3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results

[dj181]

Thanks for sharing buselmo

[buselmo]

You say that you use moderate weights, but for someone your size, these are infact very light weights.  Do you feel that you would have better results if you trained heavier with more intensity?  I mean your squats and bb rows must feel as light as a feather?  I was just curious because u mentioned that you're a lazy trainer?

I have trained with heavy weights for around 4 years, and this is the only time i've used moderate (light) weights...
I do admit that i probably get 10% better results with heavy weights to failure and very low volume with high frequency (train each muscle twice a week, 3 sets per muscle to failure), but i've developed so many aches and pains from that shit it's not even funny... my neck hurts all the time, knees hurt, right shoulder got fucked real bad a couple of years and i was forced to bring down the weights... but at my strongest my weights were
decline bench: 365 lbs for 8 reps or so
barbell rows: 315 lbs for 6 or so reps
squats: 495 lbs (just a bit above parallel) for 6 reps

shit like that.

training with lighter weights has been a blessing on my joints and neck

not a fair comparison since i just finished up a couple of contests then went on a shit ton of GH, slin, 1.5 g test, and around 150 mg anadrol a day... but here's a pic a year and a half ago of how i looked like training low volume... GH was at 16 iu eod for 4 weeks or so, and slin was at 30-45 iu with the GH days

[Meso_z]

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge

[Fatpanda]

im using NPP now- great for cutting- just a fucking amazing compound altogether. if this keeps up it'll take away my number one spot reserved for tren ace.

yes its working wonders

[tbombz]

I have trained with heavy weights for around 4 years, and this is the only time i've used moderate (light) weights...
I do admit that i probably get 10% better results with heavy weights to failure and very low volume with high frequency (train each muscle twice a week, 3 sets per muscle to failure), but i've developed so many aches and pains from that shit it's not even funny... my neck hurts all the time, knees hurt, right shoulder got fucked real bad a couple of years and i was forced to bring down the weights... but at my strongest my weights were
decline bench: 365 lbs for 8 reps or so
barbell rows: 315 lbs for 6 or so reps
squats: 495 lbs (just a bit above parallel) for 6 reps

shit like that.

training with lighter weights has been a blessing on my joints and neck

not a fair comparison since i just finished up a couple of contests then went on a shit ton of GH, slin, 1.5 g test, and around 150 mg anadrol a day... but here's a pic a year and a half ago of how i looked like training low volume... GH was at 16 iu eod for 4 weeks or so, and slin was at 30-45 iu with the GH days

you loo good there man. and it was because you were a strong beast, not because you were loaded on drugs. do long warm ups, light weight cool downs, and lots of stretching with some mild cardio too in order to keep your joints lubed and injury free. moderate weights work ok, like you already know, but the body is forced to respon when its lifting a heavier weight than whats its used to.

btw, props on being completely honest all the time.

[no one]

damn really ??
tren ace (or enanthate) fucking rocks

yeah dude. you know ace is my favourite, but the npp is something else. its giving me a lot of the same sides of tren- the nervous energy you get around week 3 when your running tren, when you go in the gym and can just bang out set after set and not get tired? the bad side is the insomnia. psychologically theres no short fuse like with tren, and physically the hardness of the muscle isnt there like with tren, but its taking on a more full, rounder look which i much prefer anyway. like tren theres no water issues to worry about either. feel amazing. great compound. they both share a lot of the same attributes, but give a totally different look.

[Schmoe Buster]

yes its working wonders

Please get the fuck out of this thread

Dont ruin it for the rest of us

[buselmo]

you loo good there man. and it was because you were a strong beast, not because you were loaded on drugs. do long warm ups, light weight cool downs, and lots of stretching with some mild cardio too in order to keep your joints lubed and injury free. moderate weights work ok, like you already know, but the body is forced to respon when its lifting a heavier weight than whats its used to.

btw, props on being completely honest all the time.

nah... trust me bro, it was because i was loaded on the juice. as i said before, i spent 4 years training as heavy as possible... I usually go really high on the anabolics, GH and slin right before I go on vacation (4-6 weeks)... I usually come off of everything for 2-3 months after the vacation, so i just make sure i'm cleaning house before i leave  ... that's when i usually see the gains. training and diet don't change... strength is usually the same... but weight starts shooting up and so does size.

