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Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« on: February 06, 2011, 01:15:46 AM »
This is Sparta.

Sorry Belfraco better luck next time.

I'm sick and tired of religious people saying... " I need to pray... I need to pray"

F*ck religion... success comes from hard work... not from religion.

You must pay your dues first.
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Re: This is Sparta.
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 01:30:04 AM »
QFT

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Re: This is Sparta.
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 06:28:09 AM »
Sorry Belfraco better luck next time.




 I'm sick and tired of religious people saying... " I need to pray... I need to pray"

 F*ck religion... success comes from hard work... not from religion.

 You must pay your dues first.

Totally inappropriate language for someone from a 90% Roman Catholic Nation.   On a more refreshing note...Erika has recovered from her fracture and has returned to the Mermaids.

 

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Re: This is Sparta.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 06:30:48 AM »
Sorry Belfraco better luck next time.




 I'm sick and tired of religious people saying... " I need to pray... I need to pray"

 F*ck religion... success comes from hard work... not from religion.

 You must pay your dues first.

Hell yeah , Silva would have kicked Jesus too

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Re: This is Sparta.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 02:33:20 PM »
Totally inappropriate language for someone from a 90% Roman Catholic Nation.   On a more refreshing note...Erika has recovered from her fracture and has returned to the Mermaids.

 

 Religion is a nice thing.

 To make this bb related the guy in the 4 pic... has a huge shoulder.

 http://reportage.co.uk/features/antogo-the-sacred-dogon-fishing-ritual/

 Mali, and the village of Bamba in the north of Dogon country, where, since the beginning, that is to say since the Dogon arrived in this magic land in Mali long ago, a sacred fishing ritual is practiced, known as “Antogo”. A small yet very powerful lake rests just beneath Bamba. Antogo is celebrated only once a year, and only on this day is fishing allowed on the lake, it is strictly prohibited on any other day of the year.

Saturday, market day in Bamba. It’s 15:00 p.m, on May 2nd. The temperature is nudging 50 degrees, the sun burning in the sky. To coincide with the sixth month of the dry season the council of wise men of Bamba get together in order to fix the exact date of the Antogo ritual; for the first three market days of the month large wooden sticks are placed in the middle of the lake, signalling that the ritual is getting closer. The 3 sticks function as a signal for the whole region, warning that the date is coming soon.

In the past the whole area of Bamba was covered with green forests and bush, and the lake, the water of which was considered sacred and populated by good spirits, offered tons of fish, which contributed to local food requirements. The passage of time, climate change and parallel processes, including the massive desertification of the region, has meant that the area has transformed itself from a green zone into an arid, dry, eroded, infertile, rocky area, characterized today by huge problems in terms of water access and availability. This small yet eternal lake, apparently capable of resisting climate evolutions, represents a precious resource still today, above all from an identity and cultural point of view.

The ritual seems to contradict one of the distinguishing aspects of the Dogon culture, that is, the antipathy towards water, which they prefer to avoid when they can, confining and structuring their living around rocks, hills and semi-deserted areas, far away from the feared river guy.

On the day of Antogo hundreds of Dogon come from all parts of the country to Bamba’s lake. Around the lake we notice 3 bigger groups of people, formed by the most respected and ancient families of various Dogon villages. The largest group is the one of Bamba, which includes people from 13 smaller villages around. Each of these groups, in a collective mystical silence, pronounce ritualistic formulas, together with the names of the most important families; finally, the word comes to the wise of Bamba, who, when done speaking, mark the beginning of the ritual itself.

A silent black frame gets drawn all around the lake, made of little kids, young and old men, carrying hand made tools to catch the fish. Women cannot participate to the ritual, getting close to the lake is strictly prohibited; in fact, in line with other aspects of the complex Dogon culture, which prohibits women from taking part in any of the ritualistic elements of life. Women are considered impure by definition, because of the menstrual cycle.

