Author Topic: Better bodybuilder and Better physique, Shawn Ray or Nasser? (Read 19821 times)

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:26:33 AM »

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #27 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:38:44 AM »

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:39:20 AM »

dr.chimps · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:44:18 AM »

What a surprise. Another photo barrage by Salami.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #30 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:50:55 AM »

Quote from: yates fan on January 24, 2011, 06:58:28 AM

i like nasser better,but shawn was proably the better bodybuilder,he had a better back,which means a lot in the pros,and i think a better won-loss record

the win/lose record is not the main thing because for example nasser and kevin both beat ronnie coleman more time than he beat them but still he is 8X mr. olympia!!..

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #31 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:52:47 AM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on January 24, 2011, 10:44:18 AM

What a surprise. Another photo barrage by Salami.

yes i wanted to present something new and unexpected in this thread

tendonitis · « **Reply #32 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:53:42 AM »

Shawn by a wide margin.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #33 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:59:09 AM »

nasser's quads, hams, and, calves were all better than shawn's.. each of them separately was better than shawns and together they made his lower body superior to shawn's from all angles.. from the front or the size or the rear!!..

as for the upper body shawn was superior only in the back department and was clearly better in the RDB pose.. also the RLS pose although it was not by far!!..

Jaime · « **Reply #34 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:19:20 AM »

Shawn just has better lines and flow, nothing more complicated than that.

Nasser had zero balance and was full of oil.

JasonH · « **Reply #35 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:28:58 AM »

WTF?

Why are some people choosing one as the "better bodybuilder" and the other as a "better physique"?

It's the same damn thing!

Jaime · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:32:02 AM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:28:58 AM

WTF?

Why are some people choosing one as the "better bodybuilder" and the other as a "better physique"?

It's the same damn thing!

No it isn't.

JasonH · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:35:19 AM »

Quote from: Jaime on January 24, 2011, 11:32:02 AM

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

che · « **Reply #38 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:35:31 AM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:28:58 AM

WTF?

Why are some people choosing one as the "better bodybuilder" and the other as a "better physique"?

It's the same damn thing!

Nope

Cutler = better bodybuilder
Rockel= better physique

Chick = better bodybuilder
Rusty= better physique

Layne Norton= better bodybuilder
Che= better physique

get it

Jaime · « **Reply #39 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:39:35 AM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:35:19 AM

Yes it is.

Yeah ok, Jay Cutler has the best physique in the world.

JasonH · « **Reply #40 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:40:43 AM »

Quote from: che on January 24, 2011, 11:35:31 AM

Nope

Cutler = better bodybuilder
Rockel= better physique

Chick = better bodybuilder
Rusty= better physique

Layne Norton= better bodybuilder
Che= better physique

get it

How can you say that Rockel has a better physique than Cutler when Cutler is Mr Olympia, judged to have the best, most complete, developed physique on the planet in each given year they compete agasint each other? Whoever is the better bodybuilder, automatically has the best physique by default - it's that simple.

Jaime · « **Reply #41 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:42:44 AM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:40:43 AM

How can you say that Rockel has a better physique than Cutler when Cutler is Mr Olympia, judged to have the best, most complete, developed physique on the planet in each given year they compete agasint each other? Whoever is the better bodybuilder, automatically has the best physique by default - it's that simple.

Because the criteria to win a bodybuilding show has zero application anywhere else in life.

Hence why bodybuilding is a niche, underground, schmoe infested sport.

che · « **Reply #42 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:43:07 AM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:40:43 AM

How can you say that Rockel has a better physique than Cutler when Cutler is Mr Olympia, judged to have the best, most complete, developed physique on the planet in each given year they compete agasint each other? Whoever is the better bodybuilder, automatically has the best physique by default - it's that simple.

Oh brother

Parker · « **Reply #43 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:50:16 AM »

Regardless of height, most people would rather walk around looking like Shawn than Nasser...Shawn could move around, and not wheeze while going up steps or jogging. Shawn had a more "real world" phyisque.
Hence, better physique. And he has probably the best set of abs-intercostal-serratus in the business. Couple that with the fact that he was a ladies man. You have Shawn by a mile.

