Obamacare = PWNED!

[Lundgren]

Breaking News: Florida Judge Rules Individual Mandate in Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

Obamacare must be declared VOID (Judges words not mine)

http://www.foxnews.com/

lolz you kunt tree is the shitz dude, even dagostan got free healtcare.

[tonymctones]

it doesnt cut down costs for the consumer but it makes sure people with pre existing conditions can get coverage, as well as letting people stay on parents plans untill they are 26.


we already pay enough in taxes to cover healthcare, theres no reason why we should have to buy private coverage, we just need a complete overhaul of the current medicare system

I agree with the bold and those are good things but you see the thing is that the health insurance companies are just going to raise premiums to adjust for those increased risks...

if nothing is done to help limit the cost to the consumer it really doesnt do anything except add more customers and money to the insurance companies bottom line...

we need to stop paying for it is what we need, take responsibility for yourself is what needs to be said. If you go to the doctor or hospital without insurance and you cant pay your wages get garnered to help pay.

this of course needs to be done in conjunction with lowering health care costs to make it affordable. More plans need to be made available and more companies need to be able to compete. To do that you have to help limit the amount of risk the insurance companies take on again leading to tort reform to help alleviate some of their burden.

[big L dawg]

"If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, bitching, complaining, simple-minded self- righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for awhile"


this guy knows coach no doubt...

[tonymctones]

"If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, bitching, complaining, simple-minded self- righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for awhile"


this guy knows coach no doubt...

he has is the other way around...

republicans are the whining, bitching, complaining, simple minded, self righteous idiots

conservatives, REAL CONSERVATIVES are simple, just want to be left alone and not be told what to do or tell others what to do, for personal responsibility and try to treat others the way they are treated 

[GroinkTropin]

let me say this before bob chic deletes this:

on a list complied by the nati,onl sec,urity admin.stration

they had the top 5 'interests' that are VITAL to national security

#3 on the list was water

more specifically DRINKABLE water

70% of earth is covered in water - only 1% is drinkable

bottled water is already a 60billion dollar a year industry

loook at stock of nestle corp - swiss company - largest investment in bottle water

ask ANYONE at FDA about Bisphenol A

We isolated BPA from water bottles in chem last semester. Whats your point?

[MB]

It should be about personal responsibility and taking care of your health.  There is no need to have a 3rd party (insurance company) taking a large chunk of the money exchanged between you and your doctor.  I would like to see employers contribute directly to the individual in a health savings account that roles over each year and is transferable when you switch jobs.  This would replace insurance nicely without increasing the burden on employers. 

[Spike]

they used to be in Time-Out ... but all those threads are long gone in there now  .. ( kidding )

I know who has them gave their word .. and I know it's good

holy shit if your not kidding and your a chic that fckn incredible seriously

but if your woten fckn around ovr there in southern whales Imma be pissed as shit

[Master Blaster]

It should be about personal responsibility and taking care of your health.  There is no need to have a 3rd party (insurance company) taking a large chunk of the money exchanged between you and your doctor.  I would like to see employers contribute directly to the individual in a health savings account that roles over each year and is transferable when you switch jobs.  This would replace insurance nicely without increasing the burden on employers. 

 

Yeah so when I get brain surgery they can pull 2 million dollars out of my personal health savings account. 

Insurance = a risk pool idiot.

[Spike]

We isolated BPA from water bottles in chem last semester. Whats your point?

then you know the effects

here a chem test for ya brah:
take water samples in electrospectronmeter from
a) a container of bottle water at store
b) same water but leave it in trunk of a car for a week ovr the summer

if you isolated it from water bottles you prove my point - its used in cheap plastics that contain WATER a resource that is VITAL to human life, one of the most important things you NEED and put into your body on a daily basis and the containers you drink from have the chemical present in them


now dont see it as 'dosage' look at BPA on a viewpoint of exposure and that happens to americanos millions of times a day when we drink from container that contain this chemical

BP(oil) = process where BPA is salvaged from petro production including benzene = container made for NESTLE who owns deer park, arrowhead, ozarka, water companies that bottle IN STATE and thus have no regulation from FDA so you have a container with this chemical in it your kid may drink

you should know what BPA is and what it does when regular exposure happens - FDA is paid not to comment on specific chem due to oil company interests

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Breaking News: Florida Judge Rules Individual Mandate in Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

Obamacare must be declared VOID (Judges words not mine)

http://www.foxnews.com/

Hate to tell you this, but no state or federal judge can overturn a law.  Only the Supreme Court would have the final say and even then, it only strikes out that one portion of the Health Care Bill. 


