3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results

[Krankenstein]

risking your life for a few extra pounds.

you need to re-evaluate your priorities in life stavios.

Just like you risking your life to become a fat POS by stuffing your face meal after meal?   

[Schmoe Buster]

Just like you risking your life to become a fat POS by stuffing your face meal after meal?   

X2

[buselmo]

ok for example bulsemo, here is my current diet (not a lot of food but I eat whatever I want 1 day a week for 3-4 meals)

where would you insert the slin if you were to take some ?


7h30 am: 16 egg whites

10h30 am: 60gr proteins

1h00 pm: 300 gr lean ground beef

5h00pm: 4 slices of ezekiel bread with 200gr lean ground beef
(training)

Post-workout: 60 grams protein with a carbo (100gr carbs)

11h pm : 2 cans of tuna

if the diet is working for you, you're losing fat, not losing muscle... then don't listen to anyone and stay on that...
are you using GH on not?
if not, don't use the slin with that little carbs UNLESS you want to fill out a bit (not grow)... but that can be done in the couple of days before a contest (do test runs... i'll tell you how i do it later, and you can see if it makes sense or not)....
let me be honest again... slin at less than 30 iu ed, or eod will add nothing to mass... just fullness.... 10 iu pre workout with the carbs you eat is fine... just keep a sugary drink with you (redbull is fine... don't be fooled about it's simple sugar and refined or whatever... you're in a workout, you'll burn it up quick) and just subtract whatever you drink during your workout from the total grams of carbs in your post workout drink.

whoever tells you 10 iu pre workout is dangerous really doesn't know what he's talking about... unless you are starving, go workout, take your slin 1 hour before... workout for 2 hours, then take a 1 hour drive home without eating anything... ok, then it's dangerous...

take the slin IM... don't know why, don't know how... but it's much more effective that way.


if you want it for some mass gains during those couple of weeks... i'd suggest keeping the calories the same, or a bit more, and just take down the protein, bring up the carbs, and up the slin to 30 iu (2x15 iu injects)....

a great way to do it is really high carbs on mon, wed, fri, very low carb on tue, thur, sat... and then have sun as your cheat day. on the high carb days, use 30-45 iu slin.

[Schmoe Buster]

if the diet is working for you, you're losing fat, not losing muscle... then don't listen to anyone and stay on that...
are you using GH on not?
if not, don't use the slin with that little carbs UNLESS you want to fill out a bit (not grow)... but that can be done in the couple of days before a contest (do test runs... i'll tell you how i do it later, and you can see if it makes sense or not)....
let me be honest again... slin at less than 30 iu ed, or eod will add nothing to mass... just fullness.... 10 iu pre workout with the carbs you eat is fine... just keep a sugary drink with you (redbull is fine... don't be fooled about it's simple sugar and refined or whatever... you're in a workout, you'll burn it up quick) and just subtract whatever you drink during your workout from the total grams of carbs in your post workout drink.

whoever tells you 10 iu pre workout is dangerous really doesn't know what he's talking about... unless you are starving, go workout, take your slin 1 hour before... workout for 2 hours, then take a 1 hour drive home without eating anything... ok, then it's dangerous...

take the slin IM... don't know why, don't know how... but it's much more effective that way.


if you want it for some mass gains during those couple of weeks... i'd suggest keeping the calories the same, or a bit more, and just take down the protein, bring up the carbs, and up the slin to 30 iu (2x15 iu injects)....

a great way to do it is really high carbs on mon, wed, fri, very low carb on tue, thur, sat... and then have sun as your cheat day. on the high carb days, use 30-45 iu slin.

Great info, i think for myself using pre contest would be very good

[Stavios]

if the diet is working for you, you're losing fat, not losing muscle... then don't listen to anyone and stay on that...
are you using GH on not?
if not, don't use the slin with that little carbs UNLESS you want to fill out a bit (not grow)... but that can be done in the couple of days before a contest (do test runs... i'll tell you how i do it later, and you can see if it makes sense or not)....
let me be honest again... slin at less than 30 iu ed, or eod will add nothing to mass... just fullness.... 10 iu pre workout with the carbs you eat is fine... just keep a sugary drink with you (redbull is fine... don't be fooled about it's simple sugar and refined or whatever... you're in a workout, you'll burn it up quick) and just subtract whatever you drink during your workout from the total grams of carbs in your post workout drink.

whoever tells you 10 iu pre workout is dangerous really doesn't know what he's talking about... unless you are starving, go workout, take your slin 1 hour before... workout for 2 hours, then take a 1 hour drive home without eating anything... ok, then it's dangerous...

take the slin IM... don't know why, don't know how... but it's much more effective that way.


if you want it for some mass gains during those couple of weeks... i'd suggest keeping the calories the same, or a bit more, and just take down the protein, bring up the carbs, and up the slin to 30 iu (2x15 iu injects)....

a great way to do it is really high carbs on mon, wed, fri, very low carb on tue, thur, sat... and then have sun as your cheat day. on the high carb days, use 30-45 iu slin.

good plan !

