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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2011, 07:15:50 AM »
But I'm not talking about casey's results, I'm talking about THE 50 YEAR OLD LIFETIME NATURAL, Arthur Jones results! 15 LEAN MUSCLE POUNDS added in 22 days! Me thinks that peeps just want to deny it, say it isn't possible, or call him a liar, coz their pride just can't handle THE FACT, that they get piss poor results from their training, and are lucky to gain an ounce of fucking muscle to their frames

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2011, 07:23:28 AM »
And Jamie, I don't know man, but many fellas have claimed outstanding gains using Mentzer's one workout a week training style. In fact, a few of the members on this board make that claim.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2011, 07:28:23 AM »
But I'm not talking about casey's results, I'm talking about THE 50 YEAR OLD LIFETIME NATURAL, Arthur Jones results! 15 LEAN MUSCLE POUNDS added in 22 days! Me thinks that peeps just want to deny it, say it isn't possible, or call him a liar, coz their pride just can't handle THE FACT, that they get piss poor results from their training, and are lucky to gain an ounce of fucking muscle to their frames

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence...

The fact he says it just isn't good enough when in the history of the world there is no scientifically controlled example of a natural gaining 15 lbs of MUSCLE in 22 days. So short of extraordinary evidence, I will simply disbelieve it. 

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2011, 07:39:17 AM »
But it was an experiment within a controlled setting man. They did this experiment at Colorado State University, with before and after strength tests, and before and after bodyfat measures. These strength tests DIRECTLY PROVE that his added bodyweight WAS LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE, because a bigger muscle IS a stronger muscle, not to mention THE FACT that his bodyfat levels actually went down during this 3 week time period. And AJ was a fucking mean ass prick, but he wasn't a liar.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2011, 07:52:00 AM »
Is this how Arthur Jones looked after the Colorado experiment? @ 50 years old?


looks like alot of 'experimenting' going on   :-X
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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2011, 08:21:16 AM »
But it was an experiment within a controlled setting man. They did this experiment at Colorado State University, with before and after strength tests, and before and after bodyfat measures. These strength tests DIRECTLY PROVE that his added bodyweight WAS LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE, because a bigger muscle IS a stronger muscle, not to mention THE FACT that his bodyfat levels actually went down during this 3 week time period. And AJ was a fucking mean ass prick, but he wasn't a liar.

Our standards of controlled are different. In this case, the claim is he was natural. How do we know he was natural? Because he says he was. That is the unknown variable in this experiment. Everyone lies there is no exception. By definition we are all liars. To what extent is the only question. So again, if left to believe a natural put on 15 lbs of lean muscle in 22 days, I would have to suspend a lot of historical, scientific and ancedotal information to accept that as fact.

So given the unknown variable and the extraordinary result, I ask myself... what is more likely...AJ gained 15 lbs of lean muscle in 22 days circuit training, OR, he was on the juice. Personally, I'm going with the juice. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.     

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2011, 09:09:57 AM »
Allright man, good point. But he wasn't just doing circuit training during this experiment, he was also heaving using negative-only as well. The point is that he greatly increased his strength in this 3 week period. ONE CANNOT GET NOTICEABLY STRONGER AND NOT GET BIGGER, it just won't happen.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2011, 09:12:42 AM »
boy,,meets man and man then teaches boy things,,he never knew,, :D
looks like alot of 'experimenting' going on   :-X

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2011, 10:15:31 AM »
And Jamie, I don't know man, but many fellas have claimed outstanding gains using Mentzer's one workout a week training style. In fact, a few of the members on this board make that claim.



Everyone that i see that makes gains train hard and regular, regular being more than once every two weeks and more than two sets or whatever the fuck he used to specify.

Even if Arthur did gain that muscle naturally, which he didn't, all that would mean is that he is a freak genetic exception. It goes no way to validating his training because that will not work with anyone else. Fame is money, of course he put his ideology's in the best possible light, he would have been stupid not to.
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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2011, 10:21:15 AM »
Is this how Arthur Jones looked after the Colorado experiment? @ 50 years old?



I heard of these "types" of experiments involving an older man and an innocent youngster.

Hmm..
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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2011, 10:22:34 AM »
I heard of these "types" of experiments involving an older man and an innocent youngster.

