TUF 13 announced, Brock vs JDS

[James]

The big men of mixed martial arts are back on The Ultimate Fighter, but this time, they will be coaching, not competing.
UFC President Dana White announced today that former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar and number one contender Junior dos Santos will match wits as the coaches of season 13 of the hit Spike TV reality series.

Following the season, which begins filming this month and begins airing on March 30, Lesnar and dos Santos will then match fists in the Octagon later in 2011.

This will be the first time either fighter has appeared on The Ultimate Fighter, which began airing on Spike in 2005. The last time heavyweights coached the show was during season eight in 2008, when dos Santos’ mentor, “Minotauro” Nogueira, faced off against former champion Frank Mir. This season, the two will coach a host of welterweight hopefuls looking to secure a UFC contract.

One of the biggest success stories of recent years, Brock Lesnar’s rise to the top of the UFC has been well-documented. A former NCAA Division I wrestling champion for the University of Minnesota, Lesnar brought size, speed, and power to the Octagon in 2008, and in only his fourth professional fight, he defeated Randy Couture for the heavyweight crown. After successful defenses against Mir and Shane Carwin, Lesnar lost his belt to Velasquez at UFC 121 last October. Determined to get his championship back, Lesnar knows the quickest way to do so is through dos Santos.

Unheralded Brazilian prospect Junior dos Santos turned into a contender overnight in 2008 when he knocked out highly-regarded veteran Fabricio Werdum in the first round. This spectacular debut was followed by finishes of Stefan Struve, Mirko Cro Cop, Gilbert Yvel, and Gabriel Gonzaga before earning a shot at the heavyweight title with a three round win over Roy Nelson. Yet instead of choosing to wait for Velasquez to return to action, dos Santos will risk his number one contender’s spot by coaching against - and then fighting - Lesnar later this year.

http://www.ufc.com/news/tuf-13-coaching-announcement


"Dana says Brock vs. JDS will "definitely" happen in June."

"Dana tells Vancouver to "keep your fingers crossed" because "you could be getting" Brock-JDS."

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[big L dawg]

easy win for JDS

[George Whorewell]

 

You have got to be kidding me.

[James]

You have got to be kidding me.

Cain just had shoulder surgery and is going to be out for a while.

Dos Santos said he didn't want to wait for Cain to recover from Shoulder surgery, as he already has not fought in 6 months, and it could be another year before Cain is ready to go.

"White said Velasquez's recent shoulder surgery and long layoff opened the door for Lesnar and Dos Santos, which then "made all the sense in the world." However, no interim title will be on the line when the coaches fight, though the winner gets an immediate title shot with Velasquez."

[George Whorewell]

Lesnar shouldn't get another title shot ever. Especially against Cain. I thought that the best HW division in MMA would have a whole team of game ready challengers.  ::)The only guy they can find is Lesnar?

[James]

Lesnar shouldn't get another title shot ever. Especially against Cain. I thought that the best HW division in MMA would have a whole team of game ready challengers.  ::)The only guy they can find is Lesnar?

JDS is next in line, and if by chance Brock beats JDS, he deserves another shot at the title.

Standing up, Brock doesn't stand a chance, and he knows that, but Brock will be taking JDS down just as fast he was able to take Cain down, but Cain was able to get back up immediately. (Cain also suffered a torn rotator cuff in doing so)  So the question is, will JDS be able to stand back up?

[George Whorewell]

It's just embarassing that a paper tiger with the skills of a white belt in every aspect of his game except wrestling is going to be on a primetime MMA reality TV show for several weeks with a whopping record of 5-2 (really should be 4-3) fresh after coming off  of a brutal 1st round TKO stoppage loss against  a fighter that is 50 pounds lighter. Can you imagine Brock picking his team or teaching up and coming fighters? What a pathetic trainwreck in the making.

JDS deserves better than Lesnar. It's honestly a disgrace that Lesnar gets within 1 fight of a rematch with Cain for the title.

[Geo]

It's just embarassing that a paper tiger with the skills of a white belt in every aspect of his game except wrestling is going to be on a primetime MMA reality TV show for several weeks with a whopping record of 5-2 (really should be 4-3) fresh after coming off  of a brutal 1st round TKO stoppage loss against  a fighter that is 50 pounds lighter. Can you imagine Brock picking his team or teaching up and coming fighters? What a pathetic trainwreck in the making.

JDS deserves better than Lesnar. It's honestly a disgrace that Lesnar gets within 1 fight of a rematch with Cain for the title.

are you out of your freakin mind ?

with Lesnar on that show the ratings are going to be off the hook and so will the PPV after the show's over...

[coltrane]

are you out of your freakin mind ?

with Lesnar on that show the ratings are going to be off the hook and so will the PPV after the show's over...

Exactly.  Lesnar is an obvious huge draw in revenue.  Either fans wanna see him get his arrogant ass kicked, or they wanna see him kick ass.  Either way, fans buy it.  
I also don't think he's that bad of a fighter..  he needs some better striking skills obviously, but he's relatively new to the sport.  Guys on here are so critical for some reason.  Lesnar, hate him or not, is a beastly human in a new sport to him.  He hasn't done too poorly either, imo.  Beat Randy, one of the best of all time, at a point when Randy is putting together some impressive wins.  Also sub'd Carwin, another giant.  Beat the snot outta Mir, another veteren.  Cain did get the best of him.  Give him the striking ability as well as a little defense against the strikes, and the guy is unstoppable.  