If I use it it will be only for fullness, maybe some masse gain but I need to know how I look at 198 first.
if I get to 198 and still have fat in my back (wich I suspect) and my skin isn't thin enough, I'll continu to drop even if it is to be 190.

now, if I get to 190, I might use slin at high dose for 3-4 weeks to get to a good lucking 198.

that way I'll enter the light-heavy without cutting water drastically or "carbing up" and I'll be as full and ripped as I can be

[flexingtonsteele]

good plan !

If I use it it will be only for fullness, maybe some masse gain but I need to know how I look at 198 first.
if I get to 198 and still have fat in my back (wich I suspect) and my skin isn't thin enough, I'll continu to drop even if it is to be 190.

now, if I get to 190, I might use slin at high dose for 3-4 weeks to get to a good lucking 198.

that way I'll enter the light-heavy without cutting water drastically or "carbing up" and I'll be as full and ripped as I can be

why so worried about getting to 198 stavy???

just diet to you are fucking shredded to the bone regardless of weight.

what if you are shredded @ 201, but u have 198 in mind so u keep dieting?

[Stavios]

why so worried about getting to 198 stavy???

just diet to you are fucking shredded to the bone regardless of weight.

what if you are shredded @ 201, but u have 198 in mind so u keep dieting?

I won't be shredded at 201 that's is 100% sure
I want to be J-Rod shredded you know what I ean ? I have been pretty lean before but from the front only. everytime I did a show, I was suprised at how thick the skin on my back looks and glutes and hams can be tighter too so I figure I needed to lose a good 7-8 pounds at my last show.

BUT, I can afford to look flat with my lanky arms, my arms only look good when I use slin because they seem to match the rest of my physique when loaded with glycogen.
right now, in the morning I am 215 after a few days of low carbs, after my cheat day I am 224-225 in the morning.
so  I need to get down to about 195 or below, then load, then keep everything stable for the rest of the prep so I'll be full at 197-198 and won't have to do any carb loading or carb depletion for the show.

that is why I want to be contest ready in mai or early june (show is july 2)

[Meso_z]

I won't be shredded at 201 that's is 100% sure
I want to be J-Rod shredded you know what I ean ? I have been pretty lean before but from the front only. everytime I did a show, I was suprised at how thick the skin on my back looks and glutes and hams can be tighter too so I figure I needed to lose a good 7-8 pounds at my last show.

BUT, I can afford to look flat with my lanky arms, my arms only look good when I use slin because they seem to match the rest of my physique when loaded with glycogen.
right now, in the morning I am 215 after a few days of low carbs, after my cheat day I am 224-225 in the morning.
so  I need to get down to about 195 or below, then load, then keep everything stable for the rest of the prep so I'll be full at 197-198 and won't have to do any carb loading or carb depletion for the show.

that is why I want to be contest ready in mai or early june (show is july 2)

I think you should ask Jrod about his "creatine" and "glutamine" cycles... 

[Stavios]

I think you should ask Jrod about his "creatine" and "glutamine" cycles... 

haha yeah I should bro , i'll share the secret of the glutamine + creatine combo loading with you guys once J-rod tells me how those crazy chemicals work

[Meso_z]

haha yeah I should bro , i'll share the secret of the glutamine + creatine combo loading with you guys once J-rod tells me how those crazy chemicals work

[big ban]

Impressive my friend!!

One of the few ppl who tell the plain truth about what they do!!!

Still don't get why idiots fuck around when someone ask about their training/diet/gear!!

