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"Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« on: January 25, 2011, 09:28:06 AM »
Diet and Exercise advise from a morbidly obese drug addict

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201101240034

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 09:44:12 AM »
Diet and Exercise advise from a morbidly obese drug addict

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201101240034

"Media Matters" hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha!

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 09:47:41 AM »
"Media Matters" hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha!

translation = you didn't actually listen to the words that Rush spoke

Coach - why don't you listen to what Rush said about diet and exercise and tell us if you agree

even better, go find the transcript of what he said and post it here


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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 09:49:35 AM »
I like Rush, but he really needs to keep his mouth shut on any kind of diet or fitness advice. 

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 10:32:14 AM »
bump for Coach

have you listened to Rush's comments yet

I'm sure you can find them without going to Media Matters for the clip so you have no excuse not to listen

what do you think about Rush's view on exercise and food Nazi's?


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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 10:40:05 AM »

here's a link to the transcript


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012411/content/01125111.guest.html

here's the first two paragraphs


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I love when commonsense news that I always espouse hits the media.  You people who have listened to me regularly for 23 years know this.  All this gobbledygook about nutrition and exercise, I've always pooh-poohed it, and I've always laughed at it and the Center for Science in the Public Interest and all this healthy Nazi eating lifestyle, all that rotgut.  Over the course of the years, the SUV is gonna kill us, that kind of stuff, it just offends my sensibilities, it's an insult to my intelligence, and it's always amused me.  It doesn't surprise me because I know a lot of people are sheep, but it's always amused me.  Somewhere, somebody in the media will say, "If you have five oranges a week and three carrots and two peas and so forth you will not get cancer as readily as if somebody who doesn't."  There's always this stuff. It's either oat bran this, or oat bran, no, no, no, or coffee caffeinated, decaffeinated, you gotta be careful, you can't eat that, you can't drink that, you better make sure you have lots of that but don't have any of this.  People treat this stuff as gospel and before it's over they're swallowing five bottles of vitamins every day, and they're taking laxatives three times day, and they're doing all this because they've heard it in the media from some so-called scientific authority. 

And once again we turn to the UK, this time the Daily Mail: "This Cynical Five-a-Day Myth: Nutrition Expert Claims We've All Been Duped."  Here's the summary of the story.  A study of over 300,000 people indicates that eating fruit and vegetables will not keep us alive for much longer than we would have lived if we had eaten what we wanted.  All these years we've been slogging through eating massive amounts of vegetables, trying to smile though our taste buds were breaking, wasted time, wasted effort, bamboozled.  This story points out that we need fat, we need animal food in order to stay healthy, and that's how we get the vitamins and minerals that we need.



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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 10:44:48 AM »
Rush is trying to 1) justify his own obesity and unhealthy habits, and/or

2) rile feathers cause he hasn't been mentioned by the media in a wek and his paycheck is dependent upon people making a big deal about dumb shit he says.

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 10:49:29 AM »
An admitted drug addict is going to give others advice on eating and nutrition?  Maybe he should become a bbing guru as he'd fit right in.

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 11:04:36 AM »
here's more of the transcript (still not everything)


You gotta love a fat guy trying to justify not eating better or exercising

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"With great fanfare, it was reported last week that the current health advice about eating five portions of fruit and vegetables a day is outdated, and that scientists now believe that eight portions is more beneficial." And with no more than that, people will believe it because it shows up in the media.  And scientists wouldn't lie about this, why would they anyway?  Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian, look what happened to him?  He died.  Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian exercise freak and look what happened to him.  He passed away.  It's amazing, isn't it?  "While many people grumbled about how on earth they would manage those extra portions, I allowed myself a wry smile."  This is Zoe Harcombe writing.  "For more than two years I’ve known that the 'five-a-day' mantra we’re all so familiar with is nothing but a fairytale. Of course, they are tasty, colorful additions to any meal. But in terms of health and nutrition, fruit and veg have little to offer, and telling us to eat eight portions a day is compounding one of the worst health fallacies in recent history.