Ultimately, what you don't pay voluntarilly will end up in your taxes.

[MB]

Yeah so when I get brain surgery they can pull 2 million dollars out of my personal health savings account. 

Insurance = a risk pool idiot.

Catastrophic insurance would be a personal choice.  It's safe to say that most people will never need brain surgery, and would do just fine on $6k/year for 45 years, which would add up greatly with compounding interest.  

[tonymctones]

Hate to tell you this, but no state or federal judge can overturn a law.  Only the Supreme Court would have the final say and even then, it only strikes out that one portion of the Health Care Bill. 


Ultimately, what you don't pay voluntarilly will end up in your taxes.

I hate to tell you this they are going to tax us the same either way. You think our taxes will go down if we have universal health care? Lol

This bill does nothing to help limit the cost of health care in fact it makes it more expensive

[Firemuscle]

 The health care system in the US is so fucked up.

 In just about every other country I can think of, the people get health insurance FOR FREE.

 This whole concept of making people pay for health insurance and privatizing the health care industry is just wrong.

 I can't believe conservatives in the USA have let themselves be brainwashd into supporting the deeply corrupt privatized health insurers.

[tonymctones]

The health care system in the US is so fucked up.

 In just about every other country I can think of, the people get health insurance FOR FREE.

 This whole concept of making people pay for health insurance and privatizing the health care industry is just wrong.

 I can't believe conservatives in the USA have let themselves be brainwashd into supporting the deeply corrupt privatized health insurers.

We don't support the insurance companies and the US has some of the best health care in the world because it's privatized.

[Spike]

We don't support the insurance companies and the US has some of the best health care in the world because it's privatized.

indeed

privitized leaves room for DENTISTRY, ORTHODONTICS, CRUCIAL shit in the healthcare system that some countries OBVIOULSY DONT HAVE

jeeZUS everytime I see a hot brit girl with a fckd up grill it ruins shit for me

[Doug_Steele]

indeed

privitized leaves room for DENTISTRY, ORTHODONTICS, CRUCIAL shit in the healthcare system that some countries OBVIOULSY DONT HAVE

jeeZUS everytime I see a hot brit girl with a fckd up grill it ruins shit for me

Just go see a Dr. and pay the bill later. 

[Firemuscle]

We don't support the insurance companies and the US has some of the best health care in the world because it's privatized.

 In the US the health care does have good quality.

 The big problem is that health care in the US is WAYYYYYYYYYY too fucking expensive. And if you don't have health insurance you can get stuck with a $20,000 bill easily. It's just wrong.

 Privatized health care is terrible.

 It thrives because filthy rich insurers lobby bribe politicians to support privatized health care. And propaganda goes towards supporting privatized health care too.

 It's all just a little corrupt system where the poor get fucked hard. And everyone t the top is making BIG money off it. So there is almost nobody in power he would dare to oppose it.

[Firemuscle]

Just go see a Dr. and pay the bill later.  

 I checked out dentists all over South America and Asia.

 Most of them have American level quality. But cost about 10% as much as the US.

 Of course there are some bad dentists and hspitals too. But most countries have a lot of high quality dentists and a few high quality hospitals.

 Health care..... a couple months go I went to the hospital and had a full physical here. It cost me 30$ US for the exact same stuff. Same quality. Same everything. In the US it would be hundreds. Maybe even a thousand for the same shit.

 And of course I don't pay a die for health insurance. It's all government run. Free.

 Lots of Americans think hospitals and dentists in other countries are shitty and low-quality. But there are at least like 20 countries out there with quality just as good as the US.

 I don't know ho you all can't see it. Maybe you all havn't traveled much or something. But health care in the US is FUCKED UP.

[225for70]

I checked out dentists all over South America and Asia.

 Most of them have American level quality. But cost about 10% as much as the US.

 Of course there are some bad dentists and hspitals too. But most countries have a lot of high quality dentists and a few high quality hospitals.

 Health care..... a couple months go I went to the hospital and had a full physical here. It cost me 30$ US for the exact same stuff. Same quality. Same everything. In the US it would be hundreds. Maybe even a thousand for the same shit.

