The Big 5 - Term by Dr. McGuff

[dj181]

Is a term used by Dr. McGuff and they are as follows:

1. Some kind of Squat or Leg Press
2. Some kind of Bench Press (pushing in the horizontal plane)
3. Some kind of Overhead Press (pushing in the vertical plane)
4. Some kind of Row (pulling in the horizontal plane)
5. Some kind of Chin/Pulldown (pulling in the vertical plane). Discuss

[JasonH]

Some kind of curl?

[mass243]

Some kind of calf raise ?

[wes]

Also add in...............

Skullcrushers
Deadlifts
Some kind of incline press


End of stupid thread

[Grape Ape]

Some kind of curl?

An isolation movement for a show muscle wouldn't make a big five list.

[kiwiol]

10 posts that could possibly be made in this thread:



10. "I will discuss it with your mom tonight" - Master Blaster

9. "Seriously, can't we just STFU about this already" - JNN or Groink

8. "I found pushups help with energy when u drink hydrogen peroxide mixed with paint thinner but meat is bad so just kale greens and molasses in the mornin on empt stomach and do 200 pushups followed by falcon punches listening to Jethro Tull to attain epic leans and attract hoes" - Johnny Falcon

7. "Dats true Falcon ma man but ya gots to do da weights son remember A Jones said progressive overload is where it's at, as far as clean diet ROFL but keep da protein to under 32 gm per day and you'll get to da sub 7 like God said West > Bird - dj181

6. "I overload your mom" - JimmyJam or JNN

5. "exercises don't matter as long asyou train haevy, remmeber strong muscles = big muscles  " - tbombz

4. Random post by Tito24 that I can't predict or mimic

3. "I agree with the overhead press, because Nasser used to do them and that's how he unofficially beat Dorian Yates 3 times (at least)", followed by a couple of pics of Nasser - Bigbobs

2. "Great pics, Bobs. You can tell Nasser was truly a champion etc etc" - The_swami

1. "Dats fine, but wot yu peeps tink bouts da protein? Do you need more dan 32 g a day? West > Bird" - dj181

[Mr Nobody]

10 posts that could possibly be made in this thread:



10. "I will discuss it with your mom tonight" - Master Blaster

9. "Seriously, can't we just STFU about this already" - JNN or Groink

8. "I found pushups help with energy when u drink hydrogen peroxide mixed with paint thinner but meat is bad so just kale greens and molasses in the mornin on empt stomach and do 200 pushups followed by falcon punches listening to Jethro Tull to attain epic leans and attract hoes" - Johnny Falcon

7. "Dats true Falcon ma man but you gots to do da weights son remember A Jones said progressive overload is where it's at, as far as clean diet ROFL but keep da protein to under 32 gm per day and you'll get to da sub 7 like God said West > Bird - dj181

6. "I overload your mom" - JimmyJam or JNN

5. "exercises don't matter as long asyou train haevy, remmeber strong muscles = big muscles  " - tbombz

4. Random post by Tito24 that I can't predict or mimic

3. "I agree with the overhead press, because Nasser used to do them and that's how he unofficially beat Dorian Yates 3 times (at least)", followed by a couple of pics of Nasser - Bigbobs

2. "Great pics, Bobs. You can tell Nasser was truly a champion etc etc" - The_swami

1. "Dats fine, but wot yu peeps tink bouts da protein? Do you need more dan 32 g a day? West > Bird" - dj181

LOL spot on #4 is the most important on the list.

[Hulkotron]

10 posts that could possibly be made in this thread:



10. "I will discuss it with your mom tonight" - Master Blaster

9. "Seriously, can't we just STFU about this already" - JNN or Groink

8. "I found pushups help with energy when u drink hydrogen peroxide mixed with paint thinner but meat is bad so just kale greens and molasses in the mornin on empt stomach and do 200 pushups followed by falcon punches listening to Jethro Tull to attain epic leans and attract hoes" - Johnny Falcon

7. "Dats true Falcon ma man but ya gots to do da weights son remember A Jones said progressive overload is where it's at, as far as clean diet ROFL but keep da protein to under 32 gm per day and you'll get to da sub 7 like God said West > Bird - dj181

