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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2011, 02:57:20 AM »
6'1" @ 7% with 21.75 inch arms fully pumped, so what would his arms measure cold on the first flex? FYI, nearly 40 years ago, Olivia's arms measured 20.25 inches cold, on the first flex, with ABSOLUTELY NO PUMP

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2011, 03:00:29 AM »
I actually appreciate shawn ray for the fact he had guts to shrink to a shit looking skinny fat, a shadow of his prime...you truly ned some cojones to go and interview current pros looking like an ordinary fat fella picked up from the street...i couldnt do that...i'm pretty damn sure i'm going to be "on" for the rest of my life...the more i have money the more i will be using...props for shawnie, "the uncrowned 94&97 mr olympia"!!!

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2011, 03:01:49 AM »
the two 6-1 guys with 21 ich arms i know
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both german both the greatest of their time


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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2011, 03:26:40 AM »
i was wearing here clothes on the way to go out ,,and i was thinking to myseflf i have to say this,, this is for my pupils ,,its out of class information

i do it only because i despeize liar priest so much,,

remember when liar priest come to you every tuesday and say he take 100mg trenolona one every 4 days,, or some infantil statment such as this,,
you fellas need to understand the severity of the lie you are being fed,,
and i want someone here to attach it to bible saying whenever you quote me on other boards,,when you throw stuff i say at other boards on their boards,,

WHEN LIAR PRIEST SAY HE TOOK 100MG EVERY 4 DAY OF TRENBOLONA ,,OR 5 DAY OR WHAYTEVER OTHE LIE HE SPIT,,HE RISK YOURSELF SO MUCH BY DEVELOPING TITTIES! ,,IM STANDING HERE DRESSING UP ANDI NEED TO LAUGH BUT I DONT,,BECAUSE LIAR PRIEST DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU TAKE SUCH A STRONG MUTATING DRUG A TRENBOLONA ,,THE PROGESTERONA AND ESTROGENA ASPECTS ARE GOING NUTS IN YOUR BODY IF YOU DONT DO IT ON VERY VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE,,MEANINNNNNNNG YOU NEED IT IN THE BLOOD CONSTANT EVERY DAY OR 2 ,,NO 4 NO 5 NO  NOTHING,,A DAY OR 2 CONSTANT DOSES ,,SIMILAR DOSES,,IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW IT ,,YOU WILL START FEELING SOMETHING COMING UP UNDER THE NIPPLE ,,HARD THAT HURT TO THE TOUCH ,, THIS SOMEHIN IS CALL A DEVELOPMENT OF GYNO,,ITS NTO FULLY GYNO ITS JUST HORMONAL IMBALANCE,,SO LIAR PRIEST IS FUCKING RISKING!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1000S OF INNOCENT BODYBUILDER WHO STARTED HORMONIZING THEMSELF WITH HIS SHIT,,HE DESERVE TO BE OUT OF BODYBUILDING ,,HE SHOULD NEVER SEE STAGE AGAIN ,,

I AM VERY VERY MAD AT THIS DWARF FOR THE LIES HE FEED YOU,,THIS IS JUST SOMETHIG I WAS THIKNING NOW WHEN I DRESS UP,,BUT THE SEVERITY OF THIS DRUG TRENBOLONA IF NOT TAKEN RIGHT ,,IS GREAT! IT WILL CREATE GYNO EVEN ON THE MOST TOUGHEST TITS OF YOU ALL,,IT WILL CREATE THIS HARDEN SURFACE THAT WILL NOT BREAK UNLESS YOU INJECT AGAIN TRENBOLONA SO THE HORMONE ANDROGEN IS BALANCE ITSELF OUT,,AND YES YOU CAN TAKE ANTI ESTROGEN AND AI AND EVEN  BROMO ANTI PROLACTIN BUT THOSE ARE NOT NESASERY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING,,WHICH IS EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE SHIT LIAR PRIEST SAY ,,

THAT FELLA NEED TO BE NEVER LET EVEN MARKET SUPPLEMENT IN THE LEGAL VENUE,,HE IS LETHAL

now let me go eat my meal
 

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2011, 03:31:19 AM »
i was wearing here clothes on the way to go out ,,and i was thinking to myseflf i have to say this,, this is for my pupils ,,its out of class information

i do it only because i despeize liar priest so much,,

remember when liar priest come to you every tuesday and say he take 100mg trenolona one every 4 days,, or some infantil statment such as this,,
you fellas need to understand the severity of the lie you are being fed,,
and i want someone here to attach it to bible saying whenever you quote me on other boards,,when you throw stuff i say at other boards on their boards,,

