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Postings of a Troubled Mind
Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
By ALEXANDRA BERZON, JOHN R. EMSHWILLER And ROBERT A. GUTH

 
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Last May 9, at two in the morning, Jared Lee Loughner typed a question to a group of about 50 online gamers located around the world: "Does anyone have aggression 24/7?"

He was back at his keyboard the following night. "If you went to prison right now...What would you be thinking?" he asked.

 
Online postings last year by accused gunman Jared Lee Loughner.

A trove of 131 online-forum postings written between April and June 2010, which were viewed by The Wall Street Journal, provides insight into Mr. Loughner's mind-set in the year leading up to Saturday's shootings in Tucson, Ariz. He stands accused of killing six people, gravely wounding Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D., Ariz.) and injuring 13 others.

The online postings paint a picture of a disturbed young man trying to impress his peers and struggling to find a purpose to his life. They range from prosaic chatter about weight lifting to nonsensical philosophical ramblings that left some of the gamers who read them wondering whether he was using drugs or had a mental disability.

On Tuesday, after a search of the Loughners' home, federal investigators found a letter from Rep. Giffords's office in which Mr. Loughner had scribbled the words "Die Cops" and "Die Bitch," said Capt. Chris Nanos of the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Capt. Nanos, who was briefed on the findings, said Mr. Loughner had also referenced an assassination in handwritten notes on the letter.

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..The letter, dated 2007, was a form document sent by the staff of Rep. Giffords to thank Mr. Loughner for attending one of her events.

Capt. Nanos confirmed that Tucson local authorities had visited the Loughners' house in the past for minor incidents unrelated to the suspect, except for once: Around 2006 or 2007, the suspect called the authorities to report a case of identity theft. "Someone had used his name on MySpace or Facebook," Capt. Nanos said.

The online-forum messages exhibit a growing frustration that, at 22 years of age, Mr. Loughner couldn't land a minimum-wage job and was spurned by women. By May 15, he wrote, he hadn't had a paycheck in six months. A month later, he wrote that he had submitted 65 applications, yet "no interview."

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.At times, Mr. Loughner seemed to be reaching out to fellow gamers for help and advice, albeit in a disturbing way. Sometimes they offered it, such as giving him pointers about job hunting. At other times, his postings seemed so outrageous that the gamers mocked or ignored him.

The online postings, written using pseudonyms, were shared with the Journal by a person who had access to them. Two fellow gamers who participated in the online forums say the author was the accused gunman, and some of the postings discuss incidents from Mr. Loughner's life that others have corroborated.

Judy Clarke and Mark Fleming, two defense lawyers assigned to represent Mr. Loughner, didn't respond to phone messages left at their San Diego offices. Federal authorities have said they have seized Mr. Loughner's computer and are trying to examine all of the online places where he spent time. A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

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Jared Loughner's family made their first public comments Tuesday.
.Mr. Loughner's family on Tuesday made its first comments since the shootings. In a written statement, Randy and Amy Loughner said they couldn't understand what motivated their son and expressed condolences for the victims and their families. "There are no words that can possibly express how we feel," they said. "We are so very sorry for their loss."

Mr. Loughner had a history of asking provocative questions. In early high school, he asked unusual questions that were innocent, such as one time when he asked a friend about the purpose of human toes, recalls Joseph Headlee, a former high-school classmate.

His recent online postings are more disturbing. On April 24, he asked: "Would you hit a Handy Cap Child/ Adult?" On May 20 at 12:03 a.m., he remarked: "I bet your hungry....Because i know how to cut a body open and eat you for more then a week. ;-)"

The postings exhibit fixations on grammar, the education system, government and currency, which some friends and acquaintances have described separately in the days since the attack. They are peppered with displays of misogyny.

Mr. Loughner's posts don't mention Rep. Giffords, who is believed to have been the target of the attack, nor do they give any indication that Mr. Loughner was plotting a shooting. But several mention mental breakdowns and violent thoughts. One post alluded to the Fifth Amendment, which aims to protect citizens against the government abusing its power in legal proceedings.

