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Not sure there is much of a changing trend.  I think the majority of Americans have disagreed with Obama's (and Planned Parenthood's) view on abortion for quite a while. 

On Roe V. Wade Anniversary, Abortion Foes Increasingly Confident of 'Cultural Shift'
Published January 22, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Anti-abortion activists in America head into their annual March for Life rallies confident that the huge election gains their allies made will lead to tougher restrictions in many states on the broad abortion access established 38 years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Opponents of abortion gained strength in Congress, among state governors and in many state legislatures, raising hopes among social conservatives for a broad surge of anti-abortion bills.

"We are seeing a cultural shift toward protecting life and rolling back the tide of unrestricted abortions, said Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life, in a statement ahead of Saturday's anniversary of the 1973 ruling.

Yoest and her allies have particularly high hopes for three types of bills under consideration in several states:

--Measures modeled after a Nebraska law passed last year that outlaws abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, based on the assertion that fetuses can feel pain after that point. That's a departure from the standards set by the Supreme Court decision Roe v Wade, which allow states to limit abortions when there's a viable chance the fetus could survive outside the womb, generally between 22 and 24 weeks.

--Bills requiring women to have an ultrasound prior to an abortion. Some versions would also require doctors to describe the ultrasound image of the fetus to the woman.

--Laws prohibiting abortion coverage in health insurance plans offered by the new state exchanges that are to commence in 2014 under President Obama's health care overhaul. Five states passed such measures last year; more may follow suit.

In many states, prospects for passage of such measures are bright, although they may face court challenges. NARAL Pro-Choice America, a leading abortion-rights group, said there are now 29 anti-abortion governors out of 50 -- an increase of eight, including 15 in states where abortion opponents also control both legislative chambers.

"In those states in particular, there are almost no pro-choice checks and balances," said Donna Crane, NARAL's director of public policy.

While abortion-rights supporters traditionally hold commemorations of the court decision, the anniversary has become an even higher-profile date for the anti-abortion movement. Its major event, the March for Life in Washington, D.C., is scheduled this year to take place on Monday -- not the anniversary itself -- while other events are scheduled throughout the weekend nationwide.

Obama issued a statement Saturday reaffirming his commitment to protecting abortion rights.

"I also remain committed to policies, initiatives, and programs that help prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant women and mothers, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption," he said.

"And on this anniversary, I hope that we will recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights, the same freedoms, and the same opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams."

On both sides of the debate, the mood contrasts sharply with 2009 and 2010.

Two years ago, the anniversary came two days after Obama's inauguration -- a time of enthusiasm among abortion-rights supporters, who tend to vote Democratic. A year ago, the anniversary coincided with the first day of testimony in the murder trial of Scott Roeder, who was later convicted of killing late-term abortion provider Dr. George Tiller at his church in Wichita, Kansas.

Kansas is now one of the states where anti-abortion activists hope for dramatic legislative gains.

Its new governor, Republican Sam Brownback, is an ardent foe of abortion who has made clear he will sign restrictive measures that his Democratic predecessors vetoed. Anti-abortion activists hope to advance bills that would further restrict late-term procedures, increase reporting requirements for abortion providers, and make it harder for abortion clinics to be licensed.

In several other states, Democratic governors who generally supported abortion rights were replaced by Republicans opposed to abortion, including the strategic swing states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

In Pennsylvania, the legislature is expected to convene hearings soon on why states agencies mishandled complaints about a Philadelphia abortion clinic run by a doctor now facing eight murder charges.

In some states, Republican governors and legislative leaders have said the message from the electorate on Nov. 2 was to concentrate on economics and job creation, and have signaled that social issues such as abortion should take a lower priority.

However, Daniel McConchie, vice president of government affairs for Americans United for Life, said there was no reason that Republican leaders couldn't tackle both the economy and abortion.

"For them to do nothing, when they have the opportunity to do something, I think would be problematic," he said. "Social conservatives are an integral part of the electorate."