[WeightPSHR]

It's just embarassing that a paper tiger with the skills of a white belt in every aspect of his game except wrestling is going to be on a primetime MMA reality TV show for several weeks with a whopping record of 5-2 (really should be 4-3) fresh after coming off  of a brutal 1st round TKO stoppage loss against  a fighter that is 50 pounds lighter. Can you imagine Brock picking his team or teaching up and coming fighters? What a pathetic trainwreck in the making.

JDS deserves better than Lesnar. It's honestly a disgrace that Lesnar gets within 1 fight of a rematch with Cain for the title.

You act like JDS has faced anyone better than Brock.  IMO JDS was outed when he faced Roy Nelson.  He had Nelson borderline KO'd after the first round, and couldn't finish him. JDS is a great striker, but that is where it begins and ends for him.  I'm not complaining whatsoever, Brock is entertaining period.

[George Whorewell]

 

Cue the chorus of nitwit UFC fanboys to jump in and defend the most overrated and underskilled HW champion in MMA history.

Let me make a correction though. It will be entertaining to watch Brock embarass himself, meltdown on camera and be destructive to the guys he coaches. Then it will be even more entertaining to watch JDS make him his bitch right before Brock heads back to the WWE.

[coltrane]

Personally, i'm not sold on JDS as of yet.  He has KO'd a bunch of fighters, but none are (or were) top 10.  The fact that he couldn't put down Country wasn't a testament to anything except the fact that Country has one hellava chin on him.  Mir better bring his jits to that fight.

IDK.  I still think Carwin is right up there with Cain in the UFC.  If he can get his breathing situation corrected, he'll dominate.

[WeightPSHR]

Personally, i'm not sold on JDS as of yet.  He has KO'd a bunch of fighters, but none are (or were) top 10.  The fact that he couldn't put down Country wasn't a testament to anything except the fact that Country has one hellava chin on him.  Mir better bring his jits to that fight.

IDK.  I still think Carwin is right up there with Cain in the UFC.  If he can get his breathing situation corrected, he'll dominate.

The thing about the JDS and Nelson fight, was that JDS didn't even try taking Roy down or submitting him when Roy was severely beaten up.  JDS didn't seem like he had any other tools.  When the top of the UFC HW div. are all exceptional wrestlers, it doesn't look good for JDS.  I agree, not sold on him yet.

[George Whorewell]

Didn't have any other tools? He used Nelson like a punching bag and wisely decided to stay off the ground against a bigger and equally proficient ( if not superior) BJJ black belt.

You morons probably knock GSP as well for dominating in his last fight too.  GSP beat Koscheck to a bloody pulp boxing, but didn't show his other tools.

[WeightPSHR]

Didn't have any other tools? He used Nelson like a punching bag and wisely decided to stay off the ground against a bigger and equally proficient ( if not superior) BJJ black belt.

You morons probably knock GSP as well for dominating in his last fight too.  GSP beat Koscheck to a bloody pulp boxing, but didn't show his other tools.

The difference with GSP is we have sen him do all the other stuff.  JDS has shown nothing but his standup skills.
Get it?  All I am saying is JDS needs to show better show a lot more to convince me. That's all. Take a look at these. Rest my case.



Win    Roy Nelson    Decision (Unanimous)    UFC 117 - Silva vs. Sonnen    8/7/2010    3    5:00
 Win    Gabriel Gonzaga    TKO (Punches)    UFC Live 1 - Vera vs. Jones    3/21/2010    1    3:53
 Win    Gilbert Yvel    TKO (Punches)    UFC 108 - Evans vs. Silva    1/2/2010    1    2:07
 Win    Mirko Filipovic    Submission (Punch)    UFC 103 - Franklin vs. Belfort    9/19/2009    3    2:00
 Win    Stefan Struve    TKO (Punches)    UFC 95 - Sanchez vs. Stevenson    2/21/2009    1    0:54
 Win    Fabricio Werdum    TKO (Punches)    UFC 90 - Silva vs. Cote    10/25/2008    

[coltrane]

i agree.  I'd like to see what kinda ground game he's got before i make up my mind he's the next best thing. 

[big L dawg]

how often do u see anderson silva take someone down

[WeightPSHR]

how often do u see anderson silva take someone down

Think you are misunderstanding the point. Anderson has shown that his style works through his win streak/title defenses that nearly doubles JDS's  streak.  He also has some submissions in recent fights.  One trick pony's (like JDS seems at the moment) usually get stopped and figured out eventually.  GSP and Anderson have a preferred style, but they have PROVEN that they can take the fight anywhere. JDS has not YET.  When/If he does, he will gain credibility.

[coltrane]

how often do u see anderson silva take someone down

your point?  Fact is is that he doesn't show us much ground game.  That's the point Weighpsher is trying to make i thinkl..

[George Whorewell]

Lots of fight experts in this thread. It's not surprsing that the idiotic conclusions reached thus far stem partially from an unnamed getbig member who thinks that Brock Lesnar fleeing from Shane Carwin while getting punched to a pulp was "strategic" and comparable to Lyoto Machidas elusiveness.