"Surprised? Many people will be, and no doubt some dieticians and nutritionists will reject my arguments. But science backs me up. The latest findings come from a European study into diet and health looking at 300,000 people in eight countries. It found that people who ate eight or more portions of fresh food a day had a 22 per cent lower chance of dying from heart disease. Yet just 1,636 participants died during the study from heart disease, which is about half of one per cent. Out of that very small proportion, fewer people died from the group that ate more fruit and veg. However, the researchers cautioned that these people may have healthier lifestyles generally. They may be less likely to smoke; they may eat less processed food; they may be more active. What we should not do is to make the usual bad science leap from association to causation and say 'eating more fruit and veg lowers the risk of dying from heart disease.'"  If you want to believe it nothing's gonna talk you out of it.  And that's fine, if you want to believe it, go right ahead.  Just remember Jack LaLanne.  But feel free, just keep it to yourself.  

"This survey comes not long after another large study, which examined half a million people over eight years, reported that fruit and veg offer no protection against breast, prostate, bowel, lung or any other kind of tumor. Those eating the most fruit and veg showed no difference in cancer risk compared with those eating the least.  So how have we been duped for so long?  You might assume our five-a-day fixation is based on firm evidence. But you’d be wrong. It started as a marketing campaign dreamt up by around 20 fruit and veg companies and the U.S. National Cancer Institute at a meeting in California in 1991. And it’s been remarkably successful." My point with all this is, just live.  You don't need some government agency, some president, some first lady or some other authority figure from the government telling you what's good and what's bad 'cause it's all bad, it's all good.  Live!  Eating, whatever you do, it has consequences.  And no matter what you do, Jack LaLanne is a testament, you are going to die.  Everybody does.  

People have been turned into neurotics over all this kind of stuff.  I just hate, it scares me the ability that these nameless, faceless, authoritative, credible sounding organizations combined with a media report have the ability to essentially affect the behavior of massive, millions and millions of numbers of people, which of course does not help us in our quest against the whole notion of big government, nanny government and all of that.  I don't know how to put a number to this.  When Algore's movie came out, Earth in the Lurch, whatever it was called, Earth in the Balance, the movie, Inconvenient Truth, the number of people who bought that was striking.  I mean people I know.  People who think like I do, they bought it.  "Well, he was a former vice president, why would he lie about this?  He only wants to help people and save the planet."  No concept that there might be a political ideology behind this.  No concept there could be a political ideology behind all this fruit and vegetable stuff.  If not a political ideology, exclusively, maybe there is a propaganda campaign involving people who sell these things.  Who knows?  

But it all adds up to people unknowingly giving up a little bit of their freedom of choice and happily becoming automatons, and more than half the time this stuff is based on absolute BS and every one of these reports is coupled with some causal relationship to terminal diseases, like cancer, stroke, heart attack, and this kind of thing.  Then you end up with self-important people who claim to be experts who aren't experts and then run around appearing on television all the time proselytizing about this stuff, and it just sets up liberal Democrat politicians to feed off of and do the same thing.  

Let me read a little bit more from this story to you.  "You might assume our five-a-day fixation is based on firm evidence. But you’d be wrong." Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  "It started as a marketing campaign dreamt up by around 20 fruit and veg companies and the U.S. National Cancer Institute at a meeting in California in 1991," to suggest vegetables five days a week. "People in 25 countries, across three continents, have been urged to eat more greens, and have done so in their millions, believing it was good for them."  Where does this lead?  The first lady invades Walmarts and starts telling them what they can sell and at how

"With great fanfare, it was reported last week that the current health advice about eating five portions of fruit and vegetables a day is outdated, and that scientists now believe that eight portions is more beneficial." And with no more than that, people will believe it because it shows up in the media.  And scientists wouldn't lie about this, why would they anyway?  Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian, look what happened to him?  He died.  Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian exercise freak and look what happened to him.  He passed away.  It's amazing, isn't it?  "While many people grumbled about how on earth they would manage those extra portions, I allowed myself a wry smile."  This is Zoe Harcombe writing.  "For more than two years I’ve known that the 'five-a-day' mantra we’re all so familiar with is nothing but a fairytale. Of course, they are tasty, colorful additions to any meal. But in terms of health and nutrition, fruit and veg have little to offer, and telling us to eat eight portions a day is compounding one of the worst health fallacies in recent history.

"Surprised? Many people will be, and no doubt some dieticians and nutritionists will reject my arguments. But science backs me up. The latest findings come from a European study into diet and health looking at 300,000 people in eight countries. It found that people who ate eight or more portions of fresh food a day had a 22 per cent lower chance of dying from heart disease. Yet just 1,636 participants died during the study from heart disease, which is about half of one per cent. Out of that very small proportion, fewer people died from the group that ate more fruit and veg. However, the researchers cautioned that these people may have healthier lifestyles generally. They may be less likely to smoke; they may eat less processed food; they may be more active. What we should not do is to make the usual bad science leap from association to causation and say 'eating more fruit and veg lowers the risk of dying from heart disease.'"  If you want to believe it nothing's gonna talk you out of it.  And that's fine, if you want to believe it, go right ahead.  Just remember Jack LaLanne.  But feel free, just keep it to yourself.  