All of a sudden hundreds of Dogon jump wildly into the lake, in order to capture as many fish as possible in any way they can. Fish are then placed in a leather bag that they communally carry. The dance continues happily albeit chaotically, with everyone covered in mud is used to draw on the faces and bodies of the participants, the intensity of the moment is immense, overwhelming.

Just about 30 minutes later a gunshot marks the end of the ritual. All fish captured will be put together and given to the oldest man of Bamba, who will ensure proper distribution among all villages.

Hell yeah , Silva would have kicked Jesus too

 Lol. ;D
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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 03:06:36 PM »
I'm sick and tired of religious people saying... " I need to pray... I need to pray". F*ck religion... success comes from hard work... not from religion. You must pay your dues first.

Your opinion.  I have heard from many others that after their hard work, discipline, training, dieting and more - that a little faith has helped the get over that special edge over others that have none.   Sometimes it works.  It may not for you, but it can for others.


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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 04:40:02 PM »
Your opinion.

No. Prayer has been scientifically proven to have no effect. If you want to disprove the experiment that was done, please do so.(*)

I have heard from many others that after their hard work, discipline, training, dieting and more - that a little faith has helped the get over that special edge over others that have none.

How do they know? How good are people analyzing their decisions or world views? How neutral can people be? Do they know what placebo effect is? Take a look at the (*).

Sometimes it works.

Anything works sometimes. I hope as an adult you realise this fact.

It may not for you, but it can for others.

Take a look at (*).

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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 04:42:16 PM »
 I like how the OP tied together religion with a gay fight where some monkey is getting kicked in the neck.

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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 04:59:01 PM »
Your opinion.  I have heard from many others that after their hard work, discipline, training, dieting and more - that a little faith has helped the get over that special edge over others that have none.   Sometimes it works.  It may not for you, but it can for others.



 First of all... who are you? never saw your name before. ;D

 I heard this joke so many times and in a different countries too... let me see if i can translate it.

 Once upon a time...There was this guy... he used to go to the church and knelled in front of his favorite Saint... he will  start to praying asking to be rich asking to won in a lottery.

 Everyday, day after day,year after year... finally after a long long time... let's say 80 years.

 But then!!! one day...one morning day... a really beautiful morning sunny  day.. it was 40 degrees Celsius. I think it was in Hawaii. Pelius was his name ;D... anyway.

 The Saint was not in a good mood that morning...( to make this bb related the Saint was running 10000 grams of test... halo ,dbol,tren and sus... plus recreational drugs you know, like the typical bodybuilder).

 The Saint was like.... f*ck  God damn it I can't do this any longer.

 So the Saint told him: My son please buy a ticket.

 One more thing.

 People wants to use religion as a well fare.

 If you need/want something... you must work and do it yourself... you should focus on yourself...focus on your training... focus on your work.


 So what you're saying is:

  That must people will obtain comfort/hope/focus, praying right?
 
Praying is nothing but... asking for something... how to do that?  repeating to yourself  a bunch of words and sentences over and over again.

 
 

Enough with this : God please give me this,God please give me that.

 

 And please don't you ever EVER again change the title of my thread. "this is Sparta " was better. ;D will this give me my first time out?

 GR4C1E J1U-J1TSU.

 

 
 
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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 05:00:50 PM »
Your opinion.  I have heard from many others that after their hard work, discipline, training, dieting and more - that a little faith has helped the get over that special edge over others that have none.   Sometimes it works.  It may not for you, but it can for others.



I've found that religion doesn't work for me after many years of experimenting with religion...However, if it works for others that is great.

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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 05:41:07 PM »
 When religion "works" for someone, it usually just means they deluded themselves into believing some complete nonsense.

 Delusion, in exchange for a feeling of warmth and security.

 That's about it

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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 05:52:29 PM »
When religion "works" for someone, it usually just means they deluded themselves into believing some complete nonsense.

 Delusion, in exchange for a feeling of warmth and security.

 That's about it

placebo effect

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Re: Success comes from hard work... not from religion
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 07:30:58 PM »
If true than I am SOL....

I work about 8 hrs a week ( on a busy week)

And I am religious