friends,,i gave you rules already in past,,
you will always play around 190-230lb 5'10 if only on steroid and gh 7lb per inch ofcourse,,if want thicker larger,,fuller the use of insulin get in picture with the hgh,,you can not be german ronny with out the use of both hgh and insulin ,,he is very short and very large and thick,,imposible with out insulin and hgh put together,,and sadly it is must in pro bodybuild now day,,and also among top amatur is be a must eventhough it should not,,
so as said very simple rule
165lb 5'10 stage...natural
180lb 5;10 stage ...homonized with steroid only
200+ 5'10 stage ....homonized with both steroid and hgh,,
220-230 5'10 on stage ....homonized with steroid hgh and insulin
now thos are minimums...its not ont he dot there is deviation few poundage here and there,,but this is pretty much bodybuld for you friends,,if you cant get to be 197lb on stage without use of insulin then bodybuild is not for you,,
if you cant get 180 lb on stage with out use of gh ...then bodybuild is not for you,,
etc etc etc
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