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US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« on: February 16, 2011, 11:22:25 AM »


The Fast Fix: Another government shutdown?

By Chris Cillizza – Wed Feb 16, 9:07 am ET

Could the federal government be shut down, like it was in the mid-90s, if a deal on the budget can't be reached by March 4th?

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 11:30:45 AM »
We need shut down for a few years IMHO.   The madoffs in DC are simply out of control.     

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 06:03:02 PM »
Government shutdown? GOP, Democrats swap charges



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AP – House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio takes part in a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, …

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent – 34 mins ago

WASHINGTON – In a deepening struggle over spending, Republicans and Democrats swapped charges Thursday over a possible government shutdown when money runs out March 4 for most federal agencies.

"Read my lips: We're going to cut spending," declared House Speaker John Boehner. He pledged that the GOP-controlled House would refuse to approve even a short-term measure at current funding levels to keep the government operating.

The Ohio Republican prefaced his remarks by accusing Democrats of risking a shutdown "rather than to cut spending and to follow the will of the American people." But moments later, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., retorted that Boehner was resorting "to threats of a shutdown without any negotiation."

The sparring occurred as the House labored to complete work on veto-threatened legislation to cut more than $61 billion from the budget year that's more than a third over. That bill also would provide funding to keep the government operating until Sept. 30.

Working through dozens of amendments, the House voted 244-181 in early evening to block the FCC from implementing "network neutrality" regulations. The rules prohibit phone and cable companies from discriminating against Internet content and services, including online calling and Web video services that may compete with their core operations.

With that one bill at the center of a political dispute — the House has repeatedly worked well past midnight on the legislation this week — Boehner chose the moment to open a second front. To underscore the budget-cutting commitment by the 87 conservative new members of his rank and file, he announced that Republicans would move quickly this spring on companion legislation to cut "wasteful mandatory spending" by the federal government.

He provided no details, but party officials said they expected the effort to begin shortly after the House returns from next week's recess.
The current legislation is sweeping in scope, containing cuts to literally hundreds of domestic programs, from education to environmental protection, nutrition and parks.

In addition, it has become a target for first-term conservative Republicans eager to demonstrate their budget-cutting bona fides and for other lawmakers hoping to change the course of government in ways large or small.

Republicans led the way on a 250-177 vote to stop the Environmental Protection Agency from imposing limits on mercury pollution from cement factories. Supporters said the new rules would send American jobs overseas, where air quality standards are more lax or non-existent.

An attempt by Democratic Rep. Barney Frank to increase funding for the Securities and Exchange Commission was turned back, despite arguments that lax enforcement of Wall Street contributed to the financial meltdown of two years ago. The vote was 270-160.
House leaders had originally hoped to complete work on the bill by day's end, but even after long hours in session this week, that appeared increasingly unlikely.

Among the dozens of proposals yet to be voted on was an attempt to block the use of funds to implement the year-old health care law, and a move to prevent the Federal Communications Commission from implementing proposed new regulations known as network neutrality.
At 359 pages, the legislation would eliminate some programs while reducing many more.

Among those targeted for elimination are the Corporation for National and Community Service, which oversees AmeriCorps and Senior Corps and currently has a budget in excess of $1 billion.

Funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting would also be wiped out, at $86 million.

The spending bill bears the strong imprint of the newly elected Republicans, many of whom were backed by tea party supporters and are sworn to reduce deficits.

An attempt by GOP leaders to send a smaller package of spending cuts to the floor was rebuffed last week by the newcomers, who said they would accept nothing less than a measure that met their commitment to the voters last fall. As candidates, they promised to cut Obama's budget request by $100 billion, a figure that translates to $61 billion from current levels.

While passage in the House is assured, the legislation faces a rocky reception in the Democratic-controlled Senate. Democrats there have not yet said what level of cuts, if any, they will accept through Sept. 30. Nor has the White House.

