Author Topic: Does Jay Cutler deserve to be the current Mr. Olympia? (Read 23207 times)

dj181 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:20:18 AM »

I gotta throw in wit BFRS on this one, bring back da "reign of Zane"

Cableguy · « **Reply #51 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:30:00 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on January 10, 2011, 11:40:11 PM

indeed mr o shoudl have granite look ,,dorian was graet champion ,, evenbthough no body parts at the end but great champion that could dial in and didnt abuse insulin ,,90s were golden age for bodybuild,,70-80-topped at 90s ,,mutation factor up to 2003 and then the big fall,,thats how we will remember friends
gh15 approved

Pretty much exactly how I see it.

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #52 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:37:23 AM »

Quote from: phyxsius on January 11, 2011, 01:41:23 AM

how do you know it's full of oil and soft fluffy muscles?

If you can't tell the difference between different muscle qualities by looking at them, you need to do your homework.

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #53 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:42:21 AM »

Quote from: Board_SHERIF on January 11, 2011, 01:07:07 PM

I would say almost 90 % of bodybuilders in 1960's to 1970's are better ! Zane, draper and dozens of others including a total no name called "mike dayton"

Reg Park owns them all.

Cableguy · « **Reply #54 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:57:22 AM »

Quote from: mass243 on January 11, 2011, 06:47:37 AM

Jay is the greatest ambassador of bodybuilding ever. He has done more for the sport (or whatever you call it) than rest of the Mr O's combined.

Plus we have to take in consideration that his rivals aren't exactly the greatest neither... Among current pros Jay is for sure the best also in physique wise.
This ain't 90's or early 00's. None of the current pros deserves the title more than Jay - so Jay is the champ and deserves it.

So, he just sucks the least...

Cableguy · « **Reply #55 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:04:49 AM »

Quote from: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 08:42:21 AM

Reg Park owns them all.

Reg looked great, but structurally he had a short torso and a wide waist. Kind of like Samir, although Samir's waist was smaller.

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #56 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:28:56 AM »

Quote from: Cableguy on January 12, 2011, 09:04:49 AM

Reg looked great, but structurally he had a short torso and a wide waist. Kind of like Samir, although Samir's waist was smaller.

He looked great because of his density built from brute strength lifts. Thats the difference between Reg's physique and Samir's.
2 completely different bodies. Personally I find the Herculean build that Reg invented much more impressive.

dj181 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:44:46 AM »

Allright, I know dat I will sound like a complete f@gg@t here, but Zane brought Adonis-like beauty to the table. Wide shoulders, narrow hips, long legs, and medium length torso, topped off with granite-like density.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #58 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:53:10 AM »

Kim Lyon's the paid beard?

Cableguy · « **Reply #59 on:** January 12, 2011, 10:19:20 AM »

Quote from: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 09:28:56 AM

He looked great because of his density built from brute strength lifts. Thats the difference between Reg's physique and Samir's.
2 completely different bodies. Personally I find the Herculean build that Reg invented much more impressive.

I agree, Reg was a strong presser and it showed in his physique. And they're from 2 different eras. I was just noticing their structural similarities.

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #60 on:** January 12, 2011, 10:45:51 AM »

Quote from: Cableguy on January 12, 2011, 10:19:20 AM

I agree, Reg was a strong presser and it showed in his physique. And they're from 2 different eras. I was just noticing their structural similarities.

Your are right about the similarities though for sure, good eye.
And Reg was strong in alot of non conventional areas as well. He used to do standing dumbbell shoulder presses with 120 pounders!
I believe the different non traditional lifts he did contributed to the individuality of his physique, and helped him carve such a dense, hard looking complete build.

Firemuscle · « **Reply #61 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:00:36 AM »

So then why is Jay winning the Mr. O?

Is it just classic IFBB corruption and shrewd business tactics?

Or do the judges actually think Jay is best?

Jaime · « **Reply #62 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:04:36 AM »

He is the worst MR. O ever and it isn't even close.

Elephant joints, wider than he is tall, waist the same size as his shoulders, no symmetry, bad insertions, no muscle quality/soft, full of oil.

dj181 · « **Reply #63 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:08:05 AM »

Yeah man, Jay certainly ain't no beautiful Adonis

Cableguy · « **Reply #64 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:23:19 AM »

Quote from: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 10:45:51 AM

Your are right about the similarities though for sure, good eye.
And Reg was strong in alot of non conventional areas as well. He used to do standing dumbbell shoulder presses with 120 pounders!
I believe the different non traditional lifts he did contributed to the individuality of his physique, and helped him carve such a dense, hard looking complete build.

Yup, I remember seeing pics of him doing those presses. Cool stuff! He definitely had a rugged looking physique.

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #65 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:39:32 AM »

Quote from: Cableguy on January 12, 2011, 11:23:19 AM

Yup, I remember seeing pics of him doing those presses. Cool stuff! He definitely had a rugged looking physique.

Thats the word I was looking for! Don't see too many rugged physiques anymore.

Game Time · « **Reply #66 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:43:55 AM »

Didn't gh15 have about 15 posts in this thread last night?

Wonder where they went $:-\$

dyslexic · « **Reply #67 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:46:48 AM »

Reg sure pulled his shorts up high...

Are they ski pants?

Rickyboy · « **Reply #68 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:53:46 AM »

Quote from: BlackFlagRedStar on January 10, 2011, 11:32:50 PM

Not these shitheads like Phil Heath and Cutler, full of oil and soft fluffy muscle.

Dexter Jackson deserves it more. Give it to someone who looks striated and rock hard.

Almost EVERYONE in the top 10 line up looked like an oil blow up doll in 2010.

Mr. O should be sliced, shredded and 100% real muscle (or at least look like it).

That pic of Munzer is the most shredded bodybuilder I have EVER seen!

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #69 on:** January 12, 2011, 12:32:05 PM »

Quote from: dyslexic on January 12, 2011, 11:46:48 AM

Reg sure pulled his shorts up high...

Are they ski pants?

Granny Panties lol

Cableguy · « **Reply #70 on:** January 12, 2011, 12:43:11 PM »

Quote from: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 11:39:32 AM

Thats the word I was looking for! Don't see too many rugged physiques anymore.

True. Mentzer also had a rugged looking physique. An Dorian in those famous black and white pics.

jordyb80 · « **Reply #71 on:** January 12, 2011, 01:13:07 PM »

Quote from: dj181 on January 12, 2011, 11:08:05 AM

Yeah man, Jay certainly ain't no beautiful Adonis

I am sure he thinks he is

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #72 on:** January 12, 2011, 01:36:27 PM »

Quote from: Cableguy on January 12, 2011, 12:43:11 PM

True. Mentzer also had a rugged looking physique. An Dorian in those famous black and white pics.

Well obviously most of the old school guys have that rugged look, but I guess you could say Dorian was the last guy to have it.
Mentzer for sure. Franco too.

TRIX · « **Reply #73 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:09:19 PM »

2009 jay would beat any version of ronnie or dorian. Period

Firemuscle · « **Reply #74 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:11:56 PM »

Quote from: TRIX on January 12, 2011, 07:09:19 PM

2009 jay would beat any version of ronnie or dorian. Period

How do you think Jay got in such good shape in 09? But not in other years?

In 2009 maybe he took some harder diuretics?