6. "I overload your mom" - JimmyJam or JNN

5. "exercises don't matter as long asyou train haevy, remmeber strong muscles = big muscles   " - tbombz

4. Random post by Tito24 that I can't predict or mimic

3. "I agree with the overhead press, because Nasser used to do them and that's how he unofficially beat Dorian Yates 3 times (at least)", followed by a couple of pics of Nasser - Bigbobs

2. "Great pics, Bobs. You can tell Nasser was truly a champion etc etc" - The_swami

1. "Dats fine, but wot yu peeps tink bouts da protein? Do you need more dan 32 g a day? West > Bird" - dj181

Haha.

You can just post this as the first reply in every thread and substantially reduce the flotsam around here.


Better question: If you could only ever do one lift for the rest of your life (e.g. you have murdered your Getbig posting rival and have to go to jail and can bring one luxury item), what would it be?  I say barbell squats b/c you can look pretty jacked just doing pushups/pullups/unweighted calf raises/jack-off/etc. but your legs will always be sticks without iron assistance.

[biff]

"pick things up and put them down"

[#1 Klaus fan]

An isolation movement for a show muscle wouldn't make a big five list.

Believe it or not, bicep and abs are some of the most important muscles in everyday life. Ask strongmen who carry stuff.

[dj181]

ROFL! Awesome one kiwi ma man So wot would che have to add into da mix? And as far as the Big 5 is considered, I'd say that any kind of overhead press isn't necessary, since the bp is the upper body  squat.

[TacoBell]

Your mom took on my big five when she got fisted

[Mr Nobody]

Sometype of direct arm exercises drop the overhead press, especially if your arms are a weak point.

[kiwiol]

ROFL! Awesome one kiwi ma man So wot would che have to add into da mix? And as far as the Big 5 is considered, I'd say that any kind of overhead press isn't necessary, since the bp is the upper body  squat.

Che is unpredictable, lol

[Grape Ape]

Believe it or not, bicep and abs are some of the most important muscles in everyday life. Ask strongmen who carry stuff.

Abs I believe.  But a lot of guys who strength train at my gym hardly train biceps, if at all.

[dj181]

According to Louie Simmons of The Westside Barbell Club, and the home of multiple World Powerlifting Champs, biceps are a useless muscle in the sport of powerlifting. And as far as calves go, they contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to major sporting activites, including ALL forms of running and jumping.

[BB]

Biceps are important in Powerlifting because of the stabilizing effect during bench(especially wider grip) and during deadlift. In Strongman, they're used a lot in in the tire flip, etc.... A few years back, when it was in vogue to drop direct bicep work, you saw quite a few torn biceps. It's swung back to just do a few sets, here and there among most of them, usually straight bar or hammer curls.

[dj181]

Is that what Louie Simmons says nowadays? He said that stuff about the biceps back in the late 90s.

[BB]

It's more just the general thinking in powerlifting and strongman circles. Simmons's is a bit similar, just do enough to prevent imbalances, etc....

[Cleanest Natural]

“I am a huge bloat due to sodium not dbol“


kiwiol

[Hulkotron]

And as far as calves go, they contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to major sporting activites, including ALL forms of running and jumping.

What is your basis for this statement?

[kiwiol]

“I am a huge bloat due to sodium not dbol“


kiwiol

Thanks for thinking about me so much, bro

[dr.chimps]

Thanks for thinking about me so much, bro

Wait'll he starts 3 simultaneous threads on you, then you'll know you've really taken up some headspace. 

[kiwiol]

Wait'll he starts 3 simultaneous threads on you, then you'll know you've really taken up some headspace. 

Haha I honestly don't understand the sudden interest/hard-on, with the name change and everything I haven't even posted a pic or talked about my physique in years.

[dj181]

When one runs and/or jumps the bulk of the power comes from the hip extenders. Olympic lifters have some of the best vertical leaps of all sportsmen, and their lifts train the hip extenders, and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for ankle flexion/extension. Take one guy and have him train only on hip extension (leg press/squat) and take another guy and have him only train on "calf work" and I guaren-goddamn-tee that the squat/leg press guy will pwn the shit out of the calf guy when tested for vertical jump increase.