Thumbs up my broda 

[alnassak]

well... just wanted to share my results... i'm copying and pasting this from another board i put this on

well... i'm not done yet... it's been 12 weeks now and i think it's about time i tell you about what i've found out. the first 3 weeks, i was eating something like this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml), 10 tbsp oats, some honey

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)... when i'm done with this, i'd eat some pasta or rice til i'm full.

after those 3 weeks, i took a week off cuz it was the eid holidays... no training and eating a lot of junk... then week 5 i started this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml)

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)

same thing but without the carbs in breakfast or dinner.... a couple of days later i got sick of chicken and it started hurting my teeth, so i changed the last meal to 250 grams of lean beef made into kababs with 400 ml laban.

the way i calculated it... it's around 1700 calories and 180 grams of protein or so....
from week 5-8, i would cheat monday night with something like KFC and some cake or some pizza from dominos... and wednesday night, i'd start eating whatever i want in reasonable quantities til friday night. after week 8, i just cancelled the cheat meal on monday.

training was 20 sets per muscle, 50-60 seconds rest between sets, hit every muscle twice a week except for legs (cuz i'm lazy and i hate training them)... I started cardio at 20 minutes after my workout on week 5 or so, and 3 weeks ago i took it up to 40 minutes (15% incline, 3.2 mph)...

drugs... well... keep in mind i'm usually at 1500 mg... but this time, i took it down a notch...
weeks 1-3 dbol 70 mg 5 days per week
week 1-now 750 mg test
week 5- 2days ago 75 mg tren a (sat, mon, and wed only)... i usually miss an injection or two every week... very inconsistent.
today i started winny at 50 mg planning on 5 days on 2 off for 4 weeks

fat burners = a lot

training usually lasts 100-120 minutes from sat til wed and i take thu and fri off.... well... here are the pics

left-->start = 84.5 kg, 36 inch waist
center --> 5 weeks later at 90.5 kg, 34.5 inch waist
right--> 91 kg, 32 inch waist

Great Progress man,  I would like to see how your progress will go if you follow the same plan just quit the AAS usage.

[buselmo]

Great Progress man,  I would like to see how your progress will go if you follow the same plan just quit the AAS usage.

I kinda did something similar when i was natural back in 2005 (after about 3.5 years of training) and was on very low cals (if i remember correctly, it was around 1500 cals... but i was taking in around 200 grams of protein)... training high volume, and i was at my limit weighing 75 kg after water depletion... did around 2 hours of cardio too... started at a very fat 90 kg (38 inch waist) and it took me around 8 months to get down to 75 kg.

being natural... i just look skinny with shoulder width close to waist size

[Meso_z]

buselmo, I was curious about this

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

Why do you stay without food for 6 hours before training?

[buselmo]

buselmo, I was curious about this

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

Why do you stay without food for 6 hours before training?

cuz:
1- i don't get hungry too often
2- it's not very convenient for me to cook up a lot of food and take it to work
3- i don't do well training on a full stomach

[dj181]

Hey bus, I have some questions regarding your natural training. Firstly, how big was your waist at 75kg? Secondly, was the 2 hours of cardio split up, or all at once? Also, how hard were those cardio sessions? Lastly, how were your strength gains at that time going from 90kg to 75kg? Did your strength go up or down, or did it stay roughly the same? And  thanks for being honest ma man

[Meso_z]

Its great to see someone busting those myths.

[buselmo]

Hey bus, I have some questions regarding your natural training. Firstly, how big was your waist at 75kg? Secondly, was the 2 hours of cardio split up, or all at once? Also, how hard were those cardio sessions? Lastly, how were your strength gains at that time going from 90kg to 75kg? Did your strength go up or down, or did it stay roughly the same? And  thanks for being honest ma man

i think my waist was around 31 inches or so...
the cardio was split up 1 hour morning (5 minute walk, 2 minute jog), and 1 hour after training in the evening (around 3-3.5 mph with an incline).

i lost a lot of strength losing that weight... at 90 kg i would do 275 lbs on bench... at 75 kg, i was down to 225 lbs for less reps.

but i have to be honest, i wasn't TOTALY natural... when i was 85 kg, i started 20 mg M1T for 4 weeks that took me up to 90 kg... held my weight there for a couple of weeks then dieted for 7 months and got down to 76 kg... i had 4 weeks left to the contest and decided to try superdrol for a hardening effect... took it for one week and my weight shot up to 78 kg so i stopped immediately cuz i was afraid i wouldn't make the weight class.

so, yeah... i'd say 95% natural

[flexingtonsteele]

i think my waist was around 31 inches or so...
the cardio was split up 1 hour morning (5 minute walk, 2 minute jog), and 1 hour after training in the evening (around 3-3.5 mph with an incline).

i lost a lot of strength losing that weight... at 90 kg i would do 275 lbs on bench... at 75 kg, i was down to 225 lbs for less reps.

but i have to be honest, i wasn't TOTALY natural... when i was 85 kg, i started 20 mg M1T for 4 weeks that took me up to 90 kg... held my weight there for a couple of weeks then dieted for 7 months and got down to 76 kg... i had 4 weeks left to the contest and decided to try superdrol for a hardening effect... took it for one week and my weight shot up to 78 kg so i stopped immediately cuz i was afraid i wouldn't make the weight class.

so, yeah... i'd say 95% natural

thats a helluva lot more natural the most "naturals" who compete nowadays.

