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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2011, 11:09:41 PM »
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Hey Steve, serious question, in the 202 class who do you think is the competitor to beat in terms of future competitions and who's your favorite? Raymond, Henry, Mcquay???

Real schmoe question, thanks ;D

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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »
Hey Steve, serious question, in the 202 class who do you think is the competitor to beat in terms of future competitions and who's your favorite? Raymond, Henry, Mcquay???

Real schmoe question, thanks ;D
Seriously I would be the future of 202 but I don't have money even to compete...and to improve...man, it seems impossible for me...and I'm so disappointed because of that fact...

My favorite: English (almost unbeatable in the 202)

Coolest guy: Raymond

Future: Lewis

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2011, 11:27:31 PM »
Seriously I would be the future of 202 but I don't have money even to compete...and to improve...man, it seems impossible for me...and I'm so disappointed because of that fact...

My favorite: English (almost unbeatable in the 202)

Coolest guy: Raymond

Future: Lewis

I agree on your behalf and sorry to hear about that. Your physique is definitely what the 202 class should be about. IMO, you Flex Lewis and Mcquay have a great look ( no homo)

No offense to English and Raymond. English should be in the open class and jose's structure is just plain weird. The way things are going it looks like there is no point in a 202 class cause they again, seem to favor mass monsters.

Anyways, good luck with you and hope to see you on stage again.

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2011, 12:08:55 AM »
He's not on GH there

what is this nonsense? ,,fella is on gh ,,all 3 are on gh ,,ofcourse denis is ,,but also roley ,,you infantiles need to start to understand that hgh does not mean you look like mutant unles you up the dose to very high doses ,,he present size of fellas who use 6-10 iu gh ,,

this got to stop this idea that if bodybuild is not too big he is not on gh ,,gh is the brain ,,the BRAIN OF BODYBUILD,,testosterone the heart gh the brain,,no gh no bodybuild!,,

if you think that lee haney was not on gh ....and thats why roley look nto on gh you are severely mistaken because both were on gh and one of them is still on ,,actually lee haney is probably on too still

gh is somethign that if you start you rarely stop if you bodybuild and if you been to it unles you are very poor or just dont care anymore which some past bodybuild dont care....but they also look like mustaf and sons,,,

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2011, 12:47:41 AM »
what is this nonsense? ,,fella is on gh ,,all 3 are on gh ,,ofcourse denis is ,,but also roley ,,you infantiles need to start to understand that hgh does not mean you look like mutant unles you up the dose to very high doses ,,he present size of fellas who use 6-10 iu gh ,,

this got to stop this idea that if bodybuild is not too big he is not on gh ,,gh is the brain ,,the BRAIN OF BODYBUILD,,testosterone the heart gh the brain,,no gh no bodybuild!,,

if you think that lee haney was not on gh ....and thats why roley look nto on gh you are severely mistaken because both were on gh and one of them is still on ,,actually lee haney is probably on too still

gh is somethign that if you start you rarely stop if you bodybuild and if you been to it unles you are very poor or just dont care anymore which some past bodybuild dont care....but they also look like mustaf and sons,,,

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I agree, but it depends on the person too...genetics (mainly), work ethic, diet, other gear using...etc....

In 2003 I wasn't on GH...I won a few shows and then I realized the many guys at the same shows already using GH...4-8 IUs...and they looked like shit or just looking like anybody else...I was 20 I didn't know too many things about all these things.

So I think it's mainly depends on the person.

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2011, 01:51:16 AM »
the diff i that at 20 21 up to 23-24 gh is not always must depending how much gh your body produce,,most sucesful bodybuild produce high level natural gh at those ages,,still many in those ages are on syntetic gh to get even bigger quality muscle ,,when you over 30 you have no chance in competetive bodybuild or anybodybuilding with out gh,,between 25-30 you better have syntetic gh if you want to get anywhere in bodybuild now day,,and under 25 it a matter of how much natural gh your body produce ,,if highest end then maybe you can pull with out for couple years...but rest assure that those competetor against you at age 21 many of them are on gh and they may produce also high natural gh at early 20s but! no natural production of gh can stand against 6-8 iu a day of legit syntetic gh,,when i talk high natural gh production i mean 2-3 iu a day for the absolut max fellas at ages 18-23...they are not many and the sucesful ones can be seen in the forms of the arnolds ...not many around

