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Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« on: January 17, 2011, 12:33:14 PM »

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Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
TNN, Nov 8, 2010, 01.14am IST

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/6885877.cms?prtpage=1


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MUMBAI: Implicitly acknowledging the decline of American dominance, Barack Obama on Sunday said the US was no longer in a position to "meet the rest of the world economically on our terms".

Speaking at a town hall meeting in Mumbai, he said, "I do think that one of the challenges that we are going face in the US, at a time when we are still recovering from the financial crisis is, how do we respond to some of the challenges of globalisation? The fact of the matter is that for most of my lifetime and I'll turn 50 next year - the US was such an enormously dominant economic power, we were such a large market, our industry, our technology, our manufacturing was so significant that we always met the rest of the world economically on our terms. And now because of the incredible rise of India and China and Brazil and other countries, the US remains the largest economy and the largest market, but there is real competition."

"This will keep America on its toes. America is going to have to compete. There is going to be a tug-of-war within the US between those who see globalisation as a threat and those who accept we live in a open integrated world, which has challenges and opportunities."

The US leader disagreed with those who saw globalisation as unmitigated evil. But while acknowledging that the Chindia factor had made the world flatter, he said protectionist impulses in US will get stronger if people don't see trade bringing in gains for them.

"If the American people feel that trade is just a one-way street where everybody is selling to the enormous US market but we can never sell what we make anywhere else, then the people of the US will start thinking that this is a bad deal for us and it could end up leading to a more protectionist instinct in both parties, not just among Democrats but also Republicans. So, that we have to guard against," he said.

He pointed out that America, which once traded without bothering about barriers put up by partners, could not promote trade at its own expense at a time when India and China were rising. "There has to be reciprocity in our trading relationships and if we can have those kind of conversations - fruitful, constructive conversation about how we produce win-win situations, then I think we will be fine."

Obama's remarks at the town hall meeting exposed his tremendous anxiety over the failure of his policies to spur the US economy fast enough and create jobs for Americans facing nearly 10% unemployment rate.

Obama, who just lost control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans, unbashedly said the objective of his visit was to find jobs for his voters. "I want to make sure we are here because this will create jobs in the US," he said, but stressed he was for a kind of relationship which will create jobs in India as well. As he put it: "A win-win proposition."

However, his frank remarks on the need for US to square up to Asian competitors may also suggest that the spectre of action against outsourcing may recede as protectionist impulses may have to be balanced by the need to bag contracts to deliver more jobs in America. Going by media reports in the US of his first day in India, his focus on jobs and investments was well received.

While replying to a question on how Republican gains would affect US policy towards India, he switched to a larger exposition of how he saw new realities shaping geo-politics and the economy. Saying the competition from India and China was potentially a good thing, Obama suggested that the US had to face up to a changing world order.

Responding to a query that his own message of change had been delivered to him by the American electorate, a thoughtful Obama said the last couple of years had been worse for the US economy than has been the case for decades. There had been progress but not fast enough. "Unemployment is high and people are frustrated," he said.

In the context of his efforts to revive the US economy, the president clearly sees, as he wrote in an article, India and China as key drivers of economic growth.

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 12:34:02 PM »
Yeah, this is reallythe guy you want in the fox hole wth you or the QB marching the team down the field.    ::)  ::)

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 05:20:11 AM »
He might be telling the truth ever thought of that?

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 05:24:51 AM »
He might be telling the truth ever thought of that?

Yeah, imagine Rex Ryan went into the locker room ad told the Jets - "the truth" that Brady was light years better than Sanchez, they Bellichik wasa master that the PATS were far better, but don't worry, just play around andsee what happens.   

What the fuck is that?

Maybe this communist c u n t r a g Obama should just resign already and hand over te reigns to someone wh actually is proud of their country and wants o fight to win.       

 

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 05:35:38 AM »
So you want him to lie?

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 05:42:41 AM »
So you want him to lie?

Dear God are you fucked in the head.   Seriously, no wonder we are screwed royally in this country with that type of mentality. 

Lets make a business analogy:  What if Nissan said somthing like "sue honda is probably more reliable, Hyundai gives a better warranty, and Toyota will last long, but oh yeah, come buy and purchase a Maxima or Pathfinder"   ? ? ?   

Would anyone have any faith in Nissan to go buy one?    NNNNOOOO.   


Its called being proud of your country and projecting strength.   Obama projects defeat, decay, and incompetence.   Thats it.         



     

   

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 05:49:00 AM »
So why are you bashing him when he says the economy is recovering then?

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 05:52:36 AM »
So why are you bashing him when he says the economy is recovering then?


Because he is telling the prtial truth - just that when he says it is recovering - he means for GS, AIG, BOA, etc, not many others.   

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 05:55:48 AM »

Because he is telling the prtial truth - just that when he says it is recovering - he means for GS, AIG, BOA, etc, not many others.   

Yeah but even if its not true he should say so anyway according to you. Because telling the truth would make america look weak? How are you gonna fix the problem if you dont want to acknowledge it?

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 05:59:40 AM »
Yeah but even if its not true he should say so anyway according to you. Because telling the truth would make america look weak? How are you gonna fix the problem if you dont want to acknowledge it?

Peple don't believe him because they see how his policies are hurting the economy.   There is no credibility behnid what he is saying.     

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 06:02:49 AM »
I agree however if he said the opposite, that the economy looked to be in bad shape, would you not slam him for expressing weaknesses related to the economy=country?