the reason i had all those injuries was becuase i tried forcing myself to get strong... you don't force yourself to get stronger, you naturally get stronger with more gear...

and i don't jump immediately on working sets... let's say i'll do a 315 lbs bench...
warm up sets will be like this
20 reps on an empty bar
15 reps with 95 lbs
10 reps with 135 lbs
7 reps with 185 lbs
5 reps with 225 lbs
3 reps with 275 lbs
then i start my working sets to failure

and so on for each exercise... i stretch after i'm done with a muscle...


again, when you train the same way for 4 years, and you diet almost the same way... and you only see changes when you increase or decrease the gear... you know it's the gear.

also, over 10 iu of GH eod, or ed with a lot of slin for 4-6 weeks does wonders.... WONDERS!!! expensive as fuck (i only get my hands on some HG growth... never buy that chinese crap).

look... here's a pic at my heaviest... 220 lbs... i got to my heaviest because i spent 4 weeks on 2 grams of test and 100 mg dbol 5 days per week... I could've gotten stronger if i wanted, but i didn't change my weights... arms were very close to 19 inches here (usually they're between 17.75 and 18)... training low volume, but not increasing weights... if i did, i probably would've gotten injured big time. you grow from gear, not weights (well, you know what i mean  )

[bigbobs]

Looking great!  Thanks for the info!

[Schmoe Buster]

Looking great!  Thanks for the info!

X2, Buselmo is an inspiration

Buselmo when you did the 10IU GHona and the shit load of insulinona did you find the gains were maintainable after? i know you go on vacation after that but if you kept up the training and eating and stayed on lower dose Gh and anabolics do you think it could be maintained?

[buselmo]

X2, Buselmo is an inspiration

Buselmo when you did the 10IU GHona and the shit load of insulinona did you find the gains were maintainable after? i know you go on vacation after that but if you kept up the training and eating and stayed on lower dose Gh and anabolics do you think it could be maintained?

no... not maintainable without the same dose.
something about the GH + slin that gives you the same water retention as dbol... you know, the good kind of the retention, where there's not much under the skin, and it's all in the muscle... but you take the dbol effect, multiply it by 3, and you get the GH+slin effect.

after you go off of it, it starts fading... little by little... til it's gone. nothing called maintainable gains after coming off. whoever says that (you know, the whole "i only lose a lb or 2 after coming off... and i don't gain any fat") is probably the same person who has a 40" waist and goes around telling people he has a six pack cuz when he flexes his abs and pokes his finger through 8 inches of fat, he can feel something hard. 

[Stavios]

no... not maintainable without the same dose.
something about the GH + slin that gives you the same water retention as dbol... you know, the good kind of the retention, where there's not much under the skin, and it's all in the muscle... but you take the dbol effect, multiply it by 3, and you get the GH+slin effect.

after you go off of it, it starts fading... little by little... til it's gone. nothing called maintainable gains after coming off. whoever says that (you know, the whole "i only lose a lb or 2 after coming off... and i don't gain any fat") is probably the same person who has a 40" waist and goes around telling people he has a six pack cuz when he flexes his abs and pokes his finger through 8 inches of fat, he can feel something hard. 

haha 

[LATS]

BUSELMO IS THE MAN.. love teh guy.. and i love his honesty.. as for the mention that you get stronger from the gear not the weights is true.. what i mean is that you see pros using the same weights year after year but yet, the get bigger.. we also see some of them get injuried and tearing muscles when they try and force the strength when on cycle..  i injuried my elbow which has put me out for three months now because of rapid strength gains that i tooka advantage of and paid the price.. training lighter with shorter rest periods and keeping the intensity high by really tensing and slowly lowering the weights ect ect will give great gains and keep you injury free when on cycles.. as buselmo said, i have a bad neck, elbow, shoulders are shot, and knees from weights in the 5-7 range even though i trained very strict and warmed up properly.. i am over 40 years old and trust me young guns, it will catch ya.. train smarter..    

