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question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« on: January 13, 2011, 03:36:25 AM »
have been playing long enough that all i want now is great Tone.

want to have a sound something like david gilmour from this album;

can anyone translate this fucking calculus problem of a website/rig layout into simplified common english for me (aka what i would need pedal/amp- wise)?

http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=31

thanks

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 03:40:31 AM »
P.S. Roger Waters is a Faggott, David Gilmour is the fucking Master.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 03:56:12 AM »
Only use guitar and amp. Why the gay effects?
I even removed the vol. and tone pot from my guitar
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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 04:44:15 AM »
Gilmour is a fantastic player but common his tone sucks.  If you want tone try bare knuckle stormy Monday pickups. Best I've heard.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 08:24:54 AM »
Perfect tone is subjective. (BTW This is not how Gilmour gets his tone)

A decent tube amp. (I use a Mesa Triaxis into a 100/100 6l6 Marshall Poweramp)

Guitar -> Preamp -> Time based effects in the loop run in parallel -> Power Section -> Speaker Cab

If you want effects in front of the amp get a loop switcher(GCX or Loop from Tonebone) which can take the pedals in and out of the signal path.

This will get you in the ballpark of Gilmour's sound

Guitar: Am Vintage Reissue strat with a DG20 set from EMG
Amp: Gilmour uses multiple HiWatt amps to create stereo effects but a decent Mesa/Boogie Lonestar or Stilleto would get you close. Or try the Triaxis setup I mentioned above.
Effects: Gilmour uses Big muffs, pro co rats, boss sd-1's, ce-1's, Space echos, tape echos, etc. A TC G-force will cover a lot of the ground for you instead of buying individual effects. Then you can add in anything you find is missing/not quite what you need.



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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 08:51:36 AM »
This is me with a $99 Strat and a simple distorted amp.

David Gilmour's tone's main equation is this: 1) HIM! 2) His fingers 3) A Fender Stratocaster


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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 08:55:44 AM »
Here's me again, sans the Strat...

Not quite so "Gilmourish..."


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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 08:58:47 AM »
great videos dyslexic.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 09:01:29 AM »
great videos dyslexic.

Thanks!


By the time I get back home tonight I'm sure I'll find out how much I really SUCK!!! Ha ha.



Have a nice day, NM.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 09:03:11 AM »
Thanks!


By the time I get back home tonight I'm sure I'll find out how much I really SUCK!!! Ha ha.



Have a nice day, NM.

I think you play great and better than me (that's not saying much, I stink at guitar hero LOL)

Have a nice one yourself

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2011, 09:15:03 AM »
epic psychedelic screen saver
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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2011, 09:27:21 AM »
most tone comes from the studio.  the pedals are moneymaking devices.  studio does most of the shit.


btw tone is unimportant to the music you create.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2011, 09:29:05 AM »
have you ever considered just hooking your guitar up to your pc and buy some good quality speakers, or hooking an amp to the output and using VSTs to get the sound you want?

a friend of mine is helping me record some music, and i never thought i could ever get a tone like that... hooked it up to a Peavy VST that has the XXX cabinet and it sounds fucking awesome... the range of tones you can get from those VSTs is endless, and they're very easy to use.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 09:52:51 AM »
This is me with a $99 Strat and a simple distorted amp.

David Gilmour's tone's main equation is this: 1) HIM! 2) His fingers 3) A Fender Stratocaster



Good boy  8)
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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 11:20:31 AM »
P.S. Roger Waters is a Faggott, David Gilmour is the fucking Master.

Roger Waters = Pink Floyd

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 12:34:22 PM »
Roger Waters IS a genius "You better stay home and do as you're told, get out of the road if you wanna grow old" 8)

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 12:35:28 PM »
It's in da fingers!

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 12:40:31 PM »
I've got that same bullet strat in daphne blue  I also have a usa strat and tbut I play the cheap one mostly just cause the tones and sound you can get are 90% the player

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2011, 02:09:08 PM »
This is me with a $99 Strat and a simple distorted amp.

David Gilmour's tone's main equation is this: 1) HIM! 2) His fingers 3) A Fender Stratocaster



that sounded good....what amp did you use for that and what were the setting like?

i play a gibson SG which has great crunch and metal sounds but ive never been able to get that type of sound.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2011, 05:47:34 PM »
Here's me again, sans the Strat...

Not quite so "Gilmourish..."



Very talented. But is your axe fucking pink  ???

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2011, 08:32:13 PM »
epic psychedelic screen saver


Actually, that's not a "psychadelic screensaver" it's the sound waves from the backing track which was pulled directly from their album...

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2011, 08:34:10 PM »
Very talented. But is your axe fucking pink  ???



My ass is...


That Kramer guitar is some kind of "Cherry Red.."


Fitting...no?

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2011, 01:24:09 AM »
Thanks!


By the time I get back home tonight I'm sure I'll find out how much I really SUCK!!! Ha ha.



Have a nice day, NM.


No, I concur that was a great job man!

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2011, 06:04:18 AM »
have been playing long enough that all i want now is great Tone.

want to have a sound something like david gilmour from this album;

can anyone translate this fucking calculus problem of a website/rig layout into simplified common english for me (aka what i would need pedal/amp- wise)?

http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=31

thanks

Tone comes from touch.. You develop that with experience.
After that development, you can buy some gear conducive towards the tone you're after, but remember this... you're always going to sound like yourself no matter what you play through.

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Re: question for the Guitarist BODYBUILDERS
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2011, 07:12:31 AM »
Tone comes from touch.. You develop that with experience.
After that development, you can buy some gear conducive towards the tone you're after, but remember this... you're always going to sound like yourself no matter what you play through.


Take an acoustic guitar for example...


Gilmour would still be a stand-out and identifiable.