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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2011, 12:24:02 PM »
Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and Arnold Schwarzenegger disagree with you.
fucking fantastic for you, you named three successful people...   WOW...  Now come up with the odds that some kid from Kansas wanting fame will be the next Sean Connery?

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2011, 12:31:16 PM »
fucking fantastic for you, you named three successful people...   WOW...  Now come up with the odds that some kid from Kansas wanting fame will be the next Sean Connery?

Arnold would grealty have benefitted from some math classes. 

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2011, 12:33:36 PM »
fucking fantastic for you, you named three successful people...   WOW...  Now come up with the odds that some kid from Kansas wanting fame will be the next Sean Connery?
Sometimes people are just fine with running their local theatre or performing stage plays in regional settings.  You fail when you assume everyone has the same goals or desires.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2011, 12:37:08 PM »
Arnold would grealty have benefitted from some math classes. 
I'm an Arnold fan and think he's done pretty good, but I'm not from Cali so I can't say that for everyone lol...  He did have the odds stacked against him going into office.

But, you gotta like Arnold...  Come on, fuck you if you don't lol...

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2011, 12:39:05 PM »
Arnold would grealty have benefitted from some math classes. 

I'd say Arnies math is fine, judging by his personal net worth...... I think it's the state of Cali that has a problem....haha

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2011, 12:41:21 PM »
Sometimes people are just fine with running their local theatre or performing stage plays in regional settings.  You fail when you assume everyone has the same goals or desires.
you can get those jobs out of high school, you don't need to spend 40,000 to 100,000 or easily more to land those spots ::)

Oh, by the way asswipe, those LOCAL THEATRE SPOTS even if you land them on a semi regular basis won't pay your way fool.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2011, 12:41:47 PM »
I'm an Arnold fan and think he's done pretty good, but I'm not from Cali so I can't say that for everyone lol...  He did have the odds stacked against him going into office.

But, you gotta like Arnold...  Come on, fuck you if you don't lol...

I liked Commando & Predator.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2011, 12:56:07 PM »
I liked Commando & Predator.
I love that part in Commando where they slam into the light poll and Arnold is instantly like, "are you alright?"

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2011, 01:24:47 PM »
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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2011, 01:30:42 PM »
Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and Arnold Schwarzenegger disagree with you.

A few exceptions, far from the norm.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2011, 01:37:54 PM »
A few exceptions, far from the norm.
Again, you are acting as if you know everyone`s goal and desire.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2011, 01:41:34 PM »
Again, you are acting as if you know everyone`s goal and desire.
you're going to hit loco with that line when you couldn't even reply to me after giving the same line lol...

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2011, 01:46:39 PM »
try again TA, without crossing the line...

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2011, 01:48:56 PM »
try again TA, without crossing the line...
I didn`t cross the line.  I, of all people, have earned the right to joke about Keith Jones or use him as a reference. Our battles were legendary and he would not have minded one bit for me writing this line to you:

"Replying to you is as pointless as cooking dinner for Keith Jones."

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2011, 01:50:43 PM »
Again, you are acting as if you know everyone`s goal and desire.

What's that supposed to mean?  Everyone's goal and desire first of all should be to be able to work for their own food, heat and shelter, to not be a burden to society and to their own family.   That should be everyone's first career goal and desire.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2011, 01:51:38 PM »
What's that supposed to mean?  Everyone's goal and desire first of all should be to be able to work for their own food, heat and shelter, to not be a burden to society and to their own family.   That should be everyone's first career goal and desire.
How are you in any position to judge any of those things accurately?

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2011, 01:53:42 PM »
How are you in any position to judge any of those things accurately?

LOL...you've got to be kidding me.  You're a socialist, aren't you?  You want people to get a job running their local theater while they live in their parent's basement and/or collect from a government social program, don't you?

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2011, 01:57:53 PM »
LOL...you've got to be kidding me.  You're a socialist, aren't you?  You want people to get a job running their local theater while they live in their parent's basement and/or collect from a government social program, don't you?
I don`t really care what someone does if they have the ability to do it.  Its none of my business.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2011, 02:08:49 PM »
I don`t really care what someone does if they have the ability to do it.  Its none of my business.
wish you would use that philosophy in the rest of your life and STFU about shit that has nothing to do with you

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2011, 02:57:38 PM »
Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and Arnold Schwarzenegger disagree with you.

The average person has a better chance of becoming a professional athlete than they do of becoming the next big movie star.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2011, 03:18:23 PM »
The average person has a better chance of becoming a professional athlete than they do of becoming the next big movie star.
What if their goal is to put on Hamlet and Taming of the Shrew at the Shakespeare Festival?

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2011, 03:18:40 PM »
LOL...you've got to be kidding me.  You're a socialist, aren't you?  You want people to get a job running their local theater while they live in their parent's basement and/or collect from a government social program, don't you?

Yea.... this falls in line with the tools that say "I don't need to make a lot of money, I just want to do what I love...", then have to live on assistance from others and have student loans until the're 60.

I have a journalist friend who falls into this category. Makes 26K a year and thinks society owes him a free ride because he makes so little. It's sooo not fair he studied a 'jock degree' and drank his way thru school while others were actually learning something useful...

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2011, 03:19:57 PM »
What if their goal is to put on Hamlet and Taming of the Shrew at the Shakespeare Festival?

Does one deserve tens of thousands of dollars worth of education to do this?  Does this really add any real value to society?

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2011, 03:39:38 PM »
Does one deserve tens of thousands of dollars worth of education to do this?  Does this really add any real value to society?
The real question you should be asking is "Why does it cost tens of thousands of dollars worth of education to this?".  That is the real travesty.   And yes, the arts do add value to society.

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Re: American colleges: Education worth the price?
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2011, 03:40:33 PM »
What if their goal is to put on Hamlet and Taming of the Shrew at the Shakespeare Festival?

Some of the best actors in Hollywood and theater have little to no formal training. You either got it or you don't (hence why there are so many failed actors out there).