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Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you are a god.
~ Jean Rostand

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
~ Stephen Roberts

Man is certainly stark mad: he cannot make a worm, yet he will make gods by the dozen.
~ Michel de Montaigne

Which is it, is man one of God’s blunders or is God one of man’s?
~ Nietzsche

We, on our side, are praying to Him to give us victory, because we believe we are right; but those on the other side pray to Him, too, for victory, believing they are right. What must He think of us?
~ Abraham Lincoln

Invisible Pink Unicorns are beings of awesome mystical power. We know this because they manage to be invisible and pink at the same time. Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can’t see them.
~ Steve Eley

All great truths begin as blasphemies.
~ George Bernard Shaw

Religion, comprises a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find in an isolated form nowhere else but in amentia, in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion.
~ Sigmund Freud

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.
~ Abraham Lincoln

A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
~ Albert Einstein

If you talk to God, you are praying. If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.
~ Thomas Szasz

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
~ Napoleon

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious, then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
~ Albert Einstein

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
~ Susan B. Anthony

One man’s magic is another man’s engineering. Supernatural is a null word.
~ Robert Heinlein

We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.
~ Gene Roddenberry

As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents.
~ George Orwell

If child molestation is actually your concern, how come we don’t see Bradley tanks knocking down Catholic churches?
~ Bill Hicks

Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith … we need believing people.
~ Adolf Hitler

I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
~ Mohandas Gandhi

If god created us in his image we have certainly returned the compliment.
~ Voltaire

The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.
~ Thomas Paine

I have seldom met an intelligent person whose views were not narrowed and distorted by religion.
~ James Buchanan

When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.
~ Jack Gurney – “The Ruling Class”

Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?
~ Ron Patterson

Science has done more for the development of western civilization in one hundred years than Christianity did in eighteen hundred years.
~ Jeff Burroughs

I read about an Eskimo hunter who asked the local missionary priest, ‘If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?’ ‘No,’ said the priest, ‘not if you did not know.’ ‘Then why,’ asked the Eskimo earnestly, ‘did you tell me?’
~ Annie Dillard

I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.
~ Adolf Hitler

The most heinous and the cruelest crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives.
~ Mohandas Gandhi

Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
~ Douglas Adams

It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
~ Thomas Jefferson

All Bibles are man-made.
~ Thomas Edison

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own; a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms…
~ Albert Einstein

In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson

A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.
~ Carl Sagan

When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? It is because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.
~ J. Krishnamurthi

Man is the religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion, several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat, if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven.
~ Mark Twain

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
~ Galileo Galilei

So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.
~ Bertrand Russel

I have examined all of the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our superstitions of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all founded on fables and mythology. Christianity has made one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites.
~ Thomas Jefferson

If you believe in the existence of fairies at the bottom of the garden you are deemed fit for the bin. If you believe in parthenogenesis, ascension, transubstantiation and all the rest of it, you are deemed fit to govern the country.
~ Jonathan Meades

I know of no crime that has not been defended by the church, in one form or other. The church is not a pioneer; it accepts a new truth, last of all, and only when denial has become useless.
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

The good Christian should beware of mathematicians and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell.
~Saint Augustine

Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn’t there. Theologians can persuade themselves of anything.
~ Robert Heinlein

There was a time when I believed in the story and the scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it, just as I believed there was a Devil. Suddenly the light broke through to me and I saw a silly story, and each generation nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty. Why do people go on pretending about this Christianity?
~ H. G. Wells

The state has not the right to leave every man free to profess and embrace whatever religion he may desire.
~ Pope Pius IX

To date, despite the efforts of millions of true believers to support this myth, there is no more evidence for the Judeo-Christian god than any of the gods on Mount Olympus.
~ Joseph Daleiden

You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.
~ Bertrand Russell

Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?
~ Epicurus

To use the term blind faith, is to use an adjective needlessly.
~ Julian Ruck

The establishment of Christianity arrested the normal development of the physical sciences for over fifteen hundred years.
~ Andrew Dickson White

