Happy Birthday Ronald Reagan - our last real President.

[Soul Crusher]

Fam... being raised where i was raised gives me a closer look.. being around the people i was around gave me a view that others didnt. I dont claim to know about a lot.. but crack and its effect, that was something i was very close too.. so its tough to hear someone who is looking from a far... i respect that you think you read something somewhere what happened... but its different

Wait a minute - how old are you Mal? 

[Option D]

Wait a minute - how old are you Mal? 

28 now.. 29 in may

[Soul Crusher]

28 now.. 29 in may

So when this was allegedely all going on you were a toddler right?

[Option D]

So when this was allegedely all going on you were a toddler right?

crack sales in LA were a part of my life.. i was born in 82 and i went to Atl in 2000.. that whole time its been around..the dealers and the users.. please please please dont come on and try to discredit what im saying because of my age.. Like i said.. i personally know Rick Ross.. i personally know Cornell Ward.. i spoke with him twice today....

So if thats where you are going.. can it.. because you have no clue what youre talking about

[pro nitrousADRL]

  

       who are you.. whats your background. introduce yourself..                                                                                                                                            I am a partial business owner in 3 separate businesses. I have traveled this country from top to bottom and east to west for almost 20 years.  And seen first hand how every presidents policies and ideas have influenced communities,  white , black , Asian Mexican, you name it,  rich , poor , middle class all of them.   And i have seen drug infested trailer parks full of white people , just as bad and often as i have seen drug run hoods.  that why I don't really  buy into what you are saying about RR.    RR didn't go into the hoods and make these black people do drugs, they chose to.  Just like nobody went into the drug infested trailer parks and make them do drugs.   I grew up near Chicano park by San Diego, which is strait ghetto and i chose not to do drugs. just like how everyone else makes their own choices

[SAMSON123]

Fam... being raised where i was raised gives me a closer look.. being around the people i was around gave me a view that others didnt. I dont claim to know about a lot.. but crack and its effect, that was something i was very close too.. so its tough to hear someone who is looking from a far... i respect that you think you read something somewhere what happened... but its different

Here is where you need to check your facts. I am not foreign to america ...I just decided not to continue living there. Originally from South Carolina, lived in New York, Philadelphia and Maryland and attended Temple University, so you are not talking to someone who is NOT in the know. You nor anyone else is gonna pull the wool over my eyes. i know all too well just how out of touch american are with their reality...sadly. Many are still clueless about politics/government of their own country, don't know what is happening in their own communities, have not traveled anywhere outside of america and therefore don't know the rest of the world other than what is reported on their TVs and their print media, still believe america is a beacon to the world yet complain furiously about the injustices there. No one expects perfection in their country, but come on.... the grossness and miscarriage of justice from the US government right down to truth about various races, religions, Cultures etc is profoundly ridiculous is america. And those same differences and warped opinions are what will become the race, religious and political war that will soon overtake america. Look at Egypt, Tunisia, Lebanon, Iraq, Oman, Yemen etc etc... It will all soon be in america.

[Option D]

 

       who are you.. whats your background. introduce yourself..                                                                                                                                            I am a partial business owner in 3 separate businesses. I have traveled this country from top to bottom and east to west for almost 20 years.  And seen first hand how every presidents policies and ideas have influenced communities,  white , black , Asian Mexican, you name it,  rich , poor , middle class all of them.   And i have seen drug infested trailer parks full of white people , just as bad and often as i have seen drug run hoods.  that why I don't really  buy into what you are saying about RR.    RR didn't go into the hoods and make these black people do drugs, they chose to.  Just like nobody went into the drug infested trailer parks and make them do drugs.   I grew up near Chicano park by San Diego, which is strait ghetto and i chose not to do drugs. just like how everyone else makes their own choices

I can dig it.. i like to know who im talking to

[Option D]

So when this was allegedely all going on you were a toddler right?

