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Soul Crusher · « **Reply #150 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:20:44 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 12:11:58 PM

are you his spokesperson?

Yes.

bears · « **Reply #151 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:23:17 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 12:14:04 PM

what does the medical community say?

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and come on. just admit that you don't care if people kill their babies. you don't.

at the end of the day I know what I think is right and wrong. But i'm not going to act like I really care if you go out and get an abortion this afternoon. I honestly don't care if you kill your 3 year old either. I know that sounds harsh but it's true.

I don't lie to myself. I know what is right and how I want to live and how I want to teach my children to live. And that's all i know. You liberals stretch the boundaries of logic as far as you can in order to make your lives easier but still feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I live in the real world. Bad shit happens and I try to make the best out of it.

tonymctones · « **Reply #152 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:31:06 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on January 25, 2011, 10:03:15 AM

IF IF IF, you moron....

the women isnt held responsible SHE CHOOOOOSSSESSSS to be responsible

THE MAN IS HELD RESPONSIBLE

still waiting for a response to this straw...

how do we hold the woman responsible?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #153 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:32:48 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on January 25, 2011, 12:31:06 PM

still waiting for a response to this straw...

how do we hold the woman responsible?

9mm

Dr Loomis · « **Reply #154 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:41:01 PM »

outlaw abortion and institute sterilization

Straw Man · « **Reply #155 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:01:44 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 12:23:17 PM

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and come on. just admit that you don't care if people kill their babies. you don't.

at the end of the day I know what I think is right and wrong. But i'm not going to act like I really care if you go out and get an abortion this afternoon. I honestly don't care if you kill your 3 year old either. I know that sounds harsh but it's true.

I don't lie to myself. I know what is right and how I want to live and how I want to teach my children to live. And that's all i know. You liberals stretch the boundaries of logic as far as you can in order to make your lives easier but still feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I live in the real world. Bad shit happens and I try to make the best out of it.

I'm not in favor of killing babies but I already said that I don't view a cluster of cells as a baby

you yourself wrote this yet you call me insane for not "calling it what is" .....i.e. calling it what you choose to call it

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 12:14:55 PM

no hard agreement among the medical community. many different opinions.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #156 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:03:52 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 12:23:17 PM

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and come on. just admit that you don't care if people kill their babies. you don't.

at the end of the day I know what I think is right and wrong. But i'm not going to act like I really care if you go out and get an abortion this afternoon. I honestly don't care if you kill your 3 year old either. I know that sounds harsh but it's true.

I don't lie to myself. I know what is right and how I want to live and how I want to teach my children to live. And that's all i know. You liberals stretch the boundaries of logic as far as you can in order to make your lives easier but still feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I live in the real world. Bad shit happens and I try to make the best out of it.

Speaking the truth, again. This is part of the problem with the abortion question. People dehumanize the baby to help justify killing it. On the other hand, many pro life people ignore the woman's bodily integrity issue.

bears · « **Reply #157 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:10:28 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 02:01:44 PM

I'm not in favor of killing babies but I already said that I don't view a cluster of cells as a baby

you yourself wrote this yet you call me insane for not "calling it what is" .....i.e. calling it what you choose to call it

hey whatever allows you to sleep at night i guess. even though i think deep down you know your logic is flawed.

Straw Man · « **Reply #158 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:20:37 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on January 25, 2011, 12:31:06 PM

still waiting for a response to this straw...

how do we hold the woman responsible?

hey dipshit - I answered your question the first time you asked it

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 09:50:01 AM

are you joking

if a women gives birth (and doesn't give it up for adoption) then BOTH she and the father are responsible for supporting the kid

are you not actually aware of this?

Straw Man · « **Reply #159 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:23:28 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:10:28 PM

hey whatever allows you to sleep at night i guess. even though i think deep down you know your logic is flawed.

well like you said the medical community is not in agreement either and they more than anyone should know the answer

your basic position is that you're against abortion because you think it's killing babies

I don't agree with you and ~ half the country doesn't agree with you either

bears · « **Reply #160 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:30:50 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 02:23:28 PM

well like you said the medical community is not in agreement either and they more than anyone should know the answer

your basic position is that you're against abortion because you think it's killing babies

I don't agree with you and ~ half the country doesn't agree with you either

the medical community is in disagreement on what a late term abortion is. they all know that it's a baby. they just don't have a set number of weeks into gestation where the baby is viable. because thats what the definition of "late term" comes from. so i guess thats what i meant when i said the medical community is not in agreement on whether its a baby. of course they know its a baby. thats why they do ultrasounds and tests on the fetus. if it wasn't a baby, why the hell would they be doing tests on it?

