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9.0% UE? What a freaking joke. Who buys in to this nonsense?
« on: February 04, 2011, 10:13:31 AM »
Unemployment falls to 9 pct., nearly 2-year low
Unemployment rate falls to 9 pct., lowest since April 2009

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Unemployment-falls-to-90-pct-apf-1708751437.html?x=0&.v=3



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In this Feb. 1, 2011 photo, unemployed Jorge Garcia waits for work at the Day Worker Center of Mountain View in Mountain View, Calif. The unemployment rate dropped sharply last month to 9 percent, the lowest level in nearly two years. But the economy generated only 36,000 net new jobs, the fewest in four months.(AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)
Christopher S. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer, On Friday February 4, 2011, 1:02 pm




WASHINGTON (AP) -- The unemployment rate is sinking at the fastest pace in half a century because a surprisingly large number of people say they're finding work.

The decline conflicts with a survey of businesses that showed weak job growth last month. But that survey doesn't count the self-employed and likely undercounts the nation's smallest businesses. Also, harsh weather disrupted business payrolls in January.

The unemployment rate dropped sharply last month to 9 percent, based on a government survey that found that more than a half-million people found work. A separate Labor Department survey of company payrolls showed 36,000 net jobs created -- barely a quarter of the number needed to keep pace with population growth.

The government's survey of households, which is used to calculate the unemployment rate, measures the self-employed, farm workers and household employees. Many economists also say the household survey includes more people who work at small companies.

"What we're finding is that there are a lot of folks that are saying that they are starting new businesses or they are self-employed," said Labor Secretary Hilda Solis. "That doesn't always get reflected in the payrolls survey."

The number of people who called themselves self-employed rose by 165,000 to 9.7 million in January, the report said. That's the highest total since last May.

"It is clear that the drop in unemployment reflected more jobs being added, not a drop in the labor force," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight.

Harsh snowstorms last month also affected the payroll survey. They cut into construction employment, which fell by 32,000, the most since May. Transportation and warehousing was also likely affected and fell by 38,000 -- the most in a year.

"The thumbprints of the weather were all over this report," said Neil Dutta, an economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Hiring was suppressed last month and will likely rebound in February, he said. "We know the job market is recovering."

In one bright spot, manufacturing added 49,000 jobs, the most since August 1998. And retailers added 28,000 jobs, the largest number in a year.

The unemployment rate has fallen by eight-tenths of a percentage point in the past two months. That's the steepest two-month drop in nearly 53 years.

But part of that drop has occurred as many of those out of work gave up on their job searches. When unemployed people stop looking for jobs, the government no longer counts them as unemployed.

The number of people who have given up looking rose to 2.8 million last month, from 2.6 million in December. About one million of those workers said they were discouraged. The others stopped looking because they returned to school or for other reasons.

And the participation rate, which is the percentage of the working-age population working or looking for work, fell to a 26-year low of 64.2 percent.

The number of people unemployed fell by more than 600,000 in January to 13.9 million. That's still about double the total that were out of work before the recession began in December 2007.

The January jobs report also includes the government's annual revisions to the employment data, which showed that fewer jobs were created in 2010 than previously thought. All told, about 950,000 net new jobs were added last year, down from a previous estimate of 1.1 million. The economy lost about 8 million jobs in 2008 and 2009.

In the past three months, the economy generated an average of 83,000 net jobs per month. That's not enough to keep up with population growth.

The weakness in the government payroll survey was widespread. Restaurants and hotels cut 2,200 jobs. Governments shed 14,000 positions. And temporary help agencies eliminated 11,000 jobs. Financial services lost 10,000 positions.

Education and health care services, one of the few steady job generators through the downturn, added 13,000 jobs, the fewest in almost two years. Financial services lost 10,000 jobs.

The number of people employed part time, but who would like full-time work, fell sharply to 8.4 million, from 8.9 million in December. When taken together with the people who have given up looking for work, the so-called "underemployment" rate was 16.1 percent. That's down from 16.7 percent the previous month.

Other recent reports show the economy is picking up. Factories are cranking out more goods, retail sales are increasing, and fewer people are applying for unemployment benefits.

Consumers are spending more and businesses are investing in more equipment and machinery. That's expected to lift economic growth to 3.2 percent this year, according to an AP survey of economists, compared to 2.9 percent in 2010.