[Schmoe Buster]

no... not maintainable without the same dose.
something about the GH + slin that gives you the same water retention as dbol... you know, the good kind of the retention, where there's not much under the skin, and it's all in the muscle... but you take the dbol effect, multiply it by 3, and you get the GH+slin effect.

after you go off of it, it starts fading... little by little... til it's gone. nothing called maintainable gains after coming off. whoever says that (you know, the whole "i only lose a lb or 2 after coming off... and i don't gain any fat") is probably the same person who has a 40" waist and goes around telling people he has a six pack cuz when he flexes his abs and pokes his finger through 8 inches of fat, he can feel something hard. 

Thanks mate it was wishful thinking on my part that a mega blast of slin and GH would lead to at least some lasting gains, i know what you mean about the dbol effect!
Do guys in Saudi Arabia use slin all the way up to their contests?

[buselmo]

Thanks mate it was wishful thinking on my part that a mega blast of slin and GH would lead to at least some lasting gains, i know what you mean about the dbol effect!
Do guys in Saudi Arabia use slin all the way up to their contests?

some do, some don't... they know their bodies...
that's the great thing about being mildly retarded and not understanding a word of english... they don't go to boards and read, they don't read books... they just go with what they feel. some people go really flat on 200 grams of carbs a day... those people know that they need a lot of carbs and a lot of insulin... they use it to the day of the show... some are the opposite and they know they have to cut out slin 4-8 weeks out.

BUT... sometimes that mild retardation and ignorance gets them into trouble... a guy at the gym (big dude) was doing curls... saw him not looking alright... he kept on going til he fainted... one of the trainers ran and put some chocolate in his mouth... 1 minute later he was fine... i talked to the trainer (good friend of mine) and he said "fucking idiot... takes a whole syringe full of insulin before he trains and he doesn't eat for hours... some people just wanna die"... so, yeah... a lot of people know insulin makes you big, but they don't even know what it does.

[buselmo]

BUSELMO IS THE MAN.. love teh guy.. and i love his honesty.. as for the mention that you get stronger from the gear not the weights is true.. what i mean is that you see pros using the same weights year after year but yet, the get bigger.. we also see some of them get injuried and tearing muscles when they try and force the strength when on cycle..  i injuried my elbow which has put me out for three months now because of rapid strength gains that i tooka advantage of and paid the price.. training lighter with shorter rest periods and keeping the intensity high by really tensing and slowly lowering the weights ect ect will give great gains and keep you injury free when on cycles.. as buselmo said, i have a bad neck, elbow, shoulders are shot, and knees from weights in the 5-7 range even though i trained very strict and warmed up properly.. i am over 40 years old and trust me young guns, it will catch ya.. train smarter..    

BTW... big fan of yours and your stories  ... read all of'em

[Schmoe Buster]

some do, some don't... they know their bodies...
that's the great thing about being mildly retarded and not understanding a word of english... they don't go to boards and read, they don't read books... they just go with what they feel. some people go really flat on 200 grams of carbs a day... those people know that they need a lot of carbs and a lot of insulin... they use it to the day of the show... some are the opposite and they know they have to cut out slin 4-8 weeks out.

BUT... sometimes that mild retardation and ignorance gets them into trouble... a guy at the gym (big dude) was doing curls... saw him not looking alright... he kept on going til he fainted... one of the trainers ran and put some chocolate in his mouth... 1 minute later he was fine... i talked to the trainer (good friend of mine) and he said "fucking idiot... takes a whole syringe full of insulin before he trains and he doesn't eat for hours... some people just wanna die"... so, yeah... a lot of people know insulin makes you big, but they don't even know what it does.

Yes i agree it can be an advantage not to be able to read boards and be a bit retarded, too many guys on forums talking about PCT,Deca dick , time off vs time on, genetics etc when they should be in the gym trainingg hard and getting big.
Thanks again

[Stavios]

some do, some don't... they know their bodies...
that's the great thing about being mildly retarded and not understanding a word of english... they don't go to boards and read, they don't read books... they just go with what they feel. some people go really flat on 200 grams of carbs a day... those people know that they need a lot of carbs and a lot of insulin... they use it to the day of the show... some are the opposite and they know they have to cut out slin 4-8 weeks out.