[Heavy_Hitter]

bulsemo how was your strength during the diet/transformation?

 Why don't you go hang out on a natty board! What kind of statement is that? Why did you lose respect? Believe it or not Buselmo has great genetics, give that same routine and diet and the drugs to many people they will look like the "Save The Hungry Children" commercial you see late at night!

[Meso_z]

i think my waist was around 31 inches or so...
the cardio was split up 1 hour morning (5 minute walk, 2 minute jog), and 1 hour after training in the evening (around 3-3.5 mph with an incline).

i lost a lot of strength losing that weight... at 90 kg i would do 275 lbs on bench... at 75 kg, i was down to 225 lbs for less reps.

but i have to be honest, i wasn't TOTALY natural... when i was 85 kg, i started 20 mg M1T for 4 weeks that took me up to 90 kg... held my weight there for a couple of weeks then dieted for 7 months and got down to 76 kg... i had 4 weeks left to the contest and decided to try superdrol for a hardening effect... took it for one week and my weight shot up to 78 kg so i stopped immediately cuz i was afraid i wouldn't make the weight class.

so, yeah... i'd say 95% natural

What brand of sdrol would you reccommend buselmo? is it worth it as a compound?

[buselmo]

What brand of sdrol would you reccommend buselmo? is it worth it as a compound?

If i remember correctly, it was anabolic Xtreme. i don't know about the shit available today. last time i used prosteroids was back in 2006.
but one thing is for sure... i got the best results ever from M1T... that shit aint a pro steroid... it's the strongest anabolic known to fucking man!

superdrol was good. mg for mg, stronger than dbol... definately more toxic... not much water retention.
M1T... man, i remember after squatting, i'd have to lay down on the ground for around 10 minutes to let the back pumps subside. i couldn't even drive back home until they subsided. only shit ever to make my piss turn brown.

[Meso_z]

well... just wanted to share my results... i'm copying and pasting this from another board i put this on

well... i'm not done yet... it's been 12 weeks now and i think it's about time i tell you about what i've found out. the first 3 weeks, i was eating something like this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml), 10 tbsp oats, some honey

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)... when i'm done with this, i'd eat some pasta or rice til i'm full.

after those 3 weeks, i took a week off cuz it was the eid holidays... no training and eating a lot of junk... then week 5 i started this
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml)

10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)

train at 4:30 pm

6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)

same thing but without the carbs in breakfast or dinner.... a couple of days later i got sick of chicken and it started hurting my teeth, so i changed the last meal to 250 grams of lean beef made into kababs with 400 ml laban.

the way i calculated it... it's around 1700 calories and 180 grams of protein or so....
from week 5-8, i would cheat monday night with something like KFC and some cake or some pizza from dominos... and wednesday night, i'd start eating whatever i want in reasonable quantities til friday night. after week 8, i just cancelled the cheat meal on monday.

training was 20 sets per muscle, 50-60 seconds rest between sets, hit every muscle twice a week except for legs (cuz i'm lazy and i hate training them)... I started cardio at 20 minutes after my workout on week 5 or so, and 3 weeks ago i took it up to 40 minutes (15% incline, 3.2 mph)...

drugs... well... keep in mind i'm usually at 1500 mg... but this time, i took it down a notch...
weeks 1-3 dbol 70 mg 5 days per week
week 1-now 750 mg test
week 5- 2days ago 75 mg tren a (sat, mon, and wed only)... i usually miss an injection or two every week... very inconsistent.
today i started winny at 50 mg planning on 5 days on 2 off for 4 weeks

fat burners = a lot

training usually lasts 100-120 minutes from sat til wed and i take thu and fri off.... well... here are the pics

left-->start = 84.5 kg, 36 inch waist
center --> 5 weeks later at 90.5 kg, 34.5 inch waist
right--> 91 kg, 32 inch waist

buselmo basically you dieted for 4 days a week? sat-sun-mon-tue-wed(till night)? wed night through friday night you ate whatever you wanted? What kind of diet is that. 

[ManBearPig...]

i like how buselmo is destroying many "natural athletes" dreams on here with his cumshots of truth.


keep it up man.

[Meso_z]

i like how buselmo is destroying many "natural athletes" dreams on here with his cumshots of truth.


keep it up man.

hes the man, thanks to him i reduced my meals from 6 to 5. Nothing changed - in fact, I feel more energetic, more "free", without having to worry about "my # meal". I want to slowly drop them to 4 a day.   one meal less baby.!