Hmm..
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Sounds like a priest and an altar boy.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2011, 10:25:08 AM »

I thought this was about the Vyotech Colorado Pro. 
 
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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2011, 10:36:14 AM »
Im a bigger fan of the Tuskegee experiments.



LMAO ;D

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2011, 11:15:41 AM »
Lots of haters in this thread. Oh well, if you are satisfied with you negligible and piss poor results then so be it. Me? Well, I'm not satisfied with piss poor results.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2011, 11:17:51 AM »
I havent the guts to try hit for 6month, who has?

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2011, 11:20:14 AM »
And Jamie, the Mentzer guys do train pretty hard, they just don't train very often. Serious question, how much lean muscle mass have you gained in the last 3 weeks? No man, I ain't hating on ya, I just trying to help you to see the whole point of this thread. And by the way, muscle growth DOES HAPPEN IN SPURTS, not this slow continous bullshit that many people claim.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2011, 11:28:59 AM »
And Jamie, the Mentzer guys do train pretty hard, they just don't train very often. Serious question, how much lean muscle mass have you gained in the last 3 weeks? No man, I ain't hating on ya, I just trying to help you to see the whole point of this thread. And by the way, muscle growth DOES HAPPEN IN SPURTS, not this slow continous bullshit that many people claim.

Couple of pounds. My diet is awful at the moment and i am doing a lot of cardio. I will train volume and then a more HiT style say about three months each when i get my diet sorted to compare my results, i'm moving about a lot at the moment so it's difficult.

I agree about the muscle growth in spurts, at least thats the way that i always percieved it.
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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2011, 11:37:52 AM »
It's not about trying it for 6 months tallgerman. The whole point of this is that MUSCLE GROWTH SHOULD BE IMMEDIATE AND DRAMTIC, if training is conducted properly. If you don't get immediate results with your training, then something is wrong.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2011, 11:47:39 AM »
It's not about trying it for 6 months tallgerman. The whole point of this is that MUSCLE GROWTH SHOULD BE IMMEDIATE AND DRAMTIC, if training is conducted properly. If you don't get immediate results with your training, then something is wrong.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2011, 12:02:14 PM »
So what the fuck does that post have to do with the topic master blaster? Or is it just a fancy way of you saying that you are satisfied with your piss poor results ;D

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2011, 12:05:40 PM »
So what the fuck does that post have to do with the topic master blaster? Or is it just a fancy way of you saying that you are satisfied with your piss poor results ;D
That you are an annoying moronic fuck and you need to GTFO.

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2011, 12:57:05 PM »
Lots of haters in this thread. Oh well, if you are satisfied with you negligible and piss poor results then so be it. Me? Well, I'm not satisfied with piss poor results.

lol...what do you want us to post? That its possible?

Ok its possible, if you copy his exact training routine you'll also gain 15 lbs of muscle in 22 days...but don't forget to eat and take as many shits as he did..plus you'll need a young muscular guy to schmoe over.  ;D

Seriously though, from what I read Arthur Jones trained from a young age and probably those 15 lbs of muscle gains were from muscle memory.


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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2011, 01:27:31 PM »
Oh shit JP, you just cracked the riddle ;) MUSCLE MEMORY was/is the answer to this riddle ;D

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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2011, 03:19:30 PM »
dj181,

I don't post much here but read a lot, which unfortunately means that I am exposed to your bullshit a lot. You come across as an idiot who wants to desperately prove to himself that it is possible to build your dream physique without steroids. You have a huge fear that you will never look good as a result of your refusal (i.e. cowardice) not to roid up and are looking for the magic bullet, desperately.

I hope 2011 bring better luck to you, but in my opinion you are better of simply accepting what you look like and moving onto other endeavors in your life.


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Re: During the Colorado Experiment
« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2011, 03:37:51 PM »
Fair enough sub-7, cool nick by the way. But this ain't all about me and my twink 170 pound physique, I plan on getting back into the business of fitness training, and this also has to do with my business and money making ability as a fit trainer. You see, if I provide potential clients with a meaningful and productive product ie. helping them to achieve their goals very, very quickly then I will build a great rep for myself and make more and more cash. Yeah I know that many talk shit about fit trainers but that's their problem, not mine. So look at it this way, if my clients get great results then they will spread the word and I will get more and more clients, and more and more clients equals more and more cash for me. And what's wrong with trying to discover the truth?