goddamn this is really depressing!
i was happier than a pig in shit when i made this contact- i thought 'finally a 100% legit source for chinese GH'
fucking gay. i dont care if it tested out as real or not. thats not the point, you know? lol ah well.
Here's some chatter that went on a BOS regarding Hygetropin by RonnyT. I do remember reading that they did test the pin wheel tops and it tested out good. But like him, I don't like the fact that they took the Hygetropin name. As I understand it, all these guys at one time worked together. I think it was with the company that produced Jins. Then they broke off on their own. Similar to what I've read about Axio, GenXXL and Sciroxx. I think the ones who make the pin wheels also made Kefeis. It seems the a person name Dr. Lin is the main man and responsible for the Jins when it was good and then left to produce Hygetropin. I'll try to find the post where RonnyT comes back with the test for the pin wheels and that it came out good. They just should have used a different name. I think at one time they were called Hygene. They should have just stuck with that.
Originally Posted by RonnyT
I have contact with the owner of Hygetropin that also holds the license. These Hygetropins (with the wheels on top and without securitysticker) are not real. Confusing enough, some do contain real 191 aa rhGH and can be considdered as counterfeits. We will analyse both to find out the truth.
If you bought from a trustable source you can use them. The side effects will tell you if they contain real growth hormone.
Originally Posted by RonnyT
Few guys from the company try to convince our members to buy.
We did anlyse Mr Lin's rhGH (security etc) twice and it came out pure.
WE BOUGHT THE SAMPLES ON THE BLACK MARKET in Holland, which means LinDianhai was not in the position to offer us good gear he bought, but it was the product every costumer could have obtained.
Which doesn't mean BioHygene sells crap.
We bought some samples on the black market to analyse, but the company (BioHygene) mailed us the samples where counterfeited and even the chinese characters where not all okay.
We will analyse if we are able to buy samples on the black market for the new book. BioHygene also invited us to visit the plant.
We have some very good and reliable contacts in China and they told us many different brands are made by one manufacturer.
Blue tops used to be 10 iu but most of them today are just 4 iu.
You can't trust the colours of the tops.
Nor the package or the even the securityseals (Kefei offers them too)
THE FACT IS HYGETROPIN IS THE BRAINCHILD OF MR LIN WHO ALSO MARKETED AND HELP CREATE JINTROPIN WHICH WAS A HUGE SUCCES IN THE BODYBUILDING COMMUNITY. EVERY CHINESE COMPANY SAW HOW MUCH MONEY WAS CONFISCATED FROM THE ACCOUNTS OF GENESCIENCE/DR JIN.
THAT IS HOW MUCH MONEY CAN BE EARNED ON BODYBUILDING - ANTI-AGING - LIFE-EXTENSION etc.
THUS EVERY CHINESE COMPANY NOW WANTS A SLICE OF THE CAKE.
WE DON"T MIND...but..WE DON'T LIKE TO BE SCAMMED!!
Gisnb I read your posts on the life extension forum (LEF) David Garcia is also mentioned in this (attached) indictment just like GeneScience.
That´s right. Zhongshan Hygene can not officially say that they produce hygetropin. But the production process at Zhongsan Hygene is regulated under GMP standards. Hygene produce the rHGH with Hygetropin Label also in the Zhongshan factory. The only difference to the rHGH they produce for the chinese market is, that they put other labels, Hygetropin labels, on the vials.
China is no longer a thirdworld country. They strongly monitor the rhGH production. Do you think after all the troubles BioHygene had in the past they still have the nerve to produce Hygetropin in their own place. Where do you think Kefei (without GMP) but now with securityseal etc etc, produces his Hygetropin. And guess who produces the IGF that BioHygene sells ..could that be..?? Wake up bro's !! Lin made Jintropin a strong, cheap and reliable brand, after that he did the same with Hygetropin. After counterfeiting he protected both brands with security seals new tops etc. Now a few guys want to enter the market with Hightropin -Getropin-Hygene (do you're googling) but it didn't work. Now they hyjack Hygene's brandname and you guys reward them. When IP did the same with Karachi etc, everyone was angry. If they have such good products..let them prove it by marketing their own brand and make it succesfull. Counterfeiting an existing brand is NEVER the right way. It also shows they have no respect for the end-user.
An other aspect, they said our sample was not made by them, but my Chinese source claims different. Perhaps they are just afraid the quality is to low.I'll ask our sources and the SDFA to look into it.
You are correct, only we haven't analysed BioHygenes product. I can't reveil everything here and don't feel the need to, but I have serious doubts. Bill wants us to be able to prove what we state here. '
I mailed a lot with William, he even invited us to visit. Then I became some information and I forwarded it to William (BioHygene) but he doesn't mail me back. Then it is normal for me to believe there is some truth in it. You all know me, once I want to know, I don't rest untill I know.
I didn't say Hygetropin from BioHygene or Kefei is not good, because I dunno (yet). What bothers me is the fact that they decided to bring there own versions of Hygetropin, counterfeiting.
Not long ago everything was quite easy and everybody knew where Hygetropin came from and we analysed and posted the results. They (BioHygene) should have sticked to the brandnames they used before like Hygene or Getropin or Hightropin .
What brings me to the question: who has samples of those brands for me???