Mark Hamrick of AP Broadcast contributed to this report.

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 10:14:28 AM »
But the economy generated only 36,000 net new jobs, the fewest in four months.(AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 10:18:22 AM »
So it's started. Expect these numbers to keep miraculously trickling up as election season gets nearer.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 10:19:54 AM »
NFP +36,000, Huge Miss To +146,000 Expectations....
Zero Hedge ^ | 02/04/2011 | Tyler Durden


...9% Unemployment, Not Seasonally Adjusted U-6 Surges From 16.6% to 17.3%


Highlights

* Change in Private Payrolls (Jan) M/M 50K vs. Exp. 145K (Prev. 113K) * Change in Manufacturing Payrolls (Jan) M/M 49K vs. Exp. 10K (Prev. 10K) * Seasonally adjusted U-6 underemployment 16.1% from 16.6% previously * Much more importantly, Not-seasonally adjusted U-6 surged from 16.6% to 17.3%! * The civilian labor force declined from 153,690 to 153,186 * Government workers: from 20,759K to 20,740K * Labor force participation at 64.2%, the lowest since March March 1984 * Part-time workers for economic reasons: 8,407 * Part-time workers for non-economic reasons: 17,552 * Birth/Death adjustment: -339,000

We are now all awaiting Snow Lavorgna to appear and explain how January snow is to blame for genital herpes, among every other bad thing in the world.


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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 11:37:39 AM »
Unemployment falls to 9 pct., nearly 2-year low
Unemployment rate falls to 9 pct., lowest since April 2009

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Unemployment-falls-to-90-pct-apf-1708751437.html?x=0&.v=3



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In this Feb. 1, 2011 photo, unemployed Jorge Garcia waits for work at the Day Worker Center of Mountain View in Mountain View, Calif. The unemployment rate dropped sharply last month to 9 percent, the lowest level in nearly two years. But the economy generated only 36,000 net new jobs, the fewest in four months.(AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)
Christopher S. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer, On Friday February 4, 2011, 1:02 pm




WASHINGTON (AP) -- The unemployment rate is sinking at the fastest pace in half a century because a surprisingly large number of people say they're finding work.

The decline conflicts with a survey of businesses that showed weak job growth last month. But that survey doesn't count the self-employed and likely undercounts the nation's smallest businesses. Also, harsh weather disrupted business payrolls in January.

The unemployment rate dropped sharply last month to 9 percent, based on a government survey that found that more than a half-million people found work. A separate Labor Department survey of company payrolls showed 36,000 net jobs created -- barely a quarter of the number needed to keep pace with population growth.

The government's survey of households, which is used to calculate the unemployment rate, measures the self-employed, farm workers and household employees. Many economists also say the household survey includes more people who work at small companies.

"What we're finding is that there are a lot of folks that are saying that they are starting new businesses or they are self-employed," said Labor Secretary Hilda Solis. "That doesn't always get reflected in the payrolls survey."

The number of people who called themselves self-employed rose by 165,000 to 9.7 million in January, the report said. That's the highest total since last May.

"It is clear that the drop in unemployment reflected more jobs being added, not a drop in the labor force," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight.

Harsh snowstorms last month also affected the payroll survey. They cut into construction employment, which fell by 32,000, the most since May. Transportation and warehousing was also likely affected and fell by 38,000 -- the most in a year.

"The thumbprints of the weather were all over this report," said Neil Dutta, an economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Hiring was suppressed last month and will likely rebound in February, he said. "We know the job market is recovering."

In one bright spot, manufacturing added 49,000 jobs, the most since August 1998. And retailers added 28,000 jobs, the largest number in a year.

The unemployment rate has fallen by eight-tenths of a percentage point in the past two months. That's the steepest two-month drop in nearly 53 years.

But part of that drop has occurred as many of those out of work gave up on their job searches. When unemployed people stop looking for jobs, the government no longer counts them as unemployed.

The number of people who have given up looking rose to 2.8 million last month, from 2.6 million in December. About one million of those workers said they were discouraged. The others stopped looking because they returned to school or for other reasons.

And the participation rate, which is the percentage of the working-age population working or looking for work, fell to a 26-year low of 64.2 percent.