BUT... sometimes that mild retardation and ignorance gets them into trouble... a guy at the gym (big dude) was doing curls... saw him not looking alright... he kept on going til he fainted... one of the trainers ran and put some chocolate in his mouth... 1 minute later he was fine... i talked to the trainer (good friend of mine) and he said "fucking idiot... takes a whole syringe full of insulin before he trains and he doesn't eat for hours... some people just wanna die"... so, yeah... a lot of people know insulin makes you big, but they don't even know what it does.

lmao, it does that to me with only 20iu of humalog.
if I don't eat every hour and a half after using it, for the next 4-5 hours, I get dizzy, hot and I shake from everywhere

scares the shit out of me.

appetite then gets out of fucking controle and I eat everything in sight for the next hour. and I mean EVERYTHING

[Master Blaster]

this is a good thread 

[tbombz]

nah... trust me bro, it was because i was loaded on the juice. as i said before, i spent 4 years training as heavy as possible... I usually go really high on the anabolics, GH and slin right before I go on vacation (4-6 weeks)... I usually come off of everything for 2-3 months after the vacation, so i just make sure i'm cleaning house before i leave  ... that's when i usually see the gains. training and diet don't change... strength is usually the same... but weight starts shooting up and so does size.

the reason i had all those injuries was becuase i tried forcing myself to get strong... you don't force yourself to get stronger, you naturally get stronger with more gear...

and i don't jump immediately on working sets... let's say i'll do a 315 lbs bench...
warm up sets will be like this
20 reps on an empty bar
15 reps with 95 lbs
10 reps with 135 lbs
7 reps with 185 lbs
5 reps with 225 lbs
3 reps with 275 lbs
then i start my working sets to failure

and so on for each exercise... i stretch after i'm done with a muscle...


again, when you train the same way for 4 years, and you diet almost the same way... and you only see changes when you increase or decrease the gear... you know it's the gear.

also, over 10 iu of GH eod, or ed with a lot of slin for 4-6 weeks does wonders.... WONDERS!!! expensive as fuck (i only get my hands on some HG growth... never buy that chinese crap).

look... here's a pic at my heaviest... 220 lbs... i got to my heaviest because i spent 4 weeks on 2 grams of test and 100 mg dbol 5 days per week... I could've gotten stronger if i wanted, but i didn't change my weights... arms were very close to 19 inches here (usually they're between 17.75 and 18)... training low volume, but not increasing weights... if i did, i probably would've gotten injured big time. you grow from gear, not weights (well, you know what i mean  )

you can grow by increasing gear, but like you said, its completely dependant on the gear and its completely unmaintanable without the gear.. and all that gear only takes you so far.. you want to get bigger on the same doseage? you need to get stronger. you want to keep muscle when you come off? you gotta keep the weights as heavy as possible. you wont get injured by training heavy and getting stronger, if you do you either dont warm up properly, dont use proper form, or you completely mind fucked yourself into thought-creation (negative thoughts are self fulfilling prophecies)

[buselmo]

lmao, it does that to me with only 20iu of humalog.
if I don't eat every hour and a half after using it, for the next 4-5 hours, I get dizzy, hot and I shake from everywhere

scares the shit out of me.

appetite then gets out of fucking controle and I eat everything in sight for the next hour. and I mean EVERYTHING

have you tried R?
for example, faisal needs a lot of carbs even without slin... he tells me that his blood sugar hits 70 if he stays 6 hours without food even without slin and he gets really dizzy... very sensitive to insulin... he uses humalog and it works great with him... I , on the other hand, am very desentisized to slin... it's really a miracle how i don't have type 2 diabetes, yet my body acts like it does (don't have diabetes at all in the family)... I don't eat carbs for days on end and my blood sugar doesn't go below 90... I can take 10 iu humalin R and not get hypo while eating 10-20 grams of carbs... i once took 15 iu humalin R with 4 iu gh and spent the whole time without eating shit... never went hypo... used humalog... that crap didn't do shit... no fullness, very random hypo... bloated feeling... just felt like crap... so everyone is different... I do very well with R, i am not a carb crazy guy... and i believe you had great results on keto... so that tells me something... why don't you give R a shot?
and a word of advice... DON'T EAT A LOT!!!! going hypo and coming out of it is a lot like getting drunk... saudis are the worst drinkers because they're like bodybuilders going hypo...
... double shot of whiskey... not drunk... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey... not drunk... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey... feeling a bit buzzed... not drunk yet... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey... light headed... not reeeeaaalllyyy drunk... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey...sisht, em getn dbunk... i want this feeling to last... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey...
so within 5 minutes, they drink 6 double shots of whiskey, and then drink beers after that cuz they want to get drunk quick... not knowing it takes a lot of time to process 1 drink in the body... then they start telling people they love them, then they think they're invinsible and want to beat up everyone... then they cry, vomit, pass out...

