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[bears]

how is my position (I agree with the current laws) equivalent to religious blind faith?

When did I mention my congressperson or God

you're going off the rails

because your opinion is completely hinged upon what the current law is.  i ask you about your morals and you reply with, "well what does the law say?"  are you kidding ME?

[Straw Man]

because your opinion is completely hinged upon what the current law is.  i ask you about your morals and you reply with, "well what does the law say?"  are you kidding ME?

where did you ask about my morals

I didn't see that post from you

[bears]

where did you ask about my morals

I didn't see that post from you

when i asked you how far along a woman needed to be for you to call it murder.  thats essentially a moral question.  you responded with whatever the number is where you can't legally get an abortion.  thats just weak on so many levels.

[newmom]

quick google search..He was convicted of second degree murder for baby conner..She was 7 and half months..many babies are born at this time and can live outside the womb, mostly in nic u but can lead healthy lives..

this smug mother fucker

[Straw Man]

when i asked you how far along a woman needed to be for you to call it murder.  thats essentially a moral question.  you responded with whatever the number is where you can't legally get an abortion.  thats just weak on so many levels.

It not my choice what to call something murder and it's not yours either

we dont' call bombing innocent people murder but I would call it that if it were my choice

I would call the Peterson case murder of the baby because she was beyond the point where she could get a legal abortion and becasue she had no intention of getting an abortion

[Soul Crusher]

quick google search..He was convicted of second degree murder for baby conner..She was 7 and half months..many babies are born at this time and can live outside the womb, mostly in nic u but can lead healthy lives..

this smug mother fucker

I would vote for Scott Peterson / Joran VanderSloot over obama in 2012 if given the chance and choice.

[bears]

quick google search..He was convicted of second degree murder for baby conner..She was 7 and half months..many babies are born at this time and can live outside the womb, mostly in nic u but can lead healthy lives..

this smug mother fucker

if he did the same thing in 2003 before Bush signed The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 straw would have had no problem with what he did.  Straw would have deferred to the law and concluded that Scott Peterson only killed one person.

[newmom]

I would vote for Scott Peterson / Joran VanderSloot over obama in 2012 if given the chance and choice.

are you fucking for real?

[Soul Crusher]

are you fucking for real?

Yes.   Easily.   Both are already in jail where bama belongs and they could spend no more money, pass no laws, not embarass us in the WH, etc.   

[newmom]

Yes.   Easily.   Both are already in jail where bama belongs and they could spend no more money, pass no laws, not embarass us in the WH, etc.   

oh you kill me with LOL sometimes..

[newmom]

It not my choice what to call something murder and it's not yours either

we dont' call bombing innocent people murder but I would call it that if it were my choice

I would call the Peterson case murder of the baby because she was beyond the point where she could get a legal abortion and becasue she had no intention of getting an abortion

But on the flip side of this Straw, their have been cases and again I'm not going to google or go to lexus nexus to get court cases or anything. But some men have murdered a woman who was pregnant at 3 months along (think it was florida) and got absolute shit for the unborn baby. She wanted the child he didn't.

[bears]

It not my choice what to call something murder and it's not yours either

we dont' call bombing innocent people murder but I would call it that if it were my choice

I would call the Peterson case murder of the baby because she was beyond the point where she could get a legal abortion and becasue she had no intention of getting an abortion

not at that time.  depended upon what state you lived in at that time.  At that time you could kill a baby as long as it didnt take a breath in a lot of states.  so they pull a 30 week old baby out of the womb breach on purpose and smash the brains with forceps.  baby never took a breath.  therefore it is NOT a baby.  nice and neat.  although there are a few cases of the baby surviving.  in which case that logic simply folds.

[bears]

But on the flip side of this Straw, their have been cases and again I'm not going to google or go to lexus nexus to get court cases or anything. But some men have murdered a woman who was pregnant at 3 months along (think it was florida) and got absolute shit for the unborn baby. She wanted the child he didn't.

yeah i think they were only able to be charged with assault.  i think there was one where the guy got probation.