The number of people unemployed fell by more than 600,000 in January to 13.9 million. That's still about double the total that were out of work before the recession began in December 2007.

The January jobs report also includes the government's annual revisions to the employment data, which showed that fewer jobs were created in 2010 than previously thought. All told, about 950,000 net new jobs were added last year, down from a previous estimate of 1.1 million. The economy lost about 8 million jobs in 2008 and 2009.

In the past three months, the economy generated an average of 83,000 net jobs per month. That's not enough to keep up with population growth.

The weakness in the government payroll survey was widespread. Restaurants and hotels cut 2,200 jobs. Governments shed 14,000 positions. And temporary help agencies eliminated 11,000 jobs. Financial services lost 10,000 positions.

Education and health care services, one of the few steady job generators through the downturn, added 13,000 jobs, the fewest in almost two years. Financial services lost 10,000 jobs.

The number of people employed part time, but who would like full-time work, fell sharply to 8.4 million, from 8.9 million in December. When taken together with the people who have given up looking for work, the so-called "underemployment" rate was 16.1 percent. That's down from 16.7 percent the previous month.

Other recent reports show the economy is picking up. Factories are cranking out more goods, retail sales are increasing, and fewer people are applying for unemployment benefits.

Consumers are spending more and businesses are investing in more equipment and machinery. That's expected to lift economic growth to 3.2 percent this year, according to an AP survey of economists, compared to 2.9 percent in 2010.

Mark Hamrick of AP Broadcast contributed to this report.


Are you saying someone is LYING in the american government???
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 11:38:52 AM »
Even Bernie Madoff cant spin these numbers into believability.   

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 01:06:57 PM »
Bump!

Bad report. The media at large is really pumping the hell out of it though. Saying it is a huge gain and a big step in the right direction, blah blah blah.

Lies, all of it. Read the report, look at why it went down and you come to discover that it has nothing to do with job creation.

See, I just did more "analysis" than CNBC has done in 4 years.

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 01:09:29 PM »
Its sad how gullible people are to believe this crappola.   

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 01:12:55 PM »
Its sad how gullible people are to believe this crappola.   

I really don't think the public is buying it.  It's the same split as always....Obama's hardcore supporters might "believe" it, but nobody else does.

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 04:28:45 PM »
The record number of individuals on food stamps also backs up the fact that things are getting better.

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 05:11:47 PM »
According to straw and the other far left freak show - prosperity is only a few million more on food stamps and ue away. 


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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 08:45:33 PM »
Atleast it seems as though they are finally ditching the blame Bush strategy. I wonder what gullable people are still blaming Bush. It is becoming clearer and clearer that this administration inherited an economy that was already passed the panic stage and was poised for a rebound. And they screwed it up.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 10:53:50 AM »
According to straw and the other far left freak show - prosperity is only a few million more on food stamps and ue away. 



Sad to think anyone would ever believe such a thing.

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2011, 01:54:52 PM »
The record number of individuals on food stamps also backs up the fact that things are getting better.

The only thing record numbers of food stamp recipients indicates is that it is way too easy to get food stamps.

There are mexicans here driving brand-new Escalades and paying for groceries with EBT cards. Anyone can get food stamps. I have a friend who has a law degree and is a real-estate broker who gets them, and he has a six-figure income.

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 02:01:03 AM »
The only thing record numbers of food stamp recipients indicates is that it is way too easy to get food stamps.

There are mexicans here driving brand-new Escalades and paying for groceries with EBT cards. Anyone can get food stamps. I have a friend who has a law degree and is a real-estate broker who gets them, and he has a six-figure income.

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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 07:55:03 AM »
Unemployment down to 9.0%? On 36,000 new jobs? hmmmmmmm!
coachisright.com ^ | FEBRUARY 7TH, 2011 | Kevin “Coach” Collins




Last Friday the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) tried to pull a fast one by announcing that although we “gained” just 36,000 jobs our unemployment rate had fallen a full .4 % to 9.0%. This nonsense was countered by a largely underreported release from Gallup which set the unemployment rate at a more believable 9.8%.

How can we possibly believe these people?

The BLS report also told us that contrary to its own previous statements there were actually 150,000 fewer jobs created during 2010 than they had announced there were.

Another admission from the media/Obama cabal is that the 83,000 average increase of new jobs over the last three months is actually not enough to even keep up with population growth from legal immigration.

