Author Topic: Lee Haney or Ronnie Coleman ? (Read 7764 times)

hipolito mejia · « **on:** January 12, 2011, 06:00:26 PM »

Fast forward to 6:55 to hear what big Ronnie has to say

I have to agree with Ronnie on that one.

Yip, Yip

el numero uno · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:24:56 PM »

Interesting, but IMO I think Ronnie was just being humble.

Nirvana · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:27:40 PM »

^ yeah I agree ronnie would kill dorian

Jaime · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:35:21 PM »

Ronni beats Lee imho.

jude2 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:37:57 PM »

Quote from: Jaime on January 12, 2011, 06:35:21 PM

Ronni beats Lee imho.

Of course.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:49:31 PM »

Without GH,Insulin etc Ronnie's calves would have been around 13 inches or so , He Would have been another B.Buchanan type of BB, had he been around in the 80's.

CT_Muscle · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:49:38 PM »

Quote from: jude2 on January 12, 2011, 06:37:57 PM

Of course.

Not if Lee was 10 yrs younger

Reeves · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:54:42 PM »

The Oak for the win. Nothing compares to prime Arnold. Nothing. Natural belongs to Steve Reeves. Ronnie is very good, I will grant that for his physique is without question exemplary, just not what I think of as a physique worth emulating.

As if I could.

Jadeveon Clowney · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:56:09 PM »

Quote from: Reeves on January 12, 2011, 06:54:42 PM

The Oak for the win. Nothing compares to prime Arnold. Nothing. Natural belongs to Steve Reeves. Ronnie is very good, I will grant that for his physique is without question exemplary, just not what I think of as a physique worth emulating.

As if I could.

Steve Reeves was about as natural as Michael Jacksons face.

monstercalves · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:59:06 PM »

Quote from: Jeo-Lee Yun on January 12, 2011, 06:56:09 PM

Steve Reeves was about as natural as Michael Jacksons face.

hahahah

geneticmarvel · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:02:20 PM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on January 12, 2011, 06:49:31 PM

Without GH,Insulin etc Ronnie's calves would have been around 13 inches or so , He Would have been another B.Buchanan type of BB, had he been around in the 80's.

he just happened to be in the era of pharmaceutical abundance, Coleman possessed the best genetics, work ethic and had the constitution of a thoroughbred.

Reeves · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:02:48 PM »

Quote from: Jeo-Lee Yun on January 12, 2011, 06:56:09 PM

Steve Reeves was about as natural as Michael Jacksons face.

If that's what it takes to make you feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeel better about yourself.

Reeves · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:04:45 PM »

Quote from: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 07:02:20 PM

he just happened to be in the era of pharmaceutical abundance, Coleman possessed the best genetics, work ethic and had the constitution of a thoroughbred.

Ah...the era of "pharmaceutical abundance". Kinda sorta like the golden era of...nah. Good analogy though.

Flexb · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:56:42 PM »

Just take a look at Ronnie in 94, before certain advancements, if you think Ronnie actually stood a chance against Lee while using basically the same shit.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:07:25 PM »

Quote from: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 07:02:20 PM

he just happened to be in the era of pharmaceutical abundance, Coleman possessed the best genetics, work ethic and had the constitution of a thoroughbred.

Thas is exactly why Ronnie himself think that without The "pharmaceutica abundancel" he dont think he coulld have keep up with the package presented by Lee during that time...

(watch the clip again) from 6:55 on

Best genetcis? Ronnie won his first sandow at age 34 with better drugs, yet his calves were the poorest on stage that year ... while Lee Haney won his 8th Mr.O by age 31!

G_Thang · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:27:22 PM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on January 12, 2011, 08:07:25 PM

Thas is exactly why Ronnie himself think that without The "pharmaceutica abundancel" he dont think he coulld have keep up with the package presented by Lee during that time...

(watch the clip again) from 6:55 on

Best genetcis? Ronnie won his first sandow at age 34 with better drugs, yet his calves were the poorest on stage that year ... while Lee Haney won his 8th Mr.O by age 31!

Ronnie had a fuckin full-time career before shawn ray and kevin levrone told him to give up bbing and stop wasting his money. now...put ronnie behind a gym help desk like phil heath from one day and see how may Os he would have won. he should have had 9 given he was still better than jay in 06 even with all the tears.

epic_alien · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:40:58 PM »

its funny how in the end of the clip he says, if "lee took what i took he would have been better", then he says if i was in lee era "it wouldnt have matter what they gave me"

he is referencing the drugs, and they still taped it

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2011, 12:12:37 AM »

Quote from: Flexb on January 12, 2011, 07:56:42 PM

Just take a look at Ronnie in 94, before certain advancements, if you think Ronnie actually stood a chance against Lee while using basically the same shit.

Now throw up a clip or pics of Lee when he was just started...
$:-\$
Sorry genetic wise Coleman poos all over Lee
No contest

Meso_z · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2011, 01:25:40 AM »

Ronnie > Lee

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2011, 02:20:37 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on January 12, 2011, 06:00:26 PM

Fast forward to 6:55 to hear what big Ronnie has to say

I have to agree with Ronnie on that one.

Yip, Yip

Haney was more complete and had a better, more balanced skeletal frame. Coleman was superior in every other way- muscularity, aesthetics, muscle quality, etc.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2011, 04:00:53 AM »

it's funny that lee is older than ronnie by only 5 years!!..

i agree with what ronnie said here and respect him.. lee didn't have real weak points as ronnie and logically if he took what ronnie took he would have become something else!!..

JP_RC · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2011, 06:50:50 AM »

Ronnie had better arms and was a mass monster and his size alone would be too much for Haney from a bb judging perspective.

But

Lee Haney in my opinion a much better classic physique, great symmetry, small waist, etc. A physique you could look at and say 'that looks good' instead of just 'that is a freak' so frequent with bb's post 1993.

Overall Haney's physique> Coleman's physique imo

And Sergio Oliva's build > both of them.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2011, 07:02:49 AM »

Quote from: JP_RC on January 13, 2011, 06:50:50 AM

Ronnie had better arms and was a mass monster and his size alone would be too much for Haney from a bb judging perspective.

But

Lee Haney in my opinion a much better classic physique, great symmetry, small waist, etc. A physique you could look at and say 'that looks good' instead of just 'that is a freak' so frequent with bb's post 1993.

Overall Haney's physique> Coleman's physique imo

And Sergio Oliva's build > both of them.

I am a big Haney fan, but 98 Ronnie was had all that + the freak factor. Haney did have weak points that were pointed out at the time - arms kind of small in relation to torso, quad separation, calves...etc.

Not taking anything away from him, but Ronnie would have destroyed him.

MB · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2011, 07:05:02 AM »

Lee presented his best showing in '91, his last Olympia. That goes to show he could have stepped it up even more. Imagine Haney with mid '90s conditioning at 250 lbs.

slaver · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2011, 07:10:28 AM »

Author Topic: Lee Haney or Ronnie Coleman ? (Read 7764 times)

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