same thing with us bodybuilder... feeling a little hypo? a little hungry? eat 200 grams of carbs... 5 minutes later... still hypo? eat another 100 grams... WTF? I swear when i start going hypo, i just drink a glass of tea with 2 packs of sugar and a date... it's gone (this is without GH... with GH i don't need any carbs) but it takes 5-10 minutes to subside. it's not an immediate effect.

don't "pound" the carbs...  

[tbombz]

have you tried R?
for example, faisal needs a lot of carbs even without slin... he tells me that his blood sugar hits 70 if he stays 6 hours without food even without slin and he gets really dizzy... very sensitive to insulin... he uses humalog and it works great with him... I , on the other hand, am very desentisized to slin... it's really a miracle how i don't have type 2 diabetes, yet my body acts like it does (don't have diabetes at all in the family)... I don't eat carbs for days on end and my blood sugar doesn't go below 90... I can take 10 iu humalin R and not get hypo while eating 10-20 grams of carbs... i once took 15 iu humalin R with 4 iu gh and spent the whole time without eating shit... never went hypo... used humalog... that crap didn't do shit... no fullness, very random hypo... bloated feeling... just felt like crap... so everyone is different... I do very well with R, i am not a carb crazy guy... and i believe you had great results on keto... so that tells me something... why don't you give R a shot?
and a word of advice... DON'T EAT A LOT!!!! going hypo and coming out of it is a lot like getting drunk... saudis are the worst drinkers because they're like bodybuilders going hypo...
... double shot of whiskey... not drunk... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey... not drunk... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey... feeling a bit buzzed... not drunk yet... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey... light headed... not reeeeaaalllyyy drunk... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey...sisht, em getn dbunk... i want this feeling to last... 1 minute later... double shot of whiskey...
so within 5 minutes, they drink 6 double shots of whiskey, and then drink beers after that cuz they want to get drunk quick... not knowing it takes a lot of time to process 1 drink in the body... then they start telling people they love them, then they think they're invinsible and want to beat up everyone... then they cry, vomit, pass out...

same thing with us bodybuilder... feeling a little hypo? a little hungry? eat 200 grams of carbs... 5 minutes later... still hypo? eat another 100 grams... WTF? I swear when i start going hypo, i just drink a glass of tea with 2 packs of sugar and a date... it's gone (this is without GH... with GH i don't need any carbs) but it takes 5-10 minutes to subside. it's not an immediate effect.

don't "pound" the carbs...  

thats good advice on carb intake, it makes sense to slowly sip on carbs throughout the active life of the slin, if your using log or R.

you should try out lantus, especially if your using GH. its better than short and medium insulin(both of which i found to be completely useless)

[almard]

buselmo....Nice post bro.....

what the diffrent you notice from using test with dbol only vs mix anabolics?

[buselmo]

buselmo....Nice post bro.....

what the diffrent you notice from using test with dbol only vs mix anabolics?

I'll answer that next year when i use a mix of anabolics that total 2500 mg

but whenever i use tren, masteron, EQ, dbol, anadrol... i get MUCH better results... even if just a little... in a couple of weeks i'll be on some tren E, masteron, test, and dbol... (just got some stuff for free  )... i'll bump this thread with pics of the results before i use the stuff and after.

[Fatpanda]

lmao, it does that to me with only 20iu of humalog.
if I don't eat every hour and a half after using it, for the next 4-5 hours, I get dizzy, hot and I shake from everywhere

scares the shit out of me.

appetite then gets out of fucking controle and I eat everything in sight for the next hour. and I mean EVERYTHING

risking your life for a few extra pounds.

you need to re-evaluate your priorities in life stavios.