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Healthcare Reform Law Requires New IRS Army Of 1,054
By Paul Bedard
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/02/15/healthcare-reform-law-requires-new-irs-army-of-1054_print.html

Posted: February 15, 2011


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The Internal Revenue Service says it will need an battalion of 1,054 new auditors and staffers and new facilities at a cost to taxpayers of more than $359 million in fiscal 2012 just to watch over the initial implementation of President Obama's healthcare reforms. Among the new corps will be 81 workers assigned to make sure tanning salons pay a new 10 percent excise tax. Their cost: $11.5 million.

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"The ACA [Affordable Care Act] will require additional resources to build new IT systems; modify existing tax processing systems; provide taxpayer outreach and assistance services; make enhancements to notices, collections, and case management systems to address and resolve taxpayer issues timely and accurately; and conduct focused examinations to encourage compliance," said the newly released IRS budget.

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In its request, the IRS explained that the tax changes associated with health reform are huge. "Implementation of the Affordable Care Act of 2010 presents a major challenge to the IRS. ACA represents the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years, with more than 40 provisions that amend the tax laws."

Unsaid: The requests are just the beginning, since the new healthcare program is evolving and won't be fully implemented until about 2014.

The detailed IRS budget documents spell out exactly what most of the new workforce will be doing. For example, some 81 will be tasked just to handle the tax reporting of 25,000 tanning salons. They face a new 10 percent excise tax on indoor tanning services. Another 76 will be assigned to make sure businesses engaged in making and imported drugs pay their new fee which is expected to deliver $2.8 billion to the Treasury in 2012 and 2013. The new healthcare corps will also require new facilities and computers.

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The document gives the GOP a bright target to hit if they plan to make good on promises to defund the president's healthcare plan.

Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso, who's become a point man in the budget battle, told Whispers, "The president's irresponsible budget empowers the IRS to begin to audit Americans' healthcare. As the IRS says, Obamacare represents the largest set of tax changes in more than 20 years. Adding hundreds of new jobs and millions of dollars to the IRS isn't going to make care better or more available for anyone. I will continue to fight to repeal and replace Obamacare with patient centered reforms that help the private sector—not the IRS—create more jobs."


The Treasury Department, which oversees the IRS said: "The Affordable Care Act includes important tax credits that help small businesses provide health insurance for their employees and partially cover the cost of health insurance for Americans who do not have access to affordable coverage, and Treasury's Budget includes funding for the IRS to administer these tax provisions. The vast majority of this funding will be used to develop information technology systems and other support to implement the law and help taxpayers claim these important credits."

The IRS document also noted that other tax law changes related to the stimulus require more workers, estimated at about 215 new employees.

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It's not all tough news for taxpayers. The IRS regularly pays for its enforcement team and more when they collect taxes that companies and individuals try to skip out on. According to the budget documents, the IRS plans to get a big return on investment worth about $279 million by fiscal 2014.

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I don't understand this bullshit..

Wouldn't it make more sense to go after companies like "google" who paid less than 2% taxes..

Wouldn't a flat tax make more sense?

Haha, the IRS isn't accounting for Salons that shut down cause these bullshit mandates

The IRS regularly pays for its enforcement team and more when they collect taxes that companies and individuals try to skip out on. According to the budget documents, the IRS plans to get a big return on investment worth about $279 million by fiscal 2014.

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In its request, the IRS explained that the tax changes associated with health reform are huge. "Implementation of the Affordable Care Act of 2010 presents a major challenge to the IRS. ACA represents the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years, with more than 40 provisions that amend the tax laws."


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Just fucking brilliant - forced health care by threat of IRS punishment. 

Good job you idiots who support this admn.   ::)  ::)

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I don't understand this bullshit..

Wouldn't it make more sense to go after companies like "google" who paid less than 2% taxes..

Wouldn't a flat tax make more sense?

No!   Not to the communist left that is.   A flat tax means they lose control and cant sociall engineer society to their greedy, evil, meddling, and sociopathic desires.   