gh is extremly important,,there are some misconceptions to the use of gh which gh15 will talk about when have more time,,the bodybuild need to know when to use it and how,,they hire guru but in the past the bodybuild himself knew how to do it and was his own doc ...now day they hire morons to tell them stuff that the morons dont kknow nothing about but base it on shit they did with other bodybuild rather than shit they did on themselves,,

the idea behind gh is to get quality physiqe larger and leaner ,,actual lean muscle go high ..bodyfat go down ,,3 dimention come into play ,,thats a reuslt ,,everytime result,,of gh usage


you fellas need to understand that

testosterona = thickness/swole

gh = cuts 3 dimentional definition

trenbolona =   freak factor,, depending on genetic respond,,/nasty factor ,,any genetic respond,,


mutant = thickness + cuts + freak/nasty factor  at higher doses


 example you may be thick...but! you wont be as wide with out the use of gh,,
example you may be cut and defnied with some thickness....but if you dotn use enough long ester enanthat....you will not be as wide as someone who is on long ester enantat ,,yes even if both of you on gh,, may be close but not quite as wide in the delt department,,


you need to have the 3 ingredients  mentioned above inorder to have a chance at becoming a mutant,,

testosterona
trenbolona
gh


insulin is something i dont like to mention but insulin will get you to the next level of mutant and it is the level where you become HEAVY mutant,,thats when waist start to enlrge and you become what you see now day as profesional bodybuild,,you can be mutant with out insulin or with very low doses too ,,mutant doesnt have to do much with direct numbers,,you can be mutant at 220-230lb too,,it is a specific  lean muscle mass with low enough bodyfat with 3 dimentional aspect that make you look much bigger  than you are,,it is at its prime when you stil have v taper and the great shoulder to waist ratios,,  when bodybuild is pre insulin and it fades when the insulin doses grow due to loss of v taper...due to loss of lines etc etc,,

arnold was a mutant,,
dorian was a mutant,,
kevin was a mutant,,

each of them was mutant that kept bodybuild where it should be ,,thats why looked much better than jason ,,much better than phil,,much better than any bodybuild now days,, but today its not possible to compete hgih level  in the field with out the insulin so its catch 22

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2011, 02:00:31 AM »
I agree bro! Great post!  ;)

Two questions...

So Arnold and maybe Sergio were mutants even without GH...?

Which bodybuilder do you consider as the "first mutant of the GH era"? Somebody like Tom Platz...or somebody even earlier...?

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2011, 02:00:48 AM »
2005 IFBB World Championship...

Dennis Heavyweight and Overall Winner
Roelly Light-Heavyweight-Did not place
Quincy Winklaar Light-Middleweight 14th

LOL

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2011, 02:03:36 AM »
LOL

Brutal Winklar-brothers  -  genetics run in a family  :D



This is what I hate in pro bodybuilding...no money and/or no knowledge = no result. It's not about the training...and dedication.

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2011, 02:05:52 AM »
I agree bro! Great post!  ;)

Two questions...

So Arnold and maybe Sergio were mutants even without GH...?

Which bodybuilder do you consider as the "first mutant of the GH era"? Somebody like Tom Platz...or somebody even earlier...?

arnold,,he used gh ,,first one to do so that i know of among the big names,,again he did not use it on regular basis ,,arnold could have been the white ron colman and mayeb even surpas him ,,but gh at his prime late prime,,was used liek testosterona in steve reeves days,,no one knew shit they tried what they could get their hand on ,,here and there experiemental stages ,,from ussr and testosterona from germany

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2011, 02:44:39 AM »
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/04bc593ad9dcf2ec88dd/roelly-and-quincy-winklaar-posing-team-andro-infopoint-20feb
Everybody upped there dose. :)


Looks like a regular Friday night at the Winklaar house! Haha!  ;D

They look great BTW!!!

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2011, 04:10:46 AM »
GH15

you say trenbolona, what type, how do you suggest one uses it?

what are some bad sides you say from trenbolona  use?

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2011, 04:13:08 AM »
GH15

you say trenbolona, what type, how do you suggest one uses it?

what are some bad sides you say from trenbolona  use?

gh15 suggests the Trenbolona Acetate, keeps blood levels more stable ;)
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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2011, 09:26:45 AM »
i miss the 2010 gh15 "sing with me all together now" stack...

testosterona, trenbolona, equipona and masterona.