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2011, 06:43:33 AM »
So why are you bashing him when he says the economy is recovering then?

youre killin tha guy.. lighten up.. LMAO

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 07:15:11 AM »
33, youre gonna shit on obama no matter what.

He delivered an honest assessment when asked.   He said FACT that everyone is thinking.  If he had lied, you would have posted a pic of him as Baghdad bob, claiming we're the world money man, with the debt clock climbing behind him.

it's quite a pickle he's in, and methinks there's no move here you'd be happy with.

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 07:51:26 AM »
All you leftists including 240 shut the fuck up.

The fact is that American dominance is on the decline largely BECAUSE of Barak Hussein Osama. He has made America look weak and ineffective in foreign policy matters, denied American exceptionalism and apologized for imaginary slights, bowed to foreign tyrants and castigated our allies while assisting our enemies, he has weakened our currency, pushed forward an utterly incompatent social agenda coupled with suicidal economic policies, divided the populous more than any President in modern history-- And its only been two years.

He has either purposely (because he hates America and wants to see this country in decline) or accidentally (due to incompetence and inexperience) harmed this country; possibly irreparably. 

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 07:56:08 AM »
33, youre gonna shit on obama no matter what.

He delivered an honest assessment when asked.   He said FACT that everyone is thinking.  If he had lied, you would have posted a pic of him as Baghdad bob, claiming we're the world money man, with the debt clock climbing behind him.

it's quite a pickle he's in, and methinks there's no move here you'd be happy with.

Wrong 240.  When he pursues economic policies that don't amount to suicide and controlled demolition I will say so.

Obama has one goal, collapse the system and mak you idiots who are gullible for his scam feel ok about it.   

   

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 09:07:17 AM »
youre killin tha guy.. lighten up.. LMAO

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2011, 09:14:31 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2011, 11:50:03 AM »
The woes of the US are not solely to be put at Obama's feet; they are the result of monetary and foreign policies that have been in place for decades. Saying Obama is THE MAN responsible for everything going wrong is ridiculous and inaccurate.
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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2011, 11:53:01 AM »
He campaigned on "change" and doubled down on stupid and incompetence.

He hired Geither, Summers, Rubin, Romer, Orzag, et al - FAIL   

He spent a year and a half on Obamacare instead ofthe economy - FAIL   

He enacted policies greatly adding to inflationary pressures for food and energy - FFAAIILL   

     

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2011, 12:42:05 PM »
He campaigned on "change" and doubled down on stupid and incompetence.

He hired Geither, Summers, Rubin, Romer, Orzag, et al - FAIL   

He spent a year and a half on Obamacare instead ofthe economy - FAIL   

He enacted policies greatly adding to inflationary pressures for food and energy - FFAAIILL   

     

Sure, but he is not in charge of monetary policy for example.
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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2011, 01:59:35 PM »
All you leftists including 240 shut the fuck up.

The fact is that American dominance is on the decline largely BECAUSE of Barak Hussein Osama. He has made America look weak and ineffective in foreign policy matters, denied American exceptionalism and apologized for imaginary slights, bowed to foreign tyrants and castigated our allies while assisting our enemies, he has weakened our currency, pushed forward an utterly incompatent social agenda coupled with suicidal economic policies, divided the populous more than any President in modern history-- And its only been two years.

He has either purposely (because he hates America and wants to see this country in decline) or accidentally (due to incompetence and inexperience) harmed this country; possibly irreparably. 
Very accurate.

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 02:52:50 AM »
All you leftists including 240 shut the fuck up.

The fact is that American dominance is on the decline largely BECAUSE of Barak Hussein Osama. He has made America look weak and ineffective in foreign policy matters, denied American exceptionalism and apologized for imaginary slights, bowed to foreign tyrants and castigated our allies while assisting our enemies, he has weakened our currency, pushed forward an utterly incompatent social agenda coupled with suicidal economic policies, divided the populous more than any President in modern history-- And its only been two years.

He has either purposely (because he hates America and wants to see this country in decline) or accidentally (due to incompetence and inexperience) harmed this country; possibly irreparably. 
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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 02:56:19 AM »
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You really dont get what im saying today
We agree on the economics you know that what im saying is that according to you, if Obama came out saying the economy was bad he would be expressing weakness in our country and be a traitor, however if he says the economy is good you would call him a lier. You gotta decide you cant have it both ways.

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 07:02:09 AM »
You really dont get what im saying today
We agree on the economics you know that what im saying is that according to you, if Obama came out saying the economy was bad he would be expressing weakness in our country and be a traitor, however if he says the economy is good you would call him a lier. You gotta decide you cant have it both ways.

Thats the problem.. he wants it both ways.. Obama is either lazy and takes too many vacations and golfs too much, or Obama is hell bent and will stop at nothing to ensure the distruction of the world as we know it..

Basically its whatever makes our President look the worst at the time will fuel his argument of the day... as see through as a lace bra

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Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 07:05:59 AM »
Thats the problem.. he wants it both ways.. Obama is either lazy and takes too many vacations and golfs too much, or Obama is hell bent and will stop at nothing to ensure the distruction of the world as we know it..

Basically its whatever makes our President look the worst at the time will fuel his argument of the day... as see through as a lace bra

Ever hear of the 27 Czars like Sunstein, Holdren, Dunn, Wright, et al as well as the radical nuts he is putting in charge of the reulatory agencies like the FCC, EPA, DOJ etc?