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.Mr. Loughner posted the messages in a private forum associated with the online game Earth Empires. On Tuesday, the site's administrator in a public forum admonished members for sharing information with the media.

In a separate forum, the administrator wrote that he would cooperate with federal authorities if asked. "I want this information to get to the right hands, but I want to make sure it's done through the proper legal means," he wrote.

Gaming appears to have been an important part of Mr. Loughner's life. In the 7th grade, he and a friend, Alex Montanaro, began playing the multiplayer online games Starcraft and Diablo, which featured complex virtual worlds where players assume roles and play against other people around the globe, Mr. Montanaro said in emails over the weekend and Monday.

Around the 9th grade, recalls Mr. Montanaro, Mr. Loughner abandoned the old games and started playing Earth: 2025, now called Earth Empires, a text-based game in which players assume the form of a country and develop its economy. Players form clans and battle other clans.

The game includes social networks built around the clan alliances—private online forums in which players conversed. In those forums at that time, Mr. Loughner often spouted conspiracy theories and got into heated debates with others, according to a forum participant who has been reading Mr. Loughner's posts for years. Mr. Loughner originally played under the pseudonyms Cries and Cry. At various times he also used the aliases Heroin, XTC and Erad, according to two people familiar with the matter, and played for various clans.

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.Around 10th grade, Mr. Loughner began acting more strangely and separating from his friends, according to Mr. Montanaro. Mr. Loughner took a break from the gaming world in 2008 but resumed a year later, says Mr. Montanaro. Mr. Loughner joined an online alliance called SancTuarY/Collab. He wrote under the pseudonym Dare. After last June, he stopped playing, says the games administrator.

Mr. Loughner seemed consumed with the outlet the private-posting world provided, says Mr. Montanaro, who was also part of SancT/Collab. Compared with the debates he had engaged in as a young teen, his postings were often nonsensical, say people who knew him in both settings. Mr. Montanaro described them as "weird poems coupled with 'logic' statements."

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..Even in a setting that includes the raw and often raunchy thoughts of young men, Mr. Loughner's postings were startling. They show an obsession with language, a hatred of the educational system and aggression—all of which later became themes of videos posted by Mr. Loughner on YouTube in the months before the shooting. In the forum posts, Mr. Loughner never mentions any political views explicitly, nor does he name any political figures.

On April 24, Mr. Loughner titled a new online thread: "Would you hit a Handy Cap Child/ Adult?" He wrote: "This is a very interesting question….There are mental retarded children. They're possessing teachers that are typing for money. This will never stop….The drug addicts need to be weeded out to be more intelligent. The Principle of this is that them c— educators need to stop being pigs."

Later that day, he posted a rant titled "Why Rape," which said women in college enjoyed being raped. "There are Rape victims that are under the influence of a substance. The drinking is leading them to rape. The loneliness will bring you to depression. Being alone for a very long time will inevitably lead you to rape."

Some participants in the forum suggested that he must be on drugs, while others said he may be mentally impaired. One forum participant who has read his postings says it was only in retrospect, after the shootings, that he realized that Mr. Loughner appeared mentally unstable in his messages.

On April 28, Mr. Loughner wrote: "How many stars are in the universe?" Other posters responded with mathematical calculations. Later in the thread, Mr. Loughner shifted gears: "What do Chocolate cookies taste like?"

On May 2, Mr. Loughner wrote: "This forum made me feel better....," followed by the emoticon for a smiling face.

.The same day, he started a thread called "Weight Lifting," and asked whether anyone else lifted. He described himself as 5 feet 10 inches tall and 155 pounds, and said he could do 65 push-ups, bench press 165 pounds, and do 25 pull-ups and 100 sit-ups, "(thanks to the ab machine)." He said he could run a mile in between 6 minutes, 30 seconds, and 6 minutes, 50 seconds. "I'm flexible" after "years of stretches," he wrote. "Diet is key."