WHEN LIAR PRIEST SAY HE TOOK 100MG EVERY 4 DAY OF TRENBOLONA ,,OR 5 DAY OR WHAYTEVER OTHE LIE HE SPIT,,HE RISK YOURSELF SO MUCH BY DEVELOPING TITTIES! ,,IM STANDING HERE DRESSING UP ANDI NEED TO LAUGH BUT I DONT,,BECAUSE LIAR PRIEST DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU TAKE SUCH A STRONG MUTATING DRUG A TRENBOLONA ,,THE PROGESTERONA AND ESTROGENA ASPECTS ARE GOING NUTS IN YOUR BODY IF YOU DONT DO IT ON VERY VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE,,MEANINNNNNNNG YOU NEED IT IN THE BLOOD CONSTANT EVERY DAY OR 2 ,,NO 4 NO 5 NO  NOTHING,,A DAY OR 2 CONSTANT DOSES ,,SIMILAR DOSES,,IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW IT ,,YOU WILL START FEELING SOMETHING COMING UP UNDER THE NIPPLE ,,HARD THAT HURT TO THE TOUCH ,, THIS SOMEHIN IS CALL A DEVELOPMENT OF GYNO,,ITS NTO FULLY GYNO ITS JUST HORMONAL IMBALANCE,,SO LIAR PRIEST IS FUCKING RISKING!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1000S OF INNOCENT BODYBUILDER WHO STARTED HORMONIZING THEMSELF WITH HIS SHIT,,HE DESERVE TO BE OUT OF BODYBUILDING ,,HE SHOULD NEVER SEE STAGE AGAIN ,,

I AM VERY VERY MAD AT THIS DWARF FOR THE LIES HE FEED YOU,,THIS IS JUST SOMETHIG I WAS THIKNING NOW WHEN I DRESS UP,,BUT THE SEVERITY OF THIS DRUG TRENBOLONA IF NOT TAKEN RIGHT ,,IS GREAT! IT WILL CREATE GYNO EVEN ON THE MOST TOUGHEST TITS OF YOU ALL,,IT WILL CREATE THIS HARDEN SURFACE THAT WILL NOT BREAK UNLESS YOU INJECT AGAIN TRENBOLONA SO THE HORMONE ANDROGEN IS BALANCE ITSELF OUT,,AND YES YOU CAN TAKE ANTI ESTROGEN AND AI AND EVEN  BROMO ANTI PROLACTIN BUT THOSE ARE NOT NESASERY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING,,WHICH IS EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE SHIT LIAR PRIEST SAY ,,

THAT FELLA NEED TO BE NEVER LET EVEN MARKET SUPPLEMENT IN THE LEGAL VENUE,,HE IS LETHAL

now let me go eat my meal
 

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2011, 04:41:47 AM »
way to prove your point, posting a pic of the guy in his teens  ::)

My point, moron, was that by 93... the guy was an oil bag.

Like I said -

This is what his arms looked like in 92, pre oil.

By 93 his bi’s were oil bags; bulging balloons with a completely different shape and visible abscess in the right bi.


The pic I posted was from 92... by his next show, in 93, the guy was an oil bag that added 5+ (abnormally shaped) inches to his arms.. and they looked like balloons with visible abscess, lumps and bumps.

As demonstrated in the vids posted.. I guess you didn't watch them?

Let me illustrate my point -







The pics on the left are from 92... the pics on the right are from 93.

Get the picture?

By 93 his bi’s, tri’s and shoulders were full of a shit load of oil (especially the bi's).

And after 93?

Like I said -

After 93 he never looked back.


O I L B A G . . . just like the rest. They use that shit in ALL muscle groups.



Or.. Uh.. maybe you’re right. The guy magically added 5+ inches to his arms in between contests over a time span several months between 92 and 93 all due to his stellar genetics.

why is it that difficult to admit that some of these dudes actually are genectically gifted?














































 ::)

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2011, 04:51:37 AM »
8 months after his kidney transplant.


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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2011, 05:00:38 AM »
8 months after his kidney transplant.



and 7 months and 29 days after going back on the gear

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2011, 05:02:41 AM »
8 months after his kidney transplant.



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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2011, 05:37:02 AM »
8 months after his kidney transplant.



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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2011, 06:01:07 AM »
My point, moron, was that by 93... the guy was an oil bag.

Like I said -


The pic I posted was from 92... by his next show, in 93, the guy was an oil bag that added 5+ (abnormally shaped) inches to his arms.. and they looked like balloons with visible abscess, lumps and bumps.

As demonstrated in the vids posted.. I guess you didn't watch them?

Let me illustrate my point -







The pics on the left are from 92... the pics on the right are from 93.

Get the picture?

By 93 his bi’s, tri’s and shoulders were full of a shit load of oil (especially the bi's).

And after 93?