"This survey comes not long after another large study, which examined half a million people over eight years, reported that fruit and veg offer no protection against breast, prostate, bowel, lung or any other kind of tumor. Those eating the most fruit and veg showed no difference in cancer risk compared with those eating the least.  So how have we been duped for so long?  You might assume our five-a-day fixation is based on firm evidence. But you’d be wrong. It started as a marketing campaign dreamt up by around 20 fruit and veg companies and the U.S. National Cancer Institute at a meeting in California in 1991. And it’s been remarkably successful." My point with all this is, just live.  You don't need some government agency, some president, some first lady or some other authority figure from the government telling you what's good and what's bad 'cause it's all bad, it's all good.  Live!  Eating, whatever you do, it has consequences.  And no matter what you do, Jack LaLanne is a testament, you are going to die.  Everybody does.  

People have been turned into neurotics over all this kind of stuff.  I just hate, it scares me the ability that these nameless, faceless, authoritative, credible sounding organizations combined with a media report have the ability to essentially affect the behavior of massive, millions and millions of numbers of people, which of course does not help us in our quest against the whole notion of big government, nanny government and all of that.  I don't know how to put a number to this.  When Algore's movie came out, Earth in the Lurch, whatever it was called, Earth in the Balance, the movie, Inconvenient Truth, the number of people who bought that was striking.  I mean people I know.  People who think like I do, they bought it.  "Well, he was a former vice president, why would he lie about this?  He only wants to help people and save the planet."  No concept that there might be a political ideology behind this.  No concept there could be a political ideology behind all this fruit and vegetable stuff.  If not a political ideology, exclusively, maybe there is a propaganda campaign involving people who sell these things.  Who knows?  

But it all adds up to people unknowingly giving up a little bit of their freedom of choice and happily becoming automatons, and more than half the time this stuff is based on absolute BS and every one of these reports is coupled with some causal relationship to terminal diseases, like cancer, stroke, heart attack, and this kind of thing.  Then you end up with self-important people who claim to be experts who aren't experts and then run around appearing on television all the time proselytizing about this stuff, and it just sets up liberal Democrat politicians to feed off of and do the same thing.  

Let me read a little bit more from this story to you.  "You might assume our five-a-day fixation is based on firm evidence. But you’d be wrong." Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  "It started as a marketing campaign dreamt up by around 20 fruit and veg companies and the U.S. National Cancer Institute at a meeting in California in 1991," to suggest vegetables five days a week. "People in 25 countries, across three continents, have been urged to eat more greens, and have done so in their millions, believing it was good for them."  Where does this lead?  The first lady invades Walmarts and starts telling them what they can sell and at how

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 11:08:02 AM »
translation = you didn't actually listen to the words that Rush spoke

Coach - why don't you listen to what Rush said about diet and exercise and tell us if you agree

even better, go find the transcript of what he said and post it here



I already know what he says about diet and exercise, he doesn't like it, but to have "media matters" try to make an issue of it and targeting him is comical. LOL.

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 11:12:02 AM »
I already know what he says about diet and exercise, he doesn't like it, but to have "media matters" try to make an issue of it and targeting him is comical. LOL.

Media matter did nothing more than play his clip

Rush speaks for himself


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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 11:12:43 AM »

But science backs me up. The latest findings come from a European study into diet and health looking at 300,000 people in eight countries.

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Science backs him up! And he used a "European" study..

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 11:15:43 AM »
I agree with Rush on a lot of things, but he just don't want to exercise, and creates his own mantra on that.

Yesterday he said that "Lalanne finally sucumbe to the ravages of exercise."

Well, look, he's Rush Limbaugh, not Dr. Ken Leistner.  What do you want......


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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 11:16:47 AM »
Media matter did nothing more than play his clip

Rush speaks for himself



Hey, I didn't say I agree with him, I totally DISAGREE with him, you actually think Media Matters actually gives a shit what he thinks about diet and nutrition? It's all about him being a political figure and someone will put this out there come the next elections in some way, shape or form!

