Author Topic: Vice President Joe Biden says unemployed should ‘hang in there’ (Read 1202 times)

loco · « **on:** January 28, 2011, 08:17:13 AM »

"So the message is 'hang in there?'" Yahoo!'s Anna Robertson asked.

"The message is hang in there," he repeated.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110128/ts_yblog_theticket/vice-president-says-unemployed-should-hang-in-there/print

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:27:31 AM »

Hope and change.

Option D · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:42:34 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 28, 2011, 08:27:31 AM

Hope and change.

you are so gay

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:51:12 AM »

Hope and change to hang in there! Ha ha ha ha.

What a WTF this admn is.

Option D · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:59:38 AM »

yeah it only takes 2 years to get out of a complete clusterfuck.. thats all.. fuckin dork

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:00:57 AM »

By their own bogus promises they are a miserable failure.

dario73 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:08:02 AM »

Bush steered the car into the ditch. Obama and his idiotic party have attached plastic explosives to the car and blown it to bits.

Option D · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:13:36 AM »

Quote from: dario73 on January 28, 2011, 09:08:02 AM

Bush steered the car into the ditch. Obama and his idiotic party have attached plastic explosives to the car and blown it to bits.

Because 30mil more people have healthcare?.. God damn it

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:15:06 AM »

Mal - that has to be your most embarrassing post ever.

Hahahaha. Just mail it in now. Ha ha ha ha.

Option D · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:16:28 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 28, 2011, 09:15:06 AM

Mal - that has to be your most embarrassing post ever.

Hahahaha. Just mail it in now. Ha ha ha ha.

yeah.. and why is that.. you see this is a discussion.. insults are good as long as they are followed by some substance

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:21:12 AM »

30 million people are not getting a damn thing. They are getting a gun to their head by obama to buy insurance via a mandate as a result of the corrupt deal he made w the carriers.

If I put a gun to your head and force you to treat patients, should we clap and cheer that the patients are "getting healthcare"

?

Option D · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:24:59 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 28, 2011, 09:21:12 AM

30 million people are not getting a damn thing. They are getting a gun to their head by obama to buy insurance via a mandate as a result of the corrupt deal he made w the carriers.

If I put a gun to your head and force you to treat patients, should we clap and cheer that the patients are "getting healthcare"?

So the 25 year olds that are still covered under moms plan .. they were forced to do something..

Hmm.. dude quit

tonymctones · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:36:51 AM »

Quote from: Option D on January 28, 2011, 09:24:59 AM

So the 25 year olds that are still covered under moms plan .. they were forced to do something..

Hmm.. dude quit

whats their premiums look like mal?

the health care bill was supposed to lower premiums give more benefits etc...

well broham sorry nothing is free in this world, if youre going to increase benefits youre going to increase costs

this bill does shit absolute shit

id say the only good thing about this bill is the pre existing conditions clause other than that this bill is an absolute shit ball

Option D · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:46:31 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on January 28, 2011, 09:36:51 AM

whats their premiums look like mal?
the health care bill was supposed to lower premiums give more benefits etc...
well broham sorry nothing is free in this world, if youre going to increase benefits youre going to increase costs
this bill does shit absolute shit
id say the only good thing about this bill is the pre existing conditions clause other than that this bill is an absolute shit ball

Ok real quick, a couple of things...Take it for what you want but these are some factors
Initially, i knew this would be costly because of the new insured patients who had gone with out healthcare suddenly with access. So they had conditions that were worse than those with healthcare. So it will level out in a few years. Also taxpayers had to pay the high cost of ER (which is the most expensive part of medicine) Its cheaper to treat a pt with annual visits than it is to treat numerous ER visits. When ErVisits are reduced because of a more monitored approach.. It will level out..
Dont get me wrong. Its definatley fucked up because im more of the "shit or get off the pot" guy. But you have to admit, because of this Bill.. More people are healthy

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:51:27 AM »

Fucking brilliant - screw up the entire health system for 15% of the people, man y of who choose not to have insura nce.

Fury · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:53:48 AM »

Let's add tens of millions of more people to an already broken system and then expect it to miraculously function better!

Should have fixed the system first and then down the road added those people in. But why should common sense be used in far-left politics?

blacken700 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:59:53 AM »

or just turn your head and pretend there is no problem like the right does

Option D · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:00:53 AM »

Well if the shit is broken, might as well get more people healthy

loco · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:01:17 AM »

Quote from: Option D on January 28, 2011, 09:24:59 AM

So the 25 year olds that are still covered under moms plan .. they were forced to do something..

Hmm.. dude quit

Because of this, premiums are getting so high it would have been cheaper for mom to buy her 25 year old individual insurance and pay out her own pocket before ObamaCare ever happened.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:02:13 AM »

Quote from: Option D on January 28, 2011, 10:00:53 AM

Well if the shit is broken, might as well get more people healthy

Like everything obama and the incompetent left do, they turn a bad situation into a catasrophe.

240 is Back · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:04:02 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 28, 2011, 09:00:57 AM

By their own bogus promises they are a miserable failure.

Bush missed his own iraq victory benchmarks by 4000 lives, 1 trillion dollars, and 6 years.

Do you consider the iraq war a failure too, 33?

Option D · « **Reply #21 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:04:29 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 28, 2011, 10:04:02 AM

Bush missed his own iraq victory benchmarks by 4000 lives, 1 trillion dollars, and 6 years.

Do you consider the iraq war a failure too, 33?

no.. bush is a repub

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #22 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:06:52 AM »

I never remember Bush saying the war would be totally free and no one would die. Enlighten me 240.

As for Pres. WTF, why didnt he tout the successes of the stim bill in his speach for 3 million new jobs? Oh thats right.

tonymctones · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:07:52 AM »

Quote from: Option D on January 28, 2011, 09:46:31 AM

Ok real quick, a couple of things...Take it for what you want but these are some factors
Initially, i knew this would be costly because of the new insured patients who had gone with out healthcare suddenly with access. So they had conditions that were worse than those with healthcare. So it will level out in a few years. Also taxpayers had to pay the high cost of ER (which is the most expensive part of medicine) Its cheaper to treat a pt with annual visits than it is to treat numerous ER visits. When ErVisits are reduced because of a more monitored approach.. It will level out..
Dont get me wrong. Its definatley fucked up because im more of the "shit or get off the pot" guy. But you have to admit, because of this Bill.. More people are healthy

I agree with that part but the idea that it will level out is just assinine bro

first off the money that was being paid to cover those costs wasnt going to the insurance company it was going to the GOVT...you think the govt is going to all of a sudden start taking less of our money b/c they may have less bills? and thats even if it does work...

the insurance companies are going to continue to raise premiums b/c they have more risks they have to pay for all those preventative visits.

this bill does nothing to contain costs mal absolutely nothing...

you say it wil level off and lets just say youre right, what stops the rising costs to the consumer?

Fury · « **Reply #24 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:12:01 AM »

Quote from: Option D on January 28, 2011, 10:00:53 AM

Well if the shit is broken, might as well get more people healthy

This is the underlying theme of the far-left: Why fix something when you can just ignore it and dump it off on someone else down the line?

Yes, we might as well get more people healthy....until this entire country collapses from the debt load and no one can get healthy.