Obama does not want to go after google - he wants a boot on the thrat of every American to control them.

This is all about control and nothing else. 

BTW - Fuck you whoever still supports Obama. At this point you are just as bad and disgusting as he is.   

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Team Dildo loves the idea that an IRS Agent will be in every house to enforce this communist traitors' agenda.   


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http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/story/2011-10-13/federal-tanning-tax-shortfall/50754314/1


Underdone: Tanning tax revenue falls short of estimates

By Kevin McCoy, USA TODAYUpdated 2h 36m ago Comments 30 Reprints & PermissionsThe IRS got red-faced trying to collect the new tanning tax, burning a hole in estimates on how much the levy would bring in to federal coffers, a new report said Thursday.


By Rob Engelhardt, for USA TODAY



A new federal tax on indoor tanning services isn't bringing in as much revenue as hoped, a report says.
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A new federal tax on indoor tanning services isn't bringing in as much revenue as hoped, a report says.

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration said the IRS developed outreach plans to notify tanning salons the 10% federal tax would be due on ultraviolet light services paid for as of July 1, 2010.

But, while the agency also updated tax forms and tax return processing systems to prepare for the new levy, the IRS had difficulty determining the actual number and contacts for businesses required to collect the new tax from customers.

MORE: IRS Q-and-A on indoor tanning tax

Using an April 2010 Indoor Tanning Association estimate, the IRS initially projected the tax would be due quarterly from roughly 25,000 stand-alone tanning salons, plus spas, health clubs and beauty parlors.

But the inspector general report found that actual tax returns filed for the first three quarters through March 31 averaged just above 10,300.

Tanning tax receipts for that nine-month period totaled $54.4 million, the report found. That was below projections by the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, which had estimated the tax would raise $50 million in the last three months of fiscal year 2010 and $200 million for the full 2011 fiscal year.

The report blamed the problem on the IRS' apparent use of incomplete information in its effort to identify taxpayers covered by the levy. It also said the IRS should have acted faster to collect. By the time notices were issued, tax returns had been due for three quarters.

"The IRS quickly implemented the tanning tax under a tight deadline," said J. Russell George, who heads the inspector general's office. "Since this was a brand new tax imposed on a group of businesses and taxpayers with no previous experience with excise taxes, the IRS should have done more to inform taxpayers of their filing responsibilities and bring them into compliance in a timely manner."

The inspector general's office recommended the IRS analyze the data sources it used for the tax, including records with incomplete address information, to determine whether some tanning businesses weren't notified about the levy. The agency should also determine whether other data sources are needed to identify tanning salons.

Agreeing with the recommendations, Faris Fink, head of the IRS Small Business/Self-Employed Division, wrote in a Sept. 7 response that the tax agency has "compared the list of taxpayers who have already filed returns with the broader list that we have collected, and have sent explanatory notices to businesses who have not yet filed."

"Once this analysis is complete, we will have a better sense of how many of the businesses who have not yet filed are actually subject to this new excise tax," Fink said.









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your story says the tax raised 54.4 million in the first 9 months of 2011

and it cost 11.5 million for the 81 IRS agents

what point is it you're trying to make again?

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your story says the tax raised 54.4 million in the first 9 months of 2011

and it cost 11.5 million for the 81 IRS agents

what point is it you're trying to make again?

LMFAO - no wonder you support obama.   i guess its called "Liberal Math"   

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Tanning tax receipts for that nine-month period totaled $54.4 million, the report found. That was below projections by the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, which had estimated the tax would raise $50 million in the last three months of fiscal year 2010 and $200 million for the full 2011 fiscal year.

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LMFAO - no wonder you support obama.   i guess its called "Liberal Math"   

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Tanning tax receipts for that nine-month period totaled $54.4 million, the report found. That was below projections by the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, which had estimated the tax would raise $50 million in the last three months of fiscal year 2010 and $200 million for the full 2011 fiscal year.


just because estimated revenue fell short you choose to ignore the fact that it cost 11 million to implement and it's got revenue thru the first nine months of 50 million

do you need me to finish the math for you?