On May 14, at 10:50 p.m., Mr. Loughner begins an online thread he called, "How many applications....is a lot?" It contained what appears to be a list of 21 retail outlets he had applied to or failed to get a job at, including Crate & Barrel, Wendy's and Domino's Pizza.

Some posters expressed surprise. One noted he hasn't applied for that many jobs in his life.

Mr. Loughner had been arrested in Pima County in 2007 and charged with possession of drugs and drug paraphernalia, according to court records. His case was dismissed. In October 2008, he was arrested for scrawling graffiti on a street sign. He paid restitution and attended a diversion program, a court administrator said.

In the online forum, Mr. Loughner wrote that he was having trouble landing a job because of his work history and criminal record. He explained that he had had five "terminations," listing Peter Piper Pizza, "Chineese" fast food, Red Robin, Quiznos and Eddie Bauer. He wrote that the list of firings "will be updated." He wrote: "I'm thinking....2 misdemeanors hurt. Don't do Graffiti."

He hinted at a different problem at the Red Robin. "I had to walk out of red robin," he wrote. "Terrible situation. Mental breakdown." Mr. Montanaro, who also worked at the restaurant, says Mr. Loughner "just hated his job" and one night said "he couldn't take it anymore" and quit.

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..One poster joked that the group can give him a leadership role on the video game. Mr. Loughner responded: "...Ha.....ha....ha.....A nd waste more time of my life...this is like my social life...I know everything is made fun of.."

One gamer advised him that in order to get a job, he needed to provide potential employers such things as references and a list of jobs he had held previously. Mr. Loughner replied in a profanity-laced message that he knew that. "CANT HOLD TERMINATION AGAINST FUTURE EMPLOYEE !" He repeated that line 117 times.

Anger increasingly permeated his postings.

On May 5, he started a thread titled "Talk, Talk, Talking about Rejection." He solicited stories of rejection by the opposite sex. The next day he wrote, "Its funny...when..they say lets go on a date about 3 times..and they dont....go..." Three days later, he wrote, "Its funny when your 60 wondering......what happen at 21."

On May 9 at 2:00 a.m., he asked: "Does anyone have aggression 24/7?" By noon, when others suggested he try smoking marijuana, he said: "No weed. No drugs. It's not like I can't see my brain."

The following night, he titled a thread: "If you went to prison right now.....What would you be thinking?" He added, "Just curious?" After others responded that they would do everything they could to avoid going to prison, including commit suicide, Mr. Loughner said, "Let's say you are in the cell for life...For nothing." A few minutes later he added, "21...going to college...no workplace."

In his online postings, he comments on problems he had at Pima Community College, which have been reported previously. His math instructor, Ben McGahee, said recently that Mr. Loughner's off-topic outbursts during class scared students and disrupted the class. Mr. Loughner was suspended from the school and withdrew last October.

On June 3 at 12:14 a.m. Mr. Loughner described one confrontation with Mr. McGahee, writing to his fellow gamers that he had asked the teacher: "Are you just getting a pay check for brainwashing?" as well as questioning if the class was a "scam" and asking, "can you tell me how to Deny math?" He wrote that the teacher told him it was a stupid question and he should "GET OUT OF MY CLASS!"

The next day, after he had to see a school counselor, he wrote: "Told her about brainwashing a child and how that can change the view of mathematics."

Since the news of Mr. Loughner's alleged role in the shootings broke, members in the public forums of Earth Empires expressed shock that one of their own would take such action, and worried that people would point fingers at the game or the community.

"This is an immeasurable tragedy, and it pains me that someone from our close-knit community could be involved in such a heinous act," the administrator wrote on Sunday. Later that day he wrote, "I reviewed some of the posts he made and they're....disturbing."

One member wrote, "I can't stand that I know him."

—James Oberman contributed to this article.

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 08:14:40 AM »
Are you moronic libs starting to get a clue yet?

This freak of nature did not murder for political reasons whatsoever.     