Like I said -



Or.. Uh.. maybe you’re right. The guy magically added 5+ inches to his arms in between contests over a time span several months between 92 and 93 all due to his stellar genetics.














































 ::)

Those pics show it...he was an oil bag.

bam bam don't be so naive.

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2011, 06:08:02 AM »
spot injections yes, but NOT synthol.

Marko said that he injected his anabolics in his bis and tris (3cc each) 30 minutes proir training.

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2011, 06:10:19 AM »
I've always liked this guy but his jawline is, well...  :-\

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2011, 08:01:57 AM »
I actually appreciate shawn ray for the fact he had guts to shrink to a shit looking skinny fat, a shadow of his prime...you truly ned some cojones to go and interview current pros looking like an ordinary fat fella picked up from the street...i couldnt do that...i'm pretty damn sure i'm going to be "on" for the rest of my life...the more i have money the more i will be using...props for shawnie, "the uncrowned 94&97 mr olympia"!!!

I DONT GET THAT...HES STILL YOUNGE AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT JUST TAKING A COUPLE ccs of test and a cc or 2 of deca every ten days and actually lift heavy weights , and eat like a lifter he could be built awesume foir a long long time and be perfectly healthy...lets not lose sight of that simple fact..

i mean why ever quit  i dont get that

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2011, 10:28:21 PM »
spot injections yes, but NOT synthol.

Some of you guys are a lost cause.

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2011, 12:23:58 AM »
I DONT GET THAT...HES STILL YOUNGE AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT JUST TAKING A COUPLE ccs of test and a cc or 2 of deca every ten days and actually lift heavy weights , and eat like a lifter he could be built awesume foir a long long time and be perfectly healthy...lets not lose sight of that simple fact..

i mean why ever quit  i dont get that

...for kids... ???...guess it's his personal choice, i would never do that...i'm an addict, can admit that...anonymously at least..;)
but still i appreciate how shawnie was able to take bb'ing as a "sport"...and after done with it continue his life normally...unlike ronnie, richie g, cziurlok who are all still juiced to the gills...unlike fellas like marko, silvio and kris dim who had health problems and went back to juice immediately when healed...but on the other hand, i appreciate everything shawn does...da mass with class, size and shape, human perfection...well maybe a bit short but other than that... ;D

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #66 on: January 12, 2011, 01:16:18 AM »
i dont knwo how blind can you be but this fella is after post surgery on china generic gh,,this physiqe is china legit generic gh with anabolic steroids mix,,infact hsi excuse to everyone is that the doctir put him on hgh and testosterona and doctor want him to be on it for the kidny problem so he heal better,,

this is in and out icu for few years,,then shrink ,,then pre mature death ,,many like that around,,

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #67 on: January 12, 2011, 01:24:56 AM »
I DONT GET THAT...HES STILL YOUNGE AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT JUST TAKING A COUPLE ccs of test and a cc or 2 of deca every ten days and actually lift heavy weights , and eat like a lifter he could be built awesume foir a long long time and be perfectly healthy...lets not lose sight of that simple fact..

i mean why ever quit  i dont get that

i totaly get it, he wont train and doesnt know how to train unless he's on,,, he more or less told us that a few yrs back in a semina

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2011, 01:30:27 AM »
why woudl anynone train if nto on gh and steroid?
to be walkign stiff 180 10%? or walking bloofy 210 15%-20%,,why ,,no need,,,maybe if younger than 30 you can do somehting if no gh and only steroid ,,,but over 30 have ot have gh and steroid together to advance otherwize bye bye bodybuildg

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2011, 02:11:32 AM »
have you fellas ever tried to put oil into muscle ,,deep into it,,the ones who realy like injection ,,and there are many bodybuilder who wait forward for injection ,,they addictd to it ,,they like it more than to train ,,they wil stop at nothing,,they like injecting into the bicep,,deeeep ,,they are pro at that,,they know where how what,,they tried it many years,,they are their own doctors,,they take oilllllllllllllllllll put it into syrange,,and through needle deep into muscle ,,if you tried it you would know the muscle will grow from within ,,it will baloon ,,and if done properly it will baloon right ,,propely mean at the right spot when you have LOW BODY FAT AND SEE SEPERATION ,,thats why all the liars do,,alllllll the ones with what you consider huge arms,,you dont get it,,its the leannnnnnn look from high dosing hgh that mistakly make you think their msucle is real ,,,the muscle is syntetic result of hgh and due to them beiing lean enough they can pull the oil from within the muscle to add few more inches,,,

this is how it is...because i'm tellin you right here and now the core most important secrets..."