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 11:19:18 AM »
I remember years ago on either Carson or Leno they brought out an old man in his early 90s that ate nothing but hot dogs everyday for the last 60 years of his life (something like that).  I remember he said something to the effect that his doctor said his levels were all just fine.  I've had friends that had old relatives that smoked a pack a day, drank whiskey daily, had bacon and eggs for breakfast everyday and lived into their 90s and died peacefully in their sleep.  Jack Lalanne ate clean, natural foods and exercised daily his entire life and died at 96.  I've seen marathon running, vegetarians drop dead of heart attacks in their 40s and obese Twinkie stuffers living comfortably into their late 80s dying quietly at home their beds surrounded by family....and I've seen/heard the opposite. 

So, what's the conclusion:  We're all a little different so find what works for you and do that.   

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2011, 11:20:12 AM »
Damn I love politics.


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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2011, 11:21:47 AM »
here's what you look like when you follow Rush's advicse on Diet and Exercise

Hey Coach - it seems like Rush is saying your chosen profession is just a big fraud
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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2011, 11:22:27 AM »
As far as Rush's opinion is concerned, we all know why he's motivated....the spotlight....done and done.

Hey, you want ripped abs talk to someone that has ripped abs.  You want big arms then talk to a dude with big arms.  You want a fat butt then talk to someone with a fat butt.

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2011, 11:22:36 AM »
I remember years ago on either Carson or Leno they brought out an old man in his early 90s that ate nothing but hot dogs everyday for the last 60 years of his life (something like that).  I remember he said something to the effect that his doctor said his levels were all just fine.  I've had friends that had old relatives that smoked a pack a day, drank whiskey daily, had bacon and eggs for breakfast everyday and lived into their 90s and died peacefully in their sleep.  Jack Lalanne ate clean, natural foods and exercised daily his entire life and died at 96.  I've seen marathon running, vegetarians drop dead of heart attacks in their 40s and obese Twinkie stuffers living comfortably into their late 80s dying quietly at home their beds surrounded by family....and I've seen/heard the opposite. 

So, what's the conclusion:  We're all a little different so find what works for you and do that.   

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2011, 11:24:11 AM »
here's what you look like when you follow Rush's advicse on Diet and Exercise

Hey Coach - it seems like Rush is saying your chosen profession is just a big fraud
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Straw = meldown

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2011, 12:07:44 PM »
Straw = meldown

LOL

how is that a meltdown

if you need to know what a meltdown looks like you should refer back to your Joe Loco posts

I'm just pointing out the idiocy of this fat turd that you worship

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2011, 12:11:22 PM »
Rush gets paid hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2011, 12:12:00 PM »

Yesterday he said that "Lalanne finally sucumbe to the ravages of exercise."


LMFAOOOOO!!!!!!

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2011, 12:13:17 PM »
Eating healthy has more to do with the quality of your life. If you have two people who live to 90years old, one who does so all while eating and living healthy and the other who is a gluton the question raised is who enjoyed their life more? If you eat junk food or generally speaking are a gluton your reward is the pleasure of eating but most likely at the cost of being obese. If you eat healthy your reward is a body that looks, feels and functions better and the consequence is not being able to overindulge. To eah their own. Eating like crap is easy which is why so much of the world is obese. Eating healthy requires discipline and I am finding that skill is becoming more and more scarce.

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Re: "Jack LaLanne was a vegetarian and he died"
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2011, 12:36:23 PM »
I remember years ago on either Carson or Leno they brought out an old man in his early 90s that ate nothing but hot dogs everyday for the last 60 years of his life (something like that).  I remember he said something to the effect that his doctor said his levels were all just fine.  I've had friends that had old relatives that smoked a pack a day, drank whiskey daily, had bacon and eggs for breakfast everyday and lived into their 90s and died peacefully in their sleep.  Jack Lalanne ate clean, natural foods and exercised daily his entire life and died at 96.  I've seen marathon running, vegetarians drop dead of heart attacks in their 40s and obese Twinkie stuffers living comfortably into their late 80s dying quietly at home their beds surrounded by family....and I've seen/heard the opposite. 

So, what's the conclusion:  We're all a little different so find what works for you and do that.   

your a fuckin clown

the guy who ate hot dogs all his life didnt live to be 90 because he ate hot dogs. moron. and the marathon running vegetarian didnt die in his 40's because of his healthy lifestyle either.

damn some people are fucking retarded