbit.
The crew is not able to breathe with the correct amount of oxygen for the time in orbit.
Consequently, the air supply doesn’t support the NASA Space Shuttle mission for the time in orbit

If the crew of the NASA mission uses a green screen then they are able to fake the mission.
The crew of the NASA mission uses a green screen.
Therefore, they are able to fake the mission.

If the 0 gravity affects the human body then the crew is at risk for body failure.
The 0 gravity affects the human body.
Therefore, the crew is at risk for body failure.

If the NASA Space Shuttle is with a crew in orbit then they're able to perform the mission with the conditions in orbit.
They're not able to perform the mission with the conditions in orbit.
Thus, the NASA Space Shuttle isn’t with a crew in orbit.

If the NASA Space Shuttle is able to reenter from the orbit of the Earth then the NASA Space Shuttle is able to reenter because of the heat of 1,500 °C.
The NASA Space Shuttle isn’t able to reenter because of the heat of 1,500 °C.
Hence, the NASA Space Shuttle isn’t able to reenter the orbit of the Earth.

If the NASA Space Shuttle is able to reenter from the orbit of Earth then the NASA Space Shuttle is in orbit.
The NASA Space Shuttle isn’t in orbit.
Therefore, the NASA Space Shuttle isn’t able to reenter from the orbit of Earth.

If the force of entry into orbit is strong enough to cause death to a human body then there’s death to a human body in entry from earth to orbit.
The force of entry into orbit is strong enough to cause death to a human body.
Hence, there’s death to a human body in entry from earth to orbit.

If the force of reentry into orbit is strong enough to cause death to a human body then there’s death to a human body in reentry from earth to orbit.
The force of reentry into orbit is strong enough to cause death to a human body.
Hence, there’s death to a human body in reentry from earth to orbit.


Are you scared of what happens after ET separation?


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Your are miscreant with a reply of misconception!

I know you are ridicules for the attack of grammar.
This grammar problem might be true for you, but isn't true for me!

If the living space is able to maintain the crews life at a temperature of −454 °F then the human body is alive in the NASA Space Shuttle.
The human body isn't alive in the NASA Space Shuttle.
Thus, the living space isn't able to maintain the crews life at a temperature of −454 °F.