Webb's reporting generated fierce controversy, and the San Jose Mercury News backed away from the story, effectively ending Webb's career as a mainstream media journalist. In 2004, Webb was found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head, which the coroner's office judged a suicide. Though he was criticized and outcast from the mainstream journalism community, his reportage was eventually vindicated as many of his findings have since been validated: since Webb's death, both the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune have defended his "Dark Alliance" series. Renowned journalist and former Webb colleague Al Giordano states that "the CIA’s internal investigation by Inspector General Frederick Hitz vindicated much of Gary’s reporting" and observes that despite the campaign against Webb, "the government eventually admitted to more than Gary had initially reported" over the years.

so before you talk crazy... read up

[pro nitrousADRL]

No one expects perfection in their country, but come on.... the grossness and miscarriage of justice from the US government right down to truth about various races, religions, Cultures etc is profoundly ridiculous is america. And those same differences and warped opinions are what will become the race, religious and political war that will soon overtake america. Look at Egypt, Tunisia, Lebanon, Iraq, Oman, Yemen etc etc... It will all soon be in america.

Rarely do I agree with sma but i think this is spot on. And also many of the people in this country that bitch and complain about every fucking thing under the sun, should really spend some time outside of America.

[pro nitrousADRL]

I can dig it.. i like to know who im talking to

my name is James bro!!  Good to meet you.

[Soul Crusher]

Webb's reporting generated fierce controversy, and the San Jose Mercury News backed away from the story, effectively ending Webb's career as a mainstream media journalist. In 2004, Webb was found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head, which the coroner's office judged a suicide. Though he was criticized and outcast from the mainstream journalism community, his reportage was eventually vindicated as many of his findings have since been validated: since Webb's death, both the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune have defended his "Dark Alliance" series. Renowned journalist and former Webb colleague Al Giordano states that "the CIA’s internal investigation by Inspector General Frederick Hitz vindicated much of Gary’s reporting" and observes that despite the campaign against Webb, "the government eventually admitted to more than Gary had initially reported" over the years.

so before you talk crazy... read up

Link andsources?

[Option D]

my name is James bro!!  Good to meet you.

You too bro.. Malcolm is my name.. but i go by Option D round these here parts.. you dont want to know why

[Fury]

Here is where you need to check your facts. I am not foreign to america ...I just decided not to continue living there. Originally from South Carolina, lived in New York, Philadelphia and Maryland and attended Temple University, so you are not talking to someone who is NOT in the know. You nor anyone else is gonna pull the wool over my eyes. i know all too well just how out of touch american are with their reality...sadly. Many are still clueless about politics/government of their own country, don't know what is happening in their own communities, have not traveled anywhere outside of america and therefore don't know the rest of the world other than what is reported on their TVs and their print media, still believe america is a beacon to the world yet complain furiously about the injustices there. No one expects perfection in their country, but come on.... the grossness and miscarriage of justice from the US government right down to truth about various races, religions, Cultures etc is profoundly ridiculous is america. And those same differences and warped opinions are what will become the race, religious and political war that will soon overtake america. Look at Egypt, Tunisia, Lebanon, Iraq, Oman, Yemen etc etc... It will all soon be in america.

You've been caught out on so many lies here that anything you say is immediately rendered as bullshit. Don't blame anyone but yourself. You getting caught out on most of the trash lies that you post and then your refusal to debate anything after being called out on them is why you're a joke on here.

You're no American. And you're definitely not college educated, either.

Mal's running circles around you in this thread....par the course for any thread you open that suckhole of yours in.

[Option D]

Link andsources?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

Statement of CIA Inspector General to The House Committee On Intelligence - March 16, 1998
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/CIA_Inspector_General_Frederick_P._Hitz

LA times article
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/18/opinion/oe-schou18
The LA Times piece criticizes its own unfair portrayal of Webb -- "we dropped the ball" -- and notes that "spurred on by Webb’s story,

the CIA conducted an internal investigation that acknowledged in March 1998 that the agency had covered up Contra drug trafficking for more than a decade" and concludes that "History will tell if Webb receives the credit he’s due for prodding the CIA to acknowledge its shameful collaboration with drug dealers. Meanwhile, the journalistic establishment is only beginning to recognize that the controversy over “Dark Alliance” had more to do with poor editing than bad reporting [on Webb's part]".[14]

[Soul Crusher]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

Statement of CIA Inspector General to The House Committee On Intelligence - March 16, 1998
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/CIA_Inspector_General_Frederick_P._Hitz

