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CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T
AP ^ | January 26, 2011


Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:19:52 AM by kcvl

Edited on Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:22:51 AM by Admin Moderator. [history]


Washington (AP) — A new estimate predicts the federal budget deficit will hit almost $1.5 trillion this year, a stunning new record.




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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 08:44:52 AM »
i thought the health care bill was supposed to fix this?

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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 08:46:02 AM »
i thought the health care bill was supposed to fix this?

Obama:   Lets "Invest" more!    ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 11:02:47 AM »
Obama:   Lets "Invest" more!    ::)  ::)  ::)

We need to cut the deficit by spending more money and by making government bigger.

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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 11:07:21 AM »
We need to cut the deficit by spending more money and by making government bigger.

What was funny wasthat he originally claimed his bs stim bill would creat 3-4 million jobs.   3 years later he is claiming 1 million, and even if true, at a cost of 400k each!


And the Obama cabana boys wonder why mature adults are horrified at this spectacle of an Admn? 

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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T - a stunning new record.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 01:02:59 PM »
Deficits on pace to hit $2.58 trillion
Politico.com ^ | 1-26-11 | David Rogers





New budget estimates Wednesday paint a grim picture of the nation’s fiscal state, with the government on pace to rack up combined deficits of $2.58 trillion for 2011 and 2012 even with an improved economy.

With the Treasury already warning it will have exhausted the government’s borrowing authority this spring, the Congressional Budget Office report is the most up-to-date analysis of just how big an increase in the debt ceiling will be needed prior to the 2012 elections.

“CBO’s report should be another wake-up call to the nation,” said Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.). “We can’t continue to put this off. We need to reach an agreement this year. The President’s Fiscal Commission provided a model for a bipartisan way forward. Now it is up to the administration and members on both sides of the aisle in Congress to come together to finish the job.”

The deficit numbers are sure to add to the pressure now from Republicans for more spending cuts first, but the GOP must also contend with the added cost of the year-end bargain it struck with the White House expanding on Bush-era tax breaks and adding payroll tax relief.

For the current fiscal year ending Sept. 30, CBO is projecting a deficit of $1.48 trillion, or $414 billion more than it assumed last August. And in fiscal 2012—for which President Barack Obama will submit his budget next month—CBO’s baseline now assumes a deficit of $1.1 trillion compared to $665 billion last summer.


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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T - a stunning new record.
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 01:49:30 PM »
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"Reagan proved deficits don't matter"~ Dick Cheney (2002)
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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T - a stunning new record.
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 07:29:32 PM »
Social Security fund now seen to be empty by 2037
AP/Yahoo ^ | 1/26/11 | Stephen Olemacher



Sick and getting sicker, Social Security will run at a deficit this year and keep on running in the red until its trust funds are drained by about 2037, congressional budget experts said Wednesday in bleaker-than-previous estimates.

The massive retirement program has been suffering from the effects of the struggling economy for several years. It first went into deficit last year but had been projected to post surpluses for a few more years before permanently slipping into the red in 2016

This year alone, Social Security will pay out $45 billion more in retirement, disability and survivors' benefits than it collects in payroll taxes, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said. That figure nearly triples — to $130 billion — when the new one-year cut in payroll taxes is included.


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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T - a stunning new record.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 08:37:01 PM »
:o
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter"~ Dick Cheney (2002)

When your economy is growing far faster than your deficits, no, deficits dont matter. But when your deficits are growing waaaayyy faster than your economy, yes , they do matter.
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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T - a stunning new record.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 08:50:38 PM »
yeah, that "all in" stuff... code words for another Stim bill?  I didn't watch the speeches, nor did I catch any coverage today.

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Re: CBO: this year's budget deficit to hit $1.5T - a stunning new record.
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2011, 09:10:13 PM »
When your economy is growing far faster than your deficits, no, deficits dont matter. But when your deficits are growing waaaayyy faster than your economy, yes , they do matter.
Hmmm...nice try but not only is that historically incorrect, it is not even the context for which Cheney made that statement. Cheney was not espousing an economic theory, but stating that since Reagan won re-election by pulling the pull over the eyes of the American people, POLITICALLY Reagan showed that deficits don't matter. Meaning, ultimately the American people don't give a shit.
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The Complete Failure of Supply-Side Economics
Wed Dec 13, 2006

Starting with Reagan in 1980, the Republican Party embraced and implemented "supply-side" economics.  The central theory of supply-side economics was politically an easy sell: if the government cuts tax rates – especially on the wealthy – the wealthy will feel more inclined to earn more money.  This will encourage the wealthy to make even more money.  This will lead to higher tax revenue, which will more than offset the loss of revenue from the initial tax cuts.  The central problem is no matter how you look at the results, they didn’t work as advertised.

Reagan started the implementation in 1981, cutting upper-income taxes from roughly 70% to 50%.   But a funny thing happened.  Tax revenues were stagnant for 4 years from 1981 to 1984.  For the years 1981-1984, revenues from individual taxpayers were (in billions) $285, $297, $288 and $298, (click on historical budget data) respectively.  While the double-dip recession is partially responsible for the first two years, the economy came out of the recession November 1982.  Yet for two more years, the rich didn’t feel unencumbered enough to increase their work efforts.  At the same time, discretionary spending increased from $307 billion to $379 billion – an increase of 29%.  This discrepancy between revenues and receipts then continued for the rest of Reagan’s presidency.  Here is a chart from the St. Loius Federal Reserve that shows the discrepancy.  Expenditures are blue and receipts are red.



There are three problems with Reagan’s overall economic policy. The first is the massive amount of debt he incurred for economic growth (which we’ll get too in a minute).  The second was Reagan did not implement the other side of conservative fiscal policy – cutting spending.  The third problem was the US did not achieve a super-human rate of national product growth.  The median quarterly change in GDP during Reagan’s tenure was 3.85%.  This is a good rate of growth.  But the cost was substantial because to achieve this growth Reagan used debt which the US has not paid off.


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