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well... just wanted to share my results... i'm copying and pasting this from another board i put this on

well... i'm not done yet... it's been 12 weeks now and i think it's about time i tell you about what i've found out. the first 3 weeks, i was eating something like this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml), 10 tbsp oats, some honey

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)... when i'm done with this, i'd eat some pasta or rice til i'm full.

after those 3 weeks, i took a week off cuz it was the eid holidays... no training and eating a lot of junk... then week 5 i started this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml)

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)

same thing but without the carbs in breakfast or dinner.... a couple of days later i got sick of chicken and it started hurting my teeth, so i changed the last meal to 250 grams of lean beef made into kababs with 400 ml laban.

the way i calculated it... it's around 1700 calories and 180 grams of protein or so....
from week 5-8, i would cheat monday night with something like KFC and some cake or some pizza from dominos... and wednesday night, i'd start eating whatever i want in reasonable quantities til friday night. after week 8, i just cancelled the cheat meal on monday.

training was 20 sets per muscle, 50-60 seconds rest between sets, hit every muscle twice a week except for legs (cuz i'm lazy and i hate training them)... I started cardio at 20 minutes after my workout on week 5 or so, and 3 weeks ago i took it up to 40 minutes (15% incline, 3.2 mph)...

drugs... well... keep in mind i'm usually at 1500 mg... but this time, i took it down a notch...
weeks 1-3 dbol 70 mg 5 days per week
week 1-now 750 mg test
week 5- 2days ago 75 mg tren a (sat, mon, and wed only)... i usually miss an injection or two every week... very inconsistent.
today i started winny at 50 mg planning on 5 days on 2 off for 4 weeks

fat burners = a lot

training usually lasts 100-120 minutes from sat til wed and i take thu and fri off.... well... here are the pics

left-->start = 84.5 kg, 36 inch waist
center --> 5 weeks later at 90.5 kg, 34.5 inch waist
right--> 91 kg, 32 inch waist

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 09:52:26 AM »
Damn good progress man.

Much bigger/fuller.plus a lot leaner and harder looking.

PROPS!!!  :)

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 09:56:54 AM »
lot of ghona maybe  :-\

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 10:10:00 AM »
Be careful man, you might go and meet Okami in "Time Out" for telling the truth.

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 10:27:02 AM »
Great progress man!

I don't get what you mean by taking it down on the drugs though.  Your still at 1300 mgs unless I'm reading it wrong, and more if you are adding the winny on top of the tren instead of replacing it. 


What "fat burners" are you on, and what exactly is "a lot"?


Keep up the hard work!

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 10:36:35 AM »
real truth and honesty and good progress,1st pic was clean?and for how long.and you compete steady or take breaks.

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 10:36:54 AM »
lot of ghona maybe  :-\

I wish!!!
i don't have money for GHona... just sustanona and trenobologna...  :(
much faster fat burning with GHona

Great progress man!

I don't get what you mean by taking it down on the drugs though.  Your still at 1300 mgs unless I'm reading it wrong, and more if you are adding the winny on top of the tren instead of replacing it.  


What "fat burners" are you on, and what exactly is "a lot"?


Keep up the hard work!

you calculated it wrong... first 3 weeks was 750 test + 70 mg dbol for 5 days per week = 1100 total
then after that... 750 test + 225 tren per week (i miss a lot of injections so it's a lot less than that, but let's say i didn't miss any) = 975 mg
and now... 750 test + 250 winny = 1000 mg....

and the fat burners... well... ok  :)
right now im up to 180 mcg T3, 320 mcg clen, and 120 mg ephedrine 5 days a week.... it's a lot, but i have a VERY high tolerance for dem shits.