2011, things are much simpler...testosterona, trenbolona, gh-ona  :)

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2011, 10:20:37 AM »
I agree, but it depends on the person too...genetics (mainly), work ethic, diet, other gear using...etc....

In 2003 I wasn't on GH...I won a few shows and then I realized the many guys at the same shows already using GH...4-8 IUs...and they looked like shit or just looking like anybody else...I was 20 I didn't know too many things about all these things.

So I think it's mainly depends on the person.

great physique for 20, how much have you gained since then?

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2011, 11:14:15 AM »
great physique for 20, how much have you gained since then?
25-26 pounds in contest weight...which is not enough in 7 years...  :-\

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2011, 11:33:10 AM »
25-26 pounds in contest weight...which is not enough in 7 years...  :-\

What was your cycle back then Steve? You must've been on the sauce pretty early?

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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2011, 11:38:22 AM »
What was your cycle back then Steve? You must've been on the sauce pretty early?
I was using almost the same dosage this year which maybe explain why I'm still not a mutant...

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2011, 11:54:38 AM »
Roelly and his brother were not on GH there... that size and BF is really easily attainable with carribean-black genetics and some gear.

Roelly only blew up when he went to Rotterdam, Holland, and had access to the fine european pharmaceuticals and legit pharma GH, thus the the mutation. His brother who stayed in the little Caribbean island is still a little Caribbean bodybuilder and very small.


Steve Namat, try to find access to a kigtropin supplier, they really are the best GH coming out of china now. They are so far the cheapest actual legitimate pharmaceutical-grade GH out now. You're only other options are pharmaceutical european and american GH, which are not even an option unless you have a looooott of cash-flow coming in and don't care about your future outside of bodybuilding.

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« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2011, 12:04:45 PM »
Steve Namat, try to find access to a kigtropin supplier, they really are the best GH coming out of china now. They are so far the cheapest actual legitimate pharmaceutical-grade GH out now. You're only other options are pharmaceutical european and american GH, which are not even an option unless you have a looooott of cash-flow coming in and don't care about your future outside of bodybuilding.

Kigtropin is nothing but re-labeled Hygetropin ::)

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2011, 03:33:58 PM »




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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2011, 04:32:10 PM »
the pics of Rolly @ the worlds, pre slin adn GH

thats what liars  Chris Faildo, Ade Rai, Kiyoshu Moody etc etc looks like

idiots whoi think these liars are natural are so gullible

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2011, 05:20:50 PM »
what is this nonsense? ,,fella is on gh ,,all 3 are on gh ,,ofcourse denis is ,,but also roley ,,you infantiles need to start to understand that hgh does not mean you look like mutant unles you up the dose to very high doses ,,he present size of fellas who use 6-10 iu gh ,,

this got to stop this idea that if bodybuild is not too big he is not on gh ,,gh is the brain ,,the BRAIN OF BODYBUILD,,testosterone the heart gh the brain,,no gh no bodybuild!,,

if you think that lee haney was not on gh ....and thats why roley look nto on gh you are severely mistaken because both were on gh and one of them is still on ,,actually lee haney is probably on too still

gh is somethign that if you start you rarely stop if you bodybuild and if you been to it unles you are very poor or just dont care anymore which some past bodybuild dont care....but they also look like mustaf and sons,,,

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Look at the first pic of 2 brothers roelly and quincy-what do you think is the reason roelly exploaded and quincy did not??-maybe quincy doesn`t have the money to afford the GH in high doses??he can train,he can afford the food and the aas,but is the real GH that much high in price to be not affordable??2 brothers have the similar muscle shape-and another question,if they are brothers do you think they have the same genetics (genetic response to chemicals for growing)???

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Re: 2 guys who have upped the dosage in the past few years!
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2011, 05:22:29 PM »
Seriously I would be the future of 202 but I don't have money even to compete...and to improve...man, it seems impossible for me...and I'm so disappointed because of that fact...

My favorite: English (almost unbeatable in the 202)

Coolest guy: Raymond

Future: Lewis
You looked great back then!what`s up with your carrier right now,do you plan any show soon or you don`t have the money??