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I don't think many people are reading closely enough. This is a subject that is rarely talked about. Yes, Synthol has been discussed over and over, but nobody ever discusses the fact that either Synthol, Test or whatever oil can be injected DEEPLY into the tissue. A lot of guys are too scared to even think about it. A doctor may even be paid to do it correctly. The syringe goes so deep into the muscle that you have to bypass arteries and tendons, ligaments, etc. Only a prp would know...a pro doctor or a taught (or stupidly brave and lucky) pro BB.

Not only do they have to inject extremely deep into the core of the muscle, they also have to use a horse-gauge sized needle. Most guys would only consider a needle this size for drawing from a bottle. This is an extremely dangerous practice and we have all heard about the "Pros" that have fucked up by not doing it correctly. An embolism can immediately flow to the heart if an artery is accidently stabbed.

It's amazing that more wanna be "bodybuilders" haven't heard of this practice. It is NOT the same as "site injection"... It's not like Greg Valvolino where everything is obviously pointy and lumpy on the outside. The oil goes so deep that it pushes the muscle outward from the inside so that the striations and definition are not disrupted. It is an extremely dangerous practice and only the brave and diligent can actually pull it off.

How many guys would actually dare to stick an 18 gauge needle 2 or 3 inches (or more) into their body and not worry that they might kill themselves?

Take a look at this pic. How many of these arrows do you think are accurately placed for deep tissue site injections?



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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2011, 05:34:23 AM »
I'm sorry God, but I must humbly disagree with your statement regarding not training naturally after 30. I'm 36, and just last year my waist measured 38.5 inches @ 175 and my bodyfat was probably near 20%, now I weigh 170 @ 12% and my waist is 32 inches, and I am a lifetime natural trainer. My goal is to shoot for you natural limit 5'11" 165 sub-6 FYI, my all-time best condition was 10 years ago when I was 154 @ sub-6 BTW, you yourself saw that photo, and you yourself claimed that I was sitting at sub-6

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2011, 05:50:04 AM »
...for kids... ???...guess it's his personal choice, i would never do that...i'm an addict, can admit that...anonymously at least..;)
but still i appreciate how shawnie was able to take bb'ing as a "sport"...and after done with it continue his life normally...unlike ronnie, richie g, cziurlok who are all still juiced to the gills...unlike fellas like marko, silvio and kris dim who had health problems and went back to juice immediately when healed...but on the other hand, i appreciate everything shawn does...da mass with class, size and shape, human perfection...well maybe a bit short but other than that... ;D

Hi Shawn's gimmick.  ;D

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2011, 05:50:56 AM »

I don't think many people are reading closely enough. This is a subject that is rarely talked about. Yes, Synthol has been discussed over and over, but nobody ever discusses the fact that either Synthol, Test or whatever oil can be injected DEEPLY into the tissue. A lot of guys are too scared to even think about it. A doctor may even be paid to do it correctly. The syringe goes so deep into the muscle that you have to bypass arteries and tendons, ligaments, etc. Only a prp would know...a pro doctor or a taught (or stupidly brave and lucky) pro BB.

Not only do they have to inject extremely deep into the core of the muscle, they also have to use a horse-gauge sized needle. Most guys would only consider a needle this size for drawing from a bottle. This is an extremely dangerous practice and we have all heard about the "Pros" that have fucked up by not doing it correctly. An embolism can immediately flow to the heart if an artery is accidently stabbed.

It's amazing that more wanna be "bodybuilders" haven't heard of this practice. It is NOT the same as "site injection"... It's not like Greg Valvolino where everything is obviously pointy and lumpy on the outside. The oil goes so deep that it pushes the muscle outward from the inside so that the striations and definition are not disrupted. It is an extremely dangerous practice and only the brave and diligent can actually pull it off.

How many guys would actually dare to stick an 18 gauge needle 2 or 3 inches (or more) into their body and not worry that they might kill themselves?

Take a look at this pic. How many of these arrows do you think are accurately placed for deep tissue site injections?




Damn....that pic shows the freak abomination show bodybuilding has become.  :-\

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2011, 11:48:51 AM »
gotta find a pic of Zane for comparison...

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Re: IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?
« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2011, 01:09:32 PM »
yes ,,heath is a 18/5-19 inch arm fella,,its the insulin gh and seo that got him anythign bigger,,heath is actually a 200lb bodybuild that try to be mr o,,he is really the mostr fragile fella on o stage ,,almost all of him is syntetic muscle ,,very little foundation,,if you look at tors and take arms off with computer program you fella shave ,,you will see he resemble the width and torse of female fitness girls,,ofcourse somewhat thicker since he is male,,but width of a woman and size fo many woman,,

im sorry if he read it but this is the truth

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Of course its the truth. Its easy to tell Heath is fragile and fake just by looking at him. Probably only does curls with 45lb dumbells lol even with huge "arms" like that.