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2011, 08:26:11 AM »
I have an idea, lets blame this on the Gaming Community and see where that gets us?   

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 08:52:24 AM »
CURSE THAT RUSH LIMBAUGH!! And, BLAST THAT DARN SARAH PALIN.

If it weren't for them, this crackpot would have been able to get a job and some booty, and not gone off the deep end.

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 08:55:29 AM »
This whole affai is going to back fire on the left so bad they have no clue.   

And if Obama tries to exploit this mess like the 99% of the media and his own horrid party are, it will backfire on him too.


This guy seems exactly like the VA Tech freak - mentally deranged freak show.   

 

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 09:08:03 AM »
The figures on the left that i follow haven't said boo about Palin.  John Stewart has said there wasn't a party or side to blame, but only a deranged man.

The point i've made is that Palin was foolish to put sights up on areas in the first place.  Now regardless of the shooters motives she has allowed herself to be painted as a cause whether or not she truly was.  It seems she wasn't at all but the fact is she's allowed herself to be drawn into it by her stupid actions.  Political rookie mistake, yet another in a long line of gaffes.
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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 09:13:55 AM »
The figures on the left that i follow haven't said boo about Palin.  John Stewart has said there wasn't a party or side to blame, but only a deranged man.

The point i've made is that Palin was foolish to put sights up on areas in the first place.  Now regardless of the shooters motives she has allowed herself to be painted as a cause whether or not she truly was.  It seems she wasn't at all but the fact is she's allowed herself to be drawn into it by her stupid actions.  Political rookie mistake, yet another in a long line of gaffes.


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I guss the Democrats calling for the death of the newgov in FL are blameless?  the ems in 2004doing the same thing are blameless?  Obama using equally inflaming anguage is blamesless?   

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 09:17:07 AM »

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I guss the Democrats calling for the death of the newgov in FL are blameless?  the ems in 2004doing the same thing are blameless?  Obama using equally inflaming anguage is blamesless?   

Why do you always try to deflect?  I mean seriously it's nothing but oh but the dems did this.  Post after post after post.  It's rather pathetic that you are the EXACT same as those dems who blame Palin and Rush and everything else, because you then blame the left.  It's funny but the more you hate the extreme left, the more you become JUST LIKE THEM. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 09:20:50 AM »
Why do you always try to deflect?  I mean seriously it's nothing but oh but the dems did this.  Post after post after post.  It's rather pathetic that you are the EXACT same as those dems who blame Palin and Rush and everything else, because you then blame the left.  It's funny but the more you hate the extreme left, the more you become JUST LIKE THEM. 

Exactly - I am using absurdity to combat your absurdity. 

This guy was not a political actor at all.   He was a mentally derangednut who believed in 911 CT's,and was obsessed with this woman since 2007 as a result of his meting with Giffords and his response to her   

This was not a political act on his part, but that of a serial killer and freak show. 

If you want to credit palin with adding to the so called climate of hate, i can out do you 10 fold of those on the left adding to this so called climate.   


Had nothing to do with this act.         


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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 09:21:48 AM »
'HE DID NOT WATCH TV.  HE DISLIKED THE NEWS.  HE DIDN'T LISTEN TO POLITICAL RADIO'

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 09:23:11 AM »
Lets see Benny, Blacken, 240, et all respns to this.   


I really have never have seen anything like this in my entire life.   

Episodes like this remind me why I despise the left with a passion.   

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Re: Accused Shooter Wrote on Gaming Site of His Job Woes, Rejection by Women
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 12:06:50 PM »
Exactly - I am using absurdity to combat your absurdity. 
This guy was not a political actor at all.   He was a mentally derangednut who believed in 911 CT's,and was obsessed with this woman since 2007 as a result of his meting with Giffords and his response to her   

This was not a political act on his part, but that of a serial killer and freak show. 

If you want to credit palin with adding to the so called climate of hate, i can out do you 10 fold of those on the left adding to this so called climate.   


Had nothing to do with this act.         


notice how he didnt seem to understand that...