The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.
~ Albert Einstein

Anyone who has two shirts when someone has none is not a Christian.
~ Lenny Bruce

The church tries to save sinners, but science seeks to stop their manufacture.
~ Elbert Hubbard

I can’t embrace a male god who has persecuted female sexuality throughout the ages; and that persecution still goes on today, all over the world.
~ Amanda Donohoe

If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

If you pray for rain long enough, it eventually does fall. If you pray for floodwaters to abate, they eventually do. The same happens in the absence of prayers.
~ Steve Allen

Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion, rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western science.
~ Gary Zukav

Religion is the end of love and honesty, the beginning of confusion; faith is a colorful hope or fear, the origin of folly.
~ Tao Te Ching

The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.
~ Sir R. F. Burton

All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
~ Thomas Paine

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion, the religion which based on experience, which refuses dogma.
~ Albert Einstein

I do not believe that any type of religion should ever be introduced into the public schools of the United States.
~ Thomas Edison

If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad.
~ Aleister Crowley

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.
~ Steven Weinberg

Mythology is what we call someone else’s religion.
~ Joseph Campbell

Beware the man of one book.
~ Saint Thomas Aquinas
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Re: religion
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 10:51:45 PM »
I love fighers that go on about "if its gods will then bla bla bla bla" and ends up getting knocked the fuck out..

I guess "god" then hates them? lol.

On the first day man created god.   - swede

(kidding)

or belfort finding god after his sister got raped and murdered and left in a dirty old alley. I guess god hated him then and again after he found god and got ko'd in his first fight after being reborn..

and still they dont get it...

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Re: religion
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 10:55:03 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 11:04:10 PM »
i like these threads man, keep them up.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 11:05:44 PM »
i like these threads man, keep them up.

thanx..will do...even if it pisses john off
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Re: religion
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 11:09:26 PM »
big L Dawg = shit stirrer.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 11:10:55 PM »
big L Dawg = shit stirrer.
some true shit in there even if u dont agree with some of it.

read what ghandi says for example:
I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 11:14:40 PM »
some true shit in there even if u dont agree with some of it.

read what ghandi says for example:
I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

I actually agree with that. When you start putting church doctrine before the word of God, you have problems.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 11:37:18 PM »
Science has done more for the development of western civilization in one hundred years than Christianity did in eighteen hundred years.
~ Jeff Burroughs

science has done nothing but lower the status of civilation from people of the earth to people that use the earth.


The most heinous and the cruelest crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives.
~ Mohandas Gandhi

 ;)

Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
~ Douglas Adams

where did that beauty come from? andwhy in the world do you appreciate something totally inconsequential to your survival and animalistic pleasure level

It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
~ Thomas Jefferson

this is in defense of religious freedom

All Bibles are man-made.
~ Thomas Edison

agreed!

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own; a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms…
~ Albert Einstein

einstein again not leting his ego get out of the way.

In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson

the people who put so much faith in written scripture tend to look more at tradition for the answers, instead of within themselves. and thus they sometimes fail to see the truth about certain issues and resist change. its sad that God has to be represented on earth by the religious groups who have

A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.
~ Carl Sagan

When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? It is because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.
~ J. Krishnamurthi

eh, half true

Man is the religious animal. He is the only religious animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion, several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat, if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven.
~ Mark Twain

a testament to the powerful idea of god in the human mind, a statement about the strength of our collective conviction on the issue.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
~ Galileo Galilei

So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.
~ Bertrand Russel

I have examined all of the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our superstitions of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all founded on fables and mythology. Christianity has made one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites.
~ Thomas Jefferson

If you believe in the existence of fairies at the bottom of the garden you are deemed fit for the bin. If you believe in parthenogenesis, ascension, transubstantiation and all the rest of it, you are deemed fit to govern the country.
~ Jonathan Meades

I know of no crime that has not been defended by the church, in one form or other. The church is not a pioneer; it accepts a new truth, last of all, and only when denial has become useless.
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