[newmom]

yeah i think they were only able to be charged with assault.  i think there was one where the guy got probation.

and how did that crazy bitch in texas get off murdering her 4 kids in the bath tub..UH I think it was 4 kids...Oh yea she was nuts

[bears]

not at that time.  depended upon what state you lived in at that time.  At that time you could kill a baby as long as it didnt take a breath in a lot of states.  so they pull a 30 week old baby out of the womb breach on purpose and smash the brains with forceps.  baby never took a breath.  therefore it is NOT a baby.  nice and neat.  although there are a few cases of the baby surviving.  in which case that logic simply folds.

and straw this is the logic you subscribe to.

[tonymctones]

hey dipshit - I answered your question the first time you asked it

and i replied...

again SHE CHOOSES to take responsibility as she has the chance to walk away

the man is held responsible

so I ask you again how do we hold women responsible?

[tonymctones]

the medical community is in disagreement on what a late term abortion is.  they all know that it's a baby.  they just don't have a set number of weeks into gestation where the baby is viable.  because thats what the definition of "late term" comes from.  so i guess thats what i meant when i said the medical community is not in agreement on whether its a baby.  of course they know its a baby.  thats why they do ultrasounds and tests on the fetus.  if it wasn't a baby, why the hell would they be doing tests on it?

half the country is in favor of abortion.  they don't ALL lie to themselves that its not actually a baby.

you are just playing with words now because your logic is just not standing on firm ground.

lol same thing he tried to do with ppls views on regulations of abortions and their pro life/choice stance

[tonymctones]

if he did the same thing in 2003 before Bush signed The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 straw would have had no problem with what he did.  Straw would have deferred to the law and concluded that Scott Peterson only killed one person.

LOL qft

[bears]

and how did that crazy bitch in texas get off murdering her 4 kids in the bath tub..UH I think it was 4 kids...Oh yea she was nuts

which is a whole other thread that we could discuss for an entire year.

[newmom]

which is a whole other thread that we could discuss for an entire year.

true indeed bears

[muscleforlife]

and i replied...

again SHE CHOOSES to take responsibility as she has the chance to walk away

the man is held responsible

so I ask you again how do we hold women responsible?

Simple.
Don't have sex with women you don't want to have children with.
Sandra

[tonymctones]

why is that same rule not applied to the women sandra?

[bears]

true indeed bears

we should start that one.  That is one issue where i can confidently say that I have no idea what to do or even where i stand on the issue.

[George Whorewell]

you're a lawyer?

You're a swift one aren't you.

And Newmom-- For a scant 3 thousand dollar per month investment, you too can experience a restricted Lexis Nexis account. Or we can sift through the trash of a local law school and look for a lexis nexis law student access code card that will give us full account privileges for free. I'll do my part. I happen to stalk a cafeteria worker at Fordham law school from my silver tinted white Dodge Astro van 3-5x per week. I know exactly where and when there is garbage removal. Care to join me on a date? I keep a can of "Oust" in the passengers seat next to my duct tape and pepper spray. We could grab some takeout from the 24 hour KFC/ Pizza Hut two blocks away from campus.

[Soul Crusher]

You're a swift one aren't you.

And Newmom-- For a scant 3 thousand dollar per month investment, you too can experience a restricted Lexis Nexis account. Or we can sift through the trash of a local law school and look for a lexis nexis law student access code card that will give us full account privileges for free. I'll do my part. I happen to stalk a cafeteria worker at Fordham law school from my silver tinted white Dodge Astro van 3-5x per week. I know exactly where and when there is garbage removal. Care to join me on a date? I keep a can of "Oust" in the passengers seat next to my duct tape and pepper spray. We could grab some takeout from the 24 hour KFC/ Pizza Hut two blocks away from campus.

  


Or the White Castle across from the Main Campus in the Bronx (My stomping grounds).