At the federal level, anti-abortion forces scored significant gains in the House, and majority Republicans introduced two bills Thursday to toughen restrictions on taxpayer funding of abortions. One is aimed specifically at Obama's health care law; the other would establish a permanent, government-wide ban on federal subsidies for most abortions.

In addition, Republican Rep. Mike Pence has introduced a bill that would ban federal family-planning grants to any organization that performs abortions. It is aimed at the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, a health care provider and advocate of reproductive rights that last year, according to Pence, received more than $363 million in government grants and contracts while performing 324,008 abortions.

Abortion-rights supporters are nonetheless dismayed by their foes' clout in the House, though these measures might fail to clear the Senate, and would likely face a presidential veto if they did advance.

"We're taking all these threats very seriously," said Planned Parenthood public policy analyst Emily Stewart. "It's a crazy time, with a lot of stuff up in the air."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/22/roe-v-wade-anniversary-abortion-foes-increasingly-confident-cultural-shift/

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Not sure there is much of a changing trend.  I think the majority of Americans have disagreed with Obama's (and Planned Parenthood's) view on abortion for quite a while. 

looks like you're right

There's really been no major shift on either side since late ~ 1998


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looks like you're right

There's really been no major shift on either side since late ~ 1998


LOL just b/c youre pro choice doesnt mean youre not for more regulation straw man...

only your logic would lead you to that conclusion


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LOL just b/c youre pro choice doesnt mean youre not for more regulation straw man...
only your logic would lead you to that conclusion

oh brother

not you and teh logic again

btw - the first sentence is your post is hilarious


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oh brother

not you and teh logic again

btw - the first sentence is your post is hilarious


LMAO you disagree?

tell me what part im wrong about?

you think every person who labels themselves pro choice is against any sort of restrictions to abortion?

 ::) ::) ::)

MORAN!!!!!  ;D

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LMAO you disagree?

tell me what part im wrong about?

you think every person who labels themselves pro choice is against any sort of restrictions to abortion?

 ::) ::) ::)

MORAN!!!!!  ;D

another classic post

keep swinging slugger

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another classic post

keep swinging slugger
wow another post side stepping any questions and not disproving any ascertion by me...


















WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT?????????

LMFAO

MORAN

 ;D :D ;)

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Obama recalls Roe v. Wade, backs abortion rights
By David Jackson, USA TODAY



President Obama waves as he walks past the Marine One helicopter on the South Lawn of the White House on Friday. Obama backed abortion rights Saturday in a statement about the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.CAPTIONBy Yuri Gripas, AFP/Getty ImagesPresident Obama echoed his support for abortion rights today, the 38th anniversary of the Supreme Court's pro-choice decision in Roe v. Wade.

"Government should not intrude on private family matters," Obama said in a statement, adding that he also supports policies to prevented "unintended pregnancies."

The president made his statement as thousands of abortion opponents planned annual March for Life rallies, with many hoping that the new Republican-run House will enact new restrictions on the practice.

"We are seeing a cultural shift toward protecting life and rolling back the tide of unrestricted abortions," said Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life.

Obama's statement:

Today marks the 38th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that protects women's health and reproductive freedom, and affirms a fundamental principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters.

I am committed to protecting this constitutional right. I also remain committed to policies, initiatives, and programs that help prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant women and mothers, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption.

And on this anniversary, I hope that we will recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights, the same freedoms, and the same opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.



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Keep your laws off my body

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Keep your laws off my body

Yeah, lets start w obamacare - deal?

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Yeah, lets start w obamacare - deal?

 ;D

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Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!

Sex is murder!



oh never heard that one..Good one dingdong

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Keep your laws off my body
GIVE MEN EQUAL RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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GIVE MEN EQUAL RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh here we go ;D Okay I'll play. Let me guess, you men want a say before a woman terminates a pregnancy?

If not the case, when you can push a bowling ball out of an opening of a tennis ball, or get sliced below your gut and give life then you can bitch ;D

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Hey newmom-

a/ s / L?

I'm a 47 year old unemployed electrician with male pattern baldness in Toms River NJ. You seem to know a lot about working out and politics. Is there an Arby's in your area where we could meet?