The good Christian should beware of mathematicians and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell.
~Saint Augustine

Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn’t there. Theologians can persuade themselves of anything.
~ Robert Heinlein

There was a time when I believed in the story and the scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it, just as I believed there was a Devil. Suddenly the light broke through to me and I saw a silly story, and each generation nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty. Why do people go on pretending about this Christianity?
~ H. G. Wells

The state has not the right to leave every man free to profess and embrace whatever religion he may desire.
~ Pope Pius IX

To date, despite the efforts of millions of true believers to support this myth, there is no more evidence for the Judeo-Christian god than any of the gods on Mount Olympus.
~ Joseph Daleiden

You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.
~ Bertrand Russell

Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?
~ Epicurus

To use the term blind faith, is to use an adjective needlessly.
~ Julian Ruck

The establishment of Christianity arrested the normal development of the physical sciences for over fifteen hundred years.
~ Andrew Dickson White

The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.
~ Albert Einstein

Anyone who has two shirts when someone has none is not a Christian.
~ Lenny Bruce

The church tries to save sinners, but science seeks to stop their manufacture.
~ Elbert Hubbard

I can’t embrace a male god who has persecuted female sexuality throughout the ages; and that persecution still goes on today, all over the world.
~ Amanda Donohoe

If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

If you pray for rain long enough, it eventually does fall. If you pray for floodwaters to abate, they eventually do. The same happens in the absence of prayers.
~ Steve Allen

Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion, rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western science.
~ Gary Zukav

Religion is the end of love and honesty, the beginning of confusion; faith is a colorful hope or fear, the origin of folly.
~ Tao Te Ching

The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.
~ Sir R. F. Burton

All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
~ Thomas Paine

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion, the religion which based on experience, which refuses dogma.
~ Albert Einstein

I do not believe that any type of religion should ever be introduced into the public schools of the United States.
~ Thomas Edison

If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad.
~ Aleister Crowley

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.
~ Steven Weinberg

Mythology is what we call someone else’s religion.
~ Joseph Campbell

Beware the man of one book.
~ Saint Thomas Aquinas

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2011, 11:47:07 PM »
I bear witness that there is no dong but tdongz!  :o
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 11:53:55 PM »
"So, you really believe in talking snakes?  Right on."  
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2011, 11:59:08 PM »
"So, you really believe in talking snakes?  Right on."  
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 11:59:20 PM »
yep...they actually believe a man lived in the belly of a fish...

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Re: religion
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 12:06:36 AM »
i like these threads man, keep them up.

Here's one for you then, fuck islam.  Fuck mohammed.  Fuck that noise.

I notice that outside the slight mention of muslims by "J. Krishnamurthi", the OP failed to diss the biggest canard of all, i.e., islam. 

Shall I keep this up?   ;D

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 12:10:53 AM »
Here's one for you then, fuck islam.  Fuck mohammed.  Fuck that noise.

I notice that outside the slight mention of muslims by "J. Krishnamurthi", the OP failed to diss the biggest canard of all, i.e., islam. 

Shall I keep this up?   ;D
no responsible person says the above things.

ghandi's quote applies in this case as well, just replace christians with muslims. It's the same shit, different era. We're just too short sighted and prone to quick judgements by design to see the forrest for the trees.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 12:19:27 AM »
no responsible person says the above things.

ghandi's quote applies in this case as well, just replace christians with muslims. It's the same shit, different era. We're just too short sighted and prone to quick judgements by design to see the forrest for the trees.

WTF does this mean, "No responsible person says the above things"?  You know, if Jesus (you know, that guy that is referred to as "the Prince of Peace"?) did all the murderous shit that ol' Mo' did, no one in their right mind would follow him. 

I follow no one, ergo I'm free to speak the truth about everyone.  As for responsible people, who is responsible for the terrorist bullshit that permeates the civilized world, hmmmmmmm?  It sure ain't those that truly follow the Christ.   Christians, real ones, would never kill for their faith, but they will die for it.  Contrast that with islam. Oh yeah...they'll die for their faith while blowing themselves and any innocents around them to kingdom come.  Fuck that noise.  So again, contrast Christianity with islam.