JasonH · « **Reply #44 on:** January 24, 2011, 11:56:32 AM »

Quote from: che on January 24, 2011, 11:43:07 AM

Oh brother

Look, let's try to make it simple for your tiny mind to comprehend.

Shawn Ray was a better bodybuilder than Nasser because he had the better physique. Therefore, he was the better bodybuilder.
Jay Cutler is a better bodybuilder than Ronny Rockel because he has a better physique. Therefore, he is a better bodybuilder.

Because he has a better physique, he is a better bodybuilder. Because he has a better physique....etc...etc...

Shockwave · « **Reply #45 on:** January 24, 2011, 12:01:05 PM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:56:32 AM

Look, let's try to make it simple for your tiny mind to comprehend.

Shawn Ray was a better bodybuilder than Nasser because he had the better physique. Therefore, he was the better bodybuilder.
Jay Cutler is a better bodybuilder than Ronny Rockel because he has a better physique. Therefore, he is a better bodybuilder.

Because he has a better physique, he is a better bodybuilder. Because he has a better physique....etc...etc...

Youre going with the fact that because someone has the best physique means their crowned Mr Olympia, but thats only the best physique as far as COMPETITIVE BB is concerned.
Theyre talking about physiques APART from competitive BB. As in, which man has the better physique if judged NOT BY COMPETITIVE BB STANDARDS.
Lets see if YOUR tiny brain can figure that one out.

Just because someone says the word PHYSIQUE does not mean theyre talking about it in competitive BB terms.

wes · « **Reply #46 on:** January 24, 2011, 12:07:02 PM »

Shawn blows Nasser out of the water in most of the pics Sherief (Omar) posted.

JasonH · « **Reply #47 on:** January 24, 2011, 12:08:04 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on January 24, 2011, 12:01:05 PM

Youre going with the fact that because someone has the best physique means their crowned Mr Olympia, but thats only the best physique as far as COMPETITIVE BB is concerned.
Theyre talking about physiques APART from competitive BB. As in, which man has the better physique if judged NOT BY COMPETITIVE BB STANDARDS.
Lets see if YOUR tiny brain can figure that one out.

Just because someone says the word PHYSIQUE does not mean theyre talking about it in competitive BB terms.

I was assuming they were - after all, all the bodybuilders previously mentioned in this thread are competitive bodybuilders who are judged according to bodybuilding standards, and therefore are subject to the rules where the best physique is also the best bodybuilder.

I'd be the first to admit that someone like Ronny Rockel has a more pleasing physique to the eye than Jay Cutler, but that's a whole different argument.

This thread has been about competitive bodybuilders only - Nasser v Shawn and later Jay v Rockel. Nowhere in the thread has it been discussed if a non competing bodybulder has got a better physique than an established pro.

Parker · « **Reply #48 on:** January 24, 2011, 12:09:35 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on January 24, 2011, 12:01:05 PM

Youre going with the fact that because someone has the best physique means their crowned Mr Olympia, but thats only the best physique as far as COMPETITIVE BB is concerned.
Theyre talking about physiques APART from competitive BB. As in, which man has the better physique if judged NOT BY COMPETITIVE BB STANDARDS.
Lets see if YOUR tiny brain can figure that one out.

Just because someone says the word PHYSIQUE does not mean theyre talking about it in competitive BB terms.

This

che · « **Reply #49 on:** January 24, 2011, 12:17:24 PM »

Quote from: JasonH on January 24, 2011, 11:56:32 AM

Look, let's try to make it simple for your tiny mind to comprehend.

Shawn Ray was a better bodybuilder than Nasser because he had the better physique. Therefore, he was the better bodybuilder.
Jay Cutler is a better bodybuilder than Ronny Rockel because he has a better physique. Therefore, he is a better bodybuilder.

Because he has a better physique, he is a better bodybuilder. Because he has a better physique....etc...etc...

You are a retard .

I hope this helps

Better physiques

Better bodybuilders