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Hey newmom-

a/ s / L?

I'm a 47 year old unemployed electrician with male pattern baldness in Toms River NJ. You seem to know a lot about working out and politics. Is there an Arby's in your area where we could meet?

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oh here we go ;D Okay I'll play. Let me guess, you men want a say before a woman terminates a pregnancy?

If not the case, when you can push a bowling ball out of an opening of a tennis ball, or get sliced below your gut and give life then you can bitch ;D
NO NO NO, i want you to have to choice but if women get a choice to walk away from their child so should men

if its the womens choice then she and SHE ALONE(because its her choice alone) should be responsible for her actions...the man should only pay child support if he chooses to

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NO NO NO, i want you to have to choice but if women get a choice to walk away from their child so should men

if its the womens choice then she and SHE ALONE(because its her choice alone) should be responsible for her actions...the man should only pay child support if he chooses to

I get your point here with this .. and I agree

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I get your point here with this .. and I agree
:D ;)

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NO NO NO, i want you to have to choice but if women get a choice to walk away from their child so should men

if its the womens choice then she and SHE ALONE(because its her choice alone) should be responsible for her actions...the man should only pay child support if he chooses to

Never thought of that you are absolutely correct :D

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wow another post side stepping any questions and not disproving any ascertion by me...

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT?????????

LMFAO

MORAN

 ;D :D ;)

First - why do you keep calling me "MORAN"

You're so fucking stupid you can't even spell your insults correctly

Second, you do this all the time.  You make some, vague, often incomprehensible statement and then ask someone to disprove it.    This tactic is just a variation of the argument from ignorance.  If you want to make an assertion then PROVE it yourself.   

btw - here's a little tip for you to keep for future reference.

Every time you type the word "logic" you should take that as a sign that you've just said something stupid

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NO NO NO, i want you to have to choice but if women get a choice to walk away from their child so should men

if its the womens choice then she and SHE ALONE(because its her choice alone) should be responsible for her actions...the man should only pay child support if he chooses to

You're all about making things "fair" so how are we going to offset the burden that women face from pregnancy and childbirth.

The discomfort, the hormonal changes, not being able to drink,  the time off from work, the changes to their body, and the big one....the potential of death

Men don't have to deal with any of those issues.

Until we find a way that the woman can give the fetus to the man for him to carry to term then woman will always have the much larger burden and will have choices that men don't get

stop whining like a child and grow up

If you can't be responsible for your actions as an adult male then don't have sex

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First - why do you keep calling me "MORAN"

You're so fucking stupid you can't even spell your insults correctly

Second, you do this all the time.  You make some, vague, often incomprehensible statement and then ask someone to disprove it.    This tactic is just a variation of the argument from ignorance.  If you want to make an assertion then PROVE it yourself.   

btw - here's a little tip for you to keep for future reference.

Every time you type the word "logic" you should take that as a sign that you've just said something stupid

+ 1000000000

My personal favorite is when he "debates" in the form of a question to the other person, hoping they will make his own argument for him as he is incapable of it.

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First - why do you keep calling me "MORAN"

You're so fucking stupid you can't even spell your insults correctly

Second, you do this all the time.  You make some, vague, often incomprehensible statement and then ask someone to disprove it.    This tactic is just a variation of the argument from ignorance.  If you want to make an assertion then PROVE it yourself.   

btw - here's a little tip for you to keep for future reference.

Every time you type the word "logic" you should take that as a sign that you've just said something stupid
LOL its from some show, you have to ask hugo about it thats who i came across "moran" it is supposed to be spelled that way in reference to the way the person said it i think iono, ask huggy

LOL you cited a chart of ppl claiming if they are pro life or pro choice to state how nothing has really changed in regards to ppl wanting more or less regulation brain child

ppl can still be pro choice and want more regulation cant they? YES THEY CAN!!!!!!!

so simply b/c there hasnt been much change in the ppl that align themselves with pro choice or life doesnt mean there isnt a greater change in those ppl that want more regulation...

LOGIC... :D ;) ;D