If you dare to be honest.  Like I said before, if I chose to believe in anything or anyone it would be in the goodness of Jesus and never the evil of Mohammed.  It's not hard to tell the truth, but for some people its difficult to swallow. 

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2011, 12:36:29 AM »
WTF does this mean, "No responsible person says the above things"?  You know, if Jesus (you know, that guy that is referred to as "the Prince of Peace"?) did all the murderous shit that ol' Mo' did, no one in their right mind would follow him. 

I follow no one, ergo I'm free to speak the truth about everyone.  As for responsible people, who is responsible for the terrorist bullshit that permeates the civilized world, hmmmmmmm?  It sure ain't those that truly follow the Christ.   Christians, real ones, would never kill for their faith, but they will die for it.  Contrast that with islam. Oh yeah...they'll die for their faith while blowing themselves and any innocents around them to kingdom come.  Fuck that noise.  So again, contrast Christianity with islam.

If you dare to be honest.  Like I said before, if I chose to believe in anything or anyone it would be in the goodness of Jesus and never the evil of Mohammed.  It's not hard to tell the truth, but for some people its difficult to swallow. 


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Re: religion
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 12:39:37 AM »
 Great quotes. Very good collection.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 12:53:57 AM »
if I chose to believe in anything or anyone it would be in the goodness of Jesus
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 01:19:45 AM »
I'm gonna save those, some were hilarious dude!

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 01:44:26 AM »
Religion is humankinds cancer - just imagine what we could have archived already without religious wars and sectarian killings.

You shall not kill ha fucking laughable, if you check the history of any organized religion you will pretty fucking soon find out that killing was never
a problem, especially for the christian and the Islam.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 01:57:42 AM »
I honest to god believe there was once a man which we call now Jesus, if he was the true son of God any god is highly unlicky at least to me.
However I truly believe that he was maybe a good person who saw a chance to change life for millions for the better.

But...

Never ever fucking ever forget that it was the CHURCH!!!! who changed his words so it fit their agenda, never ever fucking forget what the church stands for.
Its an evil incredible greedy and unfortunately very powerful organization.

Fuckem

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 02:19:27 AM »
muslim scum

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2011, 09:28:40 AM »
WTF does this mean, "No responsible person says the above things"?  You know, if Jesus (you know, that guy that is referred to as "the Prince of Peace"?) did all the murderous shit that ol' Mo' did, no one in their right mind would follow him. 

I follow no one, ergo I'm free to speak the truth about everyone.  As for responsible people, who is responsible for the terrorist bullshit that permeates the civilized world, hmmmmmmm?  It sure ain't those that truly follow the Christ.   Christians, real ones, would never kill for their faith, but they will die for it.  Contrast that with islam. Oh yeah...they'll die for their faith while blowing themselves and any innocents around them to kingdom come.  Fuck that noise.  So again, contrast Christianity with islam.

If you dare to be honest.  Like I said before, if I chose to believe in anything or anyone it would be in the goodness of Jesus and never the evil of Mohammed.  It's not hard to tell the truth, but for some people its difficult to swallow. 

There is a huge difference between murder and waging a just war. There is just no way you're reading an authoritative source for this information and still spewing this absolute horse shit.

As for your statement about christians, the same applies to muslims. No real muslim murders, although he CAN kill for a just cause. It's a fucked up situation with the terrorism thing, but in cultures so heavily infused with religion everything in public life carries the language of religion. Our own culture in the west is different, so we have trouble understanding others and make quick judgements that lack any real depth: so we automatically assume that violence comes from islam, 'they' all hate us, so on and on... this has been discussed by promiment political commentators and scholars so its nothing new.  The world isn't as simple as our minds make it out to be.

So don't bring your broad judgements here and claim to be speaking the truth... at best you are picking and chosing what you want to know/believe.
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