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 10:39:04 AM »
I wish!!!
i don't have money for GHona... just sustanona and trenobologna...  :(
much faster fat burning with GHona

you calculated it wrong... first 3 weeks was 750 test + 70 mg dbol for 5 days per week = 1100 total
then after that... 750 test + 225 tren per week (i miss a lot of injections so it's a lot less than that, but let's say i didn't miss any) = 975 mg
and now... 750 test + 250 winny = 1000 mg....

and the fat burners... well... ok  :)
right now im up to 180 mcg T3, 320 mcg clen, and 120 mg ephedrine 5 days a week.... it's a lot, but i have a VERY high tolerance for dem shits.
wow! i would have a cardiac arrest with all this shit.  ;D

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 10:48:26 AM »
Hell yes!!!! I love it when someone destroys all the myths about having to eat shit loads of food and protein AND over training. Other than the fat burners this is what I have done with a ton of the guys I have trained and it works everytime. It's just a matter of slight adjustments to your calories and obviously supps. Props to Buselmo.  :)

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 11:37:30 AM »
well... just wanted to share my results... i'm copying and pasting this from another board i put this on

well... i'm not done yet... it's been 12 weeks now and i think it's about time i tell you about what i've found out. the first 3 weeks, i was eating something like this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml), 10 tbsp oats, some honey

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)... when i'm done with this, i'd eat some pasta or rice til i'm full.

after those 3 weeks, i took a week off cuz it was the eid holidays... no training and eating a lot of junk... then week 5 i started this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml)

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)

same thing but without the carbs in breakfast or dinner.... a couple of days later i got sick of chicken and it started hurting my teeth, so i changed the last meal to 250 grams of lean beef made into kababs with 400 ml laban.

the way i calculated it... it's around 1700 calories and 180 grams of protein or so....
from week 5-8, i would cheat monday night with something like KFC and some cake or some pizza from dominos... and wednesday night, i'd start eating whatever i want in reasonable quantities til friday night. after week 8, i just cancelled the cheat meal on monday.

training was 20 sets per muscle, 50-60 seconds rest between sets, hit every muscle twice a week except for legs (cuz i'm lazy and i hate training them)... I started cardio at 20 minutes after my workout on week 5 or so, and 3 weeks ago i took it up to 40 minutes (15% incline, 3.2 mph)...

drugs... well... keep in mind i'm usually at 1500 mg... but this time, i took it down a notch...
weeks 1-3 dbol 70 mg 5 days per week
week 1-now 750 mg test
week 5- 2days ago 75 mg tren a (sat, mon, and wed only)... i usually miss an injection or two every week... very inconsistent.
today i started winny at 50 mg planning on 5 days on 2 off for 4 weeks

fat burners = a lot

training usually lasts 100-120 minutes from sat til wed and i take thu and fri off.... well... here are the pics

left-->start = 84.5 kg, 36 inch waist
center --> 5 weeks later at 90.5 kg, 34.5 inch waist
right--> 91 kg, 32 inch waist

Nice post, but lost respect for you when you got to the drug protocol part

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 11:38:34 AM »
I wish!!!
i don't have money for GHona... just sustanona and trenobologna...  :(
much faster fat burning with GHona

you calculated it wrong... first 3 weeks was 750 test + 70 mg dbol for 5 days per week = 1100 total
then after that... 750 test + 225 tren per week (i miss a lot of injections so it's a lot less than that, but let's say i didn't miss any) = 975 mg
and now... 750 test + 250 winny = 1000 mg....

and the fat burners... well... ok  :)
right now im up to 180 mcg T3, 320 mcg clen, and 120 mg ephedrine 5 days a week.... it's a lot, but i have a VERY high tolerance for dem shits.

Interesting post....

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 11:41:32 AM »
well i have said it a thousand times.. everytime i try and get my protein up to 250 grams a day and eat 5-6 meals i get the shits and also get fatter..  when i eat three big meals a day and a shake i do well.. sometime only two meals and two shakes.. i think guys like kai and a few others that can consume lotys of food and not get fat and are able to digest it are at a big advantage.. but they are not the norm..

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM »
wow! i would have a cardiac arrest with all this shit.  ;D

while the numbers are high you have to factor what UG lab he gets his clen and t3 from as well

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 11:52:05 AM »
bulsemo how was your strength during the diet/transformation?

