CBO projects new health policy costs...

[War-Horse]

Not good.   A nongroup is a single policy on your own.  Smallgroup is 50employees and Large is 50 emp. or over....


http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10781/11-30-Premiums.pdf

[tonymctones]

are you going to tell us how this bill is going to save us all money???

[War-Horse]

are you going to tell us how this bill is going to save us all money???

Read it.   It stays at 5,800 a year for individual policies.  and 15,000 a year for company people.........as i said.....not impressed..

[tonymctones]

Read it.   It stays at 5,800 a year for individual policies.  and 15,000 a year for company people.........as i said.....not impressed..

as opposed to what?

are you still under the impression this is going to save us money or no?

[Soul Crusher]

Its making things worse.

[Kazan]

as opposed to what?

are you still under the impression this is going to save us money or no?

Its not going to do anything accept bankrupt the insurance companies and create a void for the government to step in with the public option. I don't why its so hard to see the, the government doesn't just take something over, it goes in small steps. Sometimes taking decades but the end game is government control

[Soul Crusher]

I thinbk that is what obama told kookcinich to change his mind.

[tonymctones]

Its not going to do anything accept bankrupt the insurance companies and create a void for the government to step in with the public option. I don't why its so hard to see the, the government doesn't just take something over, it goes in small steps. Sometimes taking decades but the end game is government control

I agree, thats why obama passed this shit bill b/c he knew it was just one step closer to what he wanted

[War-Horse]

as opposed to what?

are you still under the impression this is going to save us money or no?

If you read the report it will save 10% or so.  Thats not good as far as premiums go.  But the huge burden on taxpayers should go down as we wont carry the uninsured....they have theyre own policy.

[War-Horse]

Its not going to do anything accept bankrupt the insurance companies and create a void for the government to step in with the public option. I don't why its so hard to see the, the government doesn't just take something over, it goes in small steps. Sometimes taking decades but the end game is government control

No.  If you read the link, the premiums stay about the same. So they can add 32 million customers and still turn hideously gross profits every quarter.

[Soul Crusher]

Ha ha ha ha.   Yeah ok.  Keep beleiving that. 

[tonymctones]

If you read the report it will save 10% or so.  Thats not good as far as premiums go.  But the huge burden on taxpayers should go down as we wont carry the uninsured....they have theyre own policy.

please tell me what page it says 10% or so on....

you dumb ass did you read the the part that talked about federal subsidies?

who do you think is going to pay for those subsidies?

goodness gracious

whats 2-2?

well if you give me 2 and take 2 away guess what, its the same

[War-Horse]

please tell me what page it says 10% or so on....

you dumb ass did you read the the part that talked about federal subsidies?

who do you think is going to pay for those subsidies?

goodness gracious

whats 2-2?

well if you give me 2 and take 2 away guess what, its the same

Yes for poverty level people......are you one of them???

[tonymctones]

Yes for poverty level people......are you one of them???

LOL no not based on the poverty level....

and again what page does it refer to around 10%?

[Kazan]

No.  If you read the link, the premiums stay about the same. So they can add 32 million customers and still turn hideously gross profits every quarter.

So the cost of medical treatment is never ever going to go up? And the 32 million people that are being added are completely healthy and are never going to need to see a doctor?

[tonymctones]

So the cost of medical treatment is never ever going to go up? And the 32 million people that are being added are completely healthy and are never going to need to see a doctor?

I dont think that war horse has a real good idea of how insurance works

[Kazan]

I dont think that war horse has a real good idea of how insurance works

Maybe its just me but I can't comprehend that fact that people willing give up their rights and personal freedom. And its always due to an emotional response for the unknown number of faceless poor who will somehow benefit

[War-Horse]

I dont think that war horse has a real good idea of how insurance works

Why would you say that?  All things being equal if someone hands the ins company 5,800 for the year and has the odds of seeking medical on the same ratio as today.    Right now they turn huge profits on That amount.   Now of course there will be adjustments yearly.   Actuaries have this figured out.
I know insurance better than you tony.  I feel like im teaching a 5th grade class....