Obama’s “Open Borders” policy of allowing 125,000 new legal immigrants and uncounted illegal aliens into our country every month is creating at least 42,000 new unemployed American workers every thirty days.

While the understanding of “unemployment” most of us have is a state of being out of work but looking for employment; the BLS can apparently twist things around so those who are so discouraged they no longer even look for work are not counted in official unemployment statistics.

In the “Newspeak” of Obama’s administration if everyone who is “unemployed” became so discouraged they stopped looking for work, it would report the unemployment rate had fallen to 0% and claim credit for “full employment.”

Unemployed for more than six months

The same BLS produced a statistic in December showing 6.1 million people (40% of all unemployed workers) had been out of work for more than six months, the recognized danger sign for an individual’s prospects for eventual re-employment.... more


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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 01:45:15 PM »
U.S. faces $70 billion inflation hit
CNN Fortune ^ | 2/7/2011 | Colin Barr




Rising food and energy prices could deal a $70 billion blow to the economy, but the recovery is likely to limp along anyway.

If the recent run-up in energy and agricultural commodities persists, U.S. consumers will have to shell out $20 billion more for energy and $50 billion more for food this year, Capital Economics estimates.

Among other things, that squeeze on consumer budgets will eat up most of the payroll tax holiday bonus that Americans were supposed to get out of the deal in Congress that extended the Bush tax cuts, at some cost to the deficit. So much for the stimulus bump.


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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 08:47:57 PM »
The only thing record numbers of food stamp recipients indicates is that it is way too easy to get food stamps.

There are mexicans here driving brand-new Escalades and paying for groceries with EBT cards. Anyone can get food stamps. I have a friend who has a law degree and is a real-estate broker who gets them, and he has a six-figure income.

 While I agree there are those that abuse the system it doesnt take away from the fact that at the core, the amount of people that really rely on them is growing at an alarming rate.

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 10:20:45 AM »
While I agree there are those that abuse the system it doesnt take away from the fact that at the core, the amount of people that really rely on them is growing at an alarming rate.

There is nobody, and I mean NOBODY who NEEDS foodstamps. When is the last time you DIDN'T see the person at the store useing the welfare card buying the goodies on the side with cash?

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 10:25:14 AM »
There is nobody, and I mean NOBODY who NEEDS foodstamps. When is the last time you DIDN'T see the person at the store useing the welfare card buying the goodies on the side with cash?

Here where I live you see them buying cigarettes and booze with cash and then buying food with the stamps..... :-\

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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 10:27:14 AM »
Here where I live you see them buying cigarettes and booze with cash and then buying food with the stamps..... :-\

We should have food depots and give these people beans, rice, barley, etc. 

If they don't like it, tough shit.   

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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2011, 10:32:01 AM »
Here where I live you see them buying cigarettes and booze with cash and then buying food with the stamps..... :-\

That's what I mean. I have a buddy who's big joke is that food stamps allow him to spend more on weed.

It's common around here to see mexican sows buying food for the whole herd on welfare cards, then dropping another $XXX on beer and Marlboros, and loading it all into a brand new SUV in the parking lot.

Food stamps, like almost all other social handout programs, are a joke.

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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 10:34:18 AM »
Pelosi tells me that these are massive job creators!  Is she wrong on that? 

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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 10:35:45 AM »
We should have food depots and give these people beans, rice, barley, etc. 

If they don't like it, tough shit.   

YES!!! Makes sense, no?

The poor-people and 'hispanic advocacy' groups have even successfully lobbied in CA to get high end specialty foods and take-out pizzas WIC approved. The local convience store now takes government cards in case a welfare would like to get their energy drinks and corn dogs for free.

End food stamps and create food banks to feed the lazy and immigrants... but that's not what they want.

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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2011, 11:24:39 AM »
YES!!! Makes sense, no?

The poor-people and 'hispanic advocacy' groups have even successfully lobbied in CA to get high end specialty foods and take-out pizzas WIC approved. The local convience store now takes government cards in case a welfare would like to get their energy drinks and corn dogs for free.

End food stamps and create food banks to feed the lazy and immigrants... but that's not what they want.

Exactly.  and not to mention it could end the farmers subsidy bullshit, with them being paid not to grow food.  Just insane.