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 11:52:51 AM »

great post buselmo.

food for thought- even though you had not used GH to make this progress, do you believe that someone who has never used it before could make the kind of gains you are seeing?

i think a lot of guys who have used GH long enough can go off for periods and still experience tremendous growth.

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 12:13:08 PM »
awesome transformation bro!

you are definetely a breath of fresh air here on these boards!

keep up the good work dispelling myths and making gains!

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 12:31:39 PM »
I wish!!!
i don't have money for GHona... just sustanona and trenobologna...  :(
much faster fat burning with GHona

you calculated it wrong... first 3 weeks was 750 test + 70 mg dbol for 5 days per week = 1100 total
then after that... 750 test + 225 tren per week (i miss a lot of injections so it's a lot less than that, but let's say i didn't miss any) = 975 mg
and now... 750 test + 250 winny = 1000 mg....

and the fat burners... well... ok  :)
right now im up to 180 mcg T3, 320 mcg clen, and 120 mg ephedrine 5 days a week.... it's a lot, but i have a VERY high tolerance for dem shits.

OK, I see I misread on the juice dosages so yeah, that is pretty reasonable.  As for the clen, and ephedrine.....HOLY FUCKING SHIT!  is all I can say.

I think back to when I used to get spiropent years ago.  They were 20mcg pills in 10 pack foil strips.  Noone would have ever thought back then to be crazy enough to take more than 1 1/2 strips per day.....and then to stack 5 ephedrine pills on top of it???  Jeezus dude, you should keep a defibrilator with how to use instructions in a backpack with you at all times.  I'd type LOL, but I am seriously scared for you.  Just cause you have a "very high tolerance" for those things as far as jitters and shit goes, DOES NOT MEAN that you aren't doing some serious damage to your heart dude.

Be careful dude!

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 01:46:00 PM »
 big muscle=strong muscle.



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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 03:51:32 PM »
the way to cover them legs up! Wheels your size are generally found only in the wheel chair shows. 

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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2011, 03:57:29 PM »
I wish!!!
i don't have money for GHona... just sustanona and trenobologna...  :(
much faster fat burning with GHona

you calculated it wrong... first 3 weeks was 750 test + 70 mg dbol for 5 days per week = 1100 total
then after that... 750 test + 225 tren per week (i miss a lot of injections so it's a lot less than that, but let's say i didn't miss any) = 975 mg
and now... 750 test + 250 winny = 1000 mg....

and the fat burners... well... ok  :)
right now im up to 180 mcg T3, 320 mcg clen, and 120 mg ephedrine 5 days a week.... it's a lot, but i have a VERY high tolerance for dem shits.

Can you kind of summarize your main point? Is the idea that working out longer and keeping diet very simple is best?

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2011, 05:48:26 PM »

Ok, so what you're telling me is, that increasing anabolic drug amount will improve nutrient partitioning and lower food intake will increase feed/digestion efficiency by ways of not slowing down the entire digestive system will ungodly amounts of pointless excess protein, carbs, fiber, and fats?


Because I've got a 3 cups of oatmeal, 2 cups of rice with 6tbsp of olive oil, 16oz of chicken, and a 75g whey shake here that's about to be my "meal 3", and I just want to grow man...




Good work.  ;)

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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2011, 06:18:55 PM »
Great posts Buselmo ;)
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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2011, 06:32:29 PM »
Nice post, but lost respect for you when you got to the drug protocol part
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Re: 3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2011, 06:36:36 PM »
Buselmo great work bro  8)
Are you still eating whatever you want on the weekends ?

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2011, 08:02:03 PM »
Ok, so what you're telling me is, that increasing anabolic drug amount will improve nutrient partitioning and lower food intake will increase feed/digestion efficiency by ways of not slowing down the entire digestive system will ungodly amounts of pointless excess protein, carbs, fiber, and fats?


Because I've got a 3 cups of oatmeal, 2 cups of rice with 6tbsp of olive oil, 16oz of chicken, and a 75g whey shake here that's about to be my "meal 3", and I just want to grow man...



Good work.  ;)

the bolded is supposed to be sarcastic, right??