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just because estimated revenue fell short you choose to ignore the fact that it cost 11 million to implement and it's got revenue thru the first nine months of 50 million

do you need me to finish the math for you?

Yes, please do.  This should be a real hoot.   

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Yes, please do.  This should be a real hoot.   

50 million in the first 9 months (which woudl be ~ 66 million over 12 months)  minus 11.5 million for the new agents = ????

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50 million in the first 9 months (which woudl be ~ 66 million over 12 months)  minus 11.5 million for the new agents = ????

and how much did they anticipate collecting?  And what was that assumption used to do? 

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and how much did they anticipate collecting?  And what was that assumption used to do?  

they anticipaged 200 million but it's only been the frist 9 months of the first year

do you think this shortfall of revenue of ~ 133 million in the first year is going to "collapse the system"



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they anticipaged 200 million but it's only been the frist 9 months of the first year

do you think this shortfall of revenue of ~ 133 million in the first year is going to "collapse the system"




Guess what they did with the anticipated "revenue"? ? ? ?


Made phoney bogus promises that simply can;t be met.   Its a ponzi scam, just like this entire Admn.   

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Guess what they did with the anticipated "revenue"? ? ? ?
Made phoney bogus promises that simply can;t be met.   Its a ponzi scam, just like this entire Admn.   

have you read anything about the first year implementation of this meager tax

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/story/2011-10-13/federal-tanning-tax-shortfall/50754314/1

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The report blamed the problem on the IRS' apparent use of incomplete information in its effort to identify taxpayers covered by the levy. It also said the IRS should have acted faster to collect. By the time notices were issued, tax returns had been due for three quarters.

"The IRS quickly implemented the tanning tax under a tight deadline," said J. Russell George, who heads the inspector general's office. "Since this was a brand new tax imposed on a group of businesses and taxpayers with no previous experience with excise taxes, the IRS should have done more to inform taxpayers of their filing responsibilities and bring them into compliance in a timely manner."

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50 million in the first 9 months (which woudl be ~ 66 million over 12 months)  minus 11.5 million for the new agents = ????



You don't subtract.  You add.

The government took 11.5 million from the taxpayer so that they could take an additional 50 million from the taxpayer (so far).

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How clever is Obama to trick us into collapsing the nation via tanning salons.
You've got to give him credit for figuring out a way to generate a meager tax on our obsession with tanning that brings in revenue that's 6 times the cost of implementation.  At this rate it will take 1000 years for us to collapse and no one will even remember that it was Obama who did it

Just think, he could have taken the easy way out and refused to bail out the banks and auto manufacturer and not done a stimulus pakcage (which would have actually pleased the teabaggers) and he could have refused to negotiate on the debt ceiling.   If he had just done that we would have been collapsed by now and he could have taken off the last year of his first term to just smoke week and play video games

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How clever is Obama to trick us into collapsing the nation via tanning salons.
You've got to give him credit for figuring out a way to generate a meager tax on our obsession with tanning that brings in revenue that's 6 times the cost of implementation.  At this rate it will take 1000 years for us to collapse and no one will even remember that it was Obama who did it

Just think, he could have taken the easy way out and refused to bail out the banks and auto manufacturer and not done a stimulus pakcage (which would have actually pleased the teabaggers) and he could have refused to negotiate on the debt ceiling.   If he had just done that we would have been collapsed by now and he could have taken off the last year of his first term to just smoke week and play video games



Its just one tiny example of the overall Obama agenda - collapse the nation. 

School Loan program - same thing - ponzi scam

ObamaCare - ponzi scam

Jobs bill - ponzi scam



and on and on and on an on. 

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Had Obama erased 1,054 jobs from Americans, there would be a thread about that too!