 And of course I don't pay a die for health insurance. It's all government run. Free.

 Lots of Americans think hospitals and dentists in other countries are shitty and low-quality. But there are at least like 20 countries out there with quality just as good as the US.

 I don't know ho you all can't see it. Maybe you all havn't traveled much or something. But health care in the US is FUCKED UP.

Good post, i agree..I just ordered some migraine medication from India for 4.00 per pill..In the united states the same medication costs 40 dollars a pill..That's a big price differential for the same ingredient..Taxation without representation

[#1 Klaus fan]

Funny thing Coach that you didn't say anything when Air Forces did the most unconstitutional act by blocking web pages with Wikileaks material. Goes to show how much you respect your constitution.

None.

[Coach is Back!]

In the US the health care does have good quality.

 The big problem is that health care in the US is WAYYYYYYYYYY too fucking expensive. And if you don't have health insurance you can get stuck with a $20,000 bill easily. It's just wrong.

 Privatized health care is terrible.

 It thrives because filthy rich insurers lobby bribe politicians to support privatized health care. And propaganda goes towards supporting privatized health care too.

 It's all just a little corrupt system where the poor get fucked hard. And everyone t the top is making BIG money off it. So there is almost nobody in power he would dare to oppose it.

I guaranty most of the people who say they can't afford health insurance pay more for other useless crap they don't even need. I can also guaranty that most in the inner city who say they can't afford health care find a way to pay for their habits. There are 3 in my family, myself, my son and wife, I pay $394.00 per mo. and I'm 48, full coverage PPO.

[Spike]

I checked out dentists all over South America and Asia.

 Most of them have American level quality. But cost about 10% as much as the US.

 Of course there are some bad dentists and hspitals too. But most countries have a lot of high quality dentists and a few high quality hospitals.

 Health care..... a couple months go I went to the hospital and had a full physical here. It cost me 30$ US for the exact same stuff. Same quality. Same everything. In the US it would be hundreds. Maybe even a thousand for the same shit.

 And of course I don't pay a die for health insurance. It's all government run. Free.

 Lots of Americans think hospitals and dentists in other countries are shitty and low-quality. But there are at least like 20 countries out there with quality just as good as the US.

 I don't know ho you all can't see it. Maybe you all havn't traveled much or something. But health care in the US is FUCKED UP.

im sorry i wasnt stompin on other countries im just sayin britian seems kinda 'behind' as far as dentistry and socialized medicine

fckn russia - good dentists/ germany / UAE/ Israel - i wasnt sayin america is best at all

just sayin Ive seem quite a few fine ass brit chic but grill was busted to hell and back = no go for mr jones

[Firemuscle]

I guaranty most of the people who say they can't afford health insurance pay more for other useless crap they don't even need. I can also guaranty that most in the inner city who say they can't afford health care find a way to pay for their habits. There are 3 in my family, myself, my son and wife, I pay $394.00 per mo. and I'm 48, full coverage PPO.

 The country I live in right now. Nobody ever pays a dime for insurance. They can go to the hospital any time and get anything done for a very affordable price.

 You need a surgery? No problem. Probably not too expensive.

 How can you defend the American system? It's the most expensive money leeching system on Earth.

 Like that other guy said, it's taxation without representation.

[bigdumbbell]

Hate to tell you this, but no state or federal judge can overturn a law.  Only the Supreme Court would have the final say and even then, it only strikes out that one portion of the Health Care Bill.  


Ultimately, what you don't pay voluntarilly will end up in your taxes.

as simply and correctly you've summarized the judges opinion.  The Coach will not comprehend what you've just stated

[tonymctones]

In the US the health care does have good quality.

 The big problem is that health care in the US is WAYYYYYYYYYY too fucking expensive. And if you don't have health insurance you can get stuck with a $20,000 bill easily. It's just wrong.

 Privatized health care is terrible.

 It thrives because filthy rich insurers lobby bribe politicians to support privatized health care. And propaganda goes towards supporting privatized health care too.

 It's all just a little corrupt system where the poor get fucked hard. And everyone t the top is making BIG money off it. So there is almost nobody in power he would dare to oppose it.

nothing is free bro, what are your tax rates?

im not saying the US is the best run system or that its care is number one but alot of ppl come to the US specifically for health care...

you keep saying "free, free, free" nothing is free bro