LA times article
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/18/opinion/oe-schou18
The LA Times piece criticizes its own unfair portrayal of Webb -- "we dropped the ball" -- and notes that "spurred on by Webb’s story,

the CIA conducted an internal investigation that acknowledged in March 1998 that the agency had covered up Contra drug trafficking for more than a decade" and concludes that "History will tell if Webb receives the credit he’s due for prodding the CIA to acknowledge its shameful collaboration with drug dealers. Meanwhile, the journalistic establishment is only beginning to recognize that the controversy over “Dark Alliance” had more to do with poor editing than bad reporting [on Webb's part]".[14]

Sorry - you have to do better than that.   Show me NYT, WAPO, WSJ or something like that.   Wikipedia is far from Gospel.     

[pro nitrousADRL]

So what is it called now when our president knows and has reports everyday that there are more drugs being traffic ed into this country than ever before from the south, and he does nothing except gives the OK for Mexican trucks to go across the boarder unchecked?

[Option D]

Sorry - you have to do better than that.   Show me NYT, WAPO, WSJ or something like that.   Wikipedia is far from Gospel.     

One is from the LA times.. and one is the actual transcripts from the Investegation..
3.^ a b U.S. Senate. Committee on Foreign Relations. Drugs, Law Enforcement, and Foreign Policy. (S. Rpt.100-165). Washington: Government Printing Office, 1988. [1]PDF (9.47 MiB) (9.5MB)

Published on Thursday, January 6, 2005 by the Chicago Tribune  
Dangers of Questioning Government Actions  
by Don Wycliff
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0106-34.htm

[Soul Crusher]

So what is it called now when our president knows and has reports everyday that there are more drugs being traffic ed into this country than ever before from the south, and he does nothing except gives the OK for Mexican trucks to go across the boarder unchecked?

Its called your racist and wing nut if you point that pout. 

[Option D]

Its called your racist and wing nut if you point that pout. 

so now you can go ahead and get some reading done on and and form an educated opinion.. dont just disregard it because you want to challenge me on a topic..
Unlike you.. i wait till shit has been researched and confirmed before i just spouting shit..

[Soul Crusher]

so now you can go ahead and get some reading done on and and form an educated opinion.. dont just disregard it because you want to challenge me on a topic..
Unlike you.. i wait till shit has been researched and confirmed before i just spouting shit..

No, I am looking in to this, but common dreams is not a credible source at all.   Like I said, WAPO looked in to this and claims the so called evidence is flimsy at best.     

[SAMSON123]

[bears]

anyone watching HBO?  They are absolutely crucifying Reagan.   

[Soul Crusher]

He won 49 states for a reason.

[240 is Back]

He won 49 states for a reason.

his competition wasn't exactly stellar either.

[whork25]

It's a stupid argument. Poor people with no work ethic and no brains become addicted to drugs at a higher rate than everyone else. In black areas with lots of poor people (kind of a redundant characterization) crack cocaine is the order of the day. In rural white areas with lots of poor people, meth is king. In both cases, addicts will steal, kill and endanger the lives of everyone in the community for a fix. Making this a racial issue is a cop out so blacks can blame Ronald Regan for the ineptitude of the proud Nubian people.

See, many blacks are also of the same mindset (shared by Neo-Cons and castrated liberals which is interesting) that "Aint no poppy field up in Harlem, aint no coca leaves in da ghetto". So the argument goes that if people in America stop using drugs, the drug business becomes less lucrative and poor people will stop selling drugs. Neo-cons make that idiotic argument with respect to drug users indirectly funding terrorism. Liberal filth makes the same argument about Mexico. "Oh Mexico would be a Utopia if it werent for greedy Americans taking drugs!"
All of these arguments are hogwash. It's human nature to want to feel good and take drugs. Everywhere in the world people get high. Even in countries where drug trafficking a few bags of weed is a death sentence, people find a way to get high. You will only eliminate recreational drug use by eliminating humanity and  eliminating the monetary system.  
Addiction may in fact be a disease, but there are physical addictions ( heroin) and pscyhological addictions (cocaine). There are levels of addiction and different factors which increase the likelihood of becoming addicted. Either way, it all starts with choice and it all ends with willpower.

Nice post