half the country is in favor of abortion. they don't ALL lie to themselves that its not actually a baby.

you are just playing with words now because your logic is just not standing on firm ground.

bears · « **Reply #161 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:33:47 PM »

by the way, when was the last time you went to a cluster of cells shower? what did you get for the cluster of cells?

do you think women are stupid because they throw a baby shower for something thats not even a baby?

half kidding.

bears · « **Reply #162 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:34:43 PM »

just curious too. do you think it was unfair for Scott Peterson to be convicted of 2 murders?

Straw Man · « **Reply #163 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:35:50 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:34:43 PM

just curious too. do you think it was unfair for Scott Peterson to be convicted of 2 murders?

how far along was his wife?

bears · « **Reply #164 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:37:56 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 02:35:50 PM

how far along was his wife?

how far along would she need to be for you to consider it a murder?

bears · « **Reply #165 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:44:32 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:37:56 PM

how far along would she need to be for you to consider it a murder?

she was 30 weeks

Straw Man · « **Reply #166 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:50:29 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:37:56 PM

how far along would she need to be for you to consider it a murder?

whatever the number is where she can't legally get an abortion

bears · « **Reply #167 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:50:55 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:44:32 PM

she was 30 weeks

and there's nothing set in stone about how many weeks someone has to be i don't think.

bears · « **Reply #168 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:54:45 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 02:50:29 PM

whatever the number is where she can't legally get an abortion

come on man will you please just have one fucking god damn original thought in this debate!!!!??? give me YOUR opinion. not Congress' opinion. it's OK to have an opinion of your own you know. You'll be OK.

bears · « **Reply #169 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:56:11 PM »

i mean you make fun of religious people having blind faith. isn't that just what you're doing? except you use Congressmen as your God. Sheesh.

newmom · « **Reply #170 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:58:22 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:44:32 PM

she was 30 weeks

I thought she was a tad further along than that but you're probably right. If I'm not mistaken, I think some states view unborn child as murder if it could possible live outside the womb at the time of the murder. AND fuck yes IMO he deserved to be convicted of double homicide, PIECE of shit

Straw Man · « **Reply #171 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:58:26 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:54:45 PM

come on man will you please just have one fucking god damn original thought in this debate!!!!??? give me YOUR opinion. not Congress' opinion. it's OK to have an opinion of your own you know. You'll be OK.

are you joking

you asked me a question and I gave you my answer and it turns out you don't even know up to how many weeks it's legally allowed either and you're criticizing me for not having an original thought?

Straw Man · « **Reply #172 on:** January 25, 2011, 02:59:57 PM »

Quote from: bears on January 25, 2011, 02:56:11 PM

i mean you make fun of religious people having blind faith. isn't that just what you're doing? except you use Congressmen as your God. Sheesh.

how is my position (I agree with the current laws) equivalent to religious blind faith?

When did I mention my congressperson or God

you're going off the rails

Straw Man · « **Reply #173 on:** January 25, 2011, 03:02:27 PM »

Quote from: newmom on January 25, 2011, 02:58:22 PM

I thought she was a tad further along than that but you're probably right. If I'm not mistaken, I think some states view unborn child as murder if it could possible live outside the womb at the time of the murder. AND fuck yes IMO he deserved to be convicted of double homicide, PIECE of shit

that's what I thought too

I recall seeing photos where she looked very pregnant

Also, she wasn't choosing to have an abortion given that she was very fair along and intended to have the baby I would definitely say it was murder

I honestly can't think of much of anything more horrible than killing your own pregnant wife

hopefully that guy will be killed in jail before his execution date

bears · « **Reply #174 on:** January 25, 2011, 03:05:52 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 25, 2011, 03:02:27 PM

that's what I thought too

I recall seeing photos where she looked very pregnant

Also, she wasn't choosing to have an abortion given that she was very fair along and intended to have the baby I would definitely say it was murder

I honestly can't think of much of anything more horrible than killing your own pregnant wife

hopefully that guy will be killed in jail before his execution date

Um 30 weeks is 7 and a half months you guys. you guys don't think thats far along? jesus what's late term to you guys. does the kid need a fucking driver's license? so straw now your definition of a baby falls on the mother's intentions with said baby?