As a result, the expectation is widespread that no final compromise will be reached before the March 4 deadline, leaving lawmakers and the White House to work out a stopgap bill — or perhaps even a series of them — while negotiating over the comprehensive measure.
Boehner's statement that he will accept no short-term bill without spending cuts is in keeping with the mood of his rank and file. At the same time, it underscores a strategic calculation among Republicans that the way to exert maximum pressure on the White House is to demand at least a modest reduction in spending at each opportunity.

At the same time, Boehner has said repeatedly the Republicans do not desire a government shutdown, an experience he has some experience with.

He was a junior member of the GOP leadership in 1995 when then-Speaker Newt Gingrich led Republicans into a confrontation over spending that resulted in twin government shutdowns.

The stalemate ended in a Republican retreat, and helped then-President Bill Clinton resurrect his presidency after sweeping defeats in the 1994 congressional elections.

Boehner's statement that Republicans intend to cut "wasteful mandatory spending" before writing a 2012 budget this spring came as a surprise to some GOP aides.

They said planning was not far along, and offered no details on the overall amount of savings anticipated.

Among the items under consideration for cuts is a prevention and public health fund established under the health care law approved last year. Alexa Marrero, a spokeswoman for the House Energy and Commerce Committee, called it a "massive slush fund" for the Health and Human Services Department.

Last year, the Congressional Budget Office estimated the cost of the program at nearly $13 billion over a decade.
Other possible targets are Medicare and the welfare program, according to aides, but Social Security is not among the programs under scrutiny as part of the effort.

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 06:10:17 PM »
We need the govt to shut down for a lllooonnnnnnggggg time to get our house in order.

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 09:39:43 AM »

Pelosi aide: Shutdown likely
By: Jonathan Allen
February 18, 2011 11:54 AM EST

www.politico.com

 
 
A high-ranking aide to Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told Democratic chiefs of staff that a government shutdown is more likely than not, according to attendees.

Speaking at a regular meeting of the top aides to House Democrats, Pelosi’s floor director, Jerry Hartz, offered up, unprompted, his assessment that the odds favor inaction before the government runs out of money, sources said.

That became the focal point of the meeting, sources said, with the other aides asking only questions about “the possibility of a government shutdown and the logistics” — i.e., what it would mean for their offices and government services — according to one chief of staff who spoke to POLITICO on the condition of anonymity.

The aide said the message of a likely shutdown did not appear geared toward ginning up the staffers for political purposes.

“It was genuine,” the aide said.

One aide, who was not at the meeting, said Hartz’s remarks were misinterpreted. “He was saying what would happen if the worst occurs, which has already been advocated by some Republicans. He wasn’t predicting anything,” that aide said. “Democrats are committed to work responsibly with Republicans to ensure that critical services to our constituents are not cut.”

Yesterday Pelosi told reporters that if there is a government shutdown, responsibility will fall on Republicans’ shoulders.

 

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 09:54:05 AM »
last night, I heard boehnner and GOP had 560 amenments which had to be discussed in order to halt a shutdown.

they did 11 this week.

They want a shutdown, so that's what is going to happen.  Repubs just better PRAY nothing bad happens during that time.  Then they will DEFINITELY get the blame.  If the Repubs shut down the govt, then 5 minutes later the DOW sink or dollar falls, they're getting all the blame, fair or otherwise.

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 09:56:30 AM »
last night, I heard boehnner and GOP had 560 amenments which had to be discussed in order to halt a shutdown.

they did 11 this week.

They want a shutdown, so that's what is going to happen.  Repubs just better PRAY nothing bad happens during that time.  Then they will DEFINITELY get the blame.  If the Repubs shut down the govt, then 5 minutes later the DOW sink or dollar falls, they're getting all the blame, fair or otherwise.

240 - Obama has flat out said he will veto ANY cuts whatsover.   Geithner said yesterday that the budget Obama proposed is "unsustainable" and that he hoped the House GOP would propose somethng better, to which Obama has already said he will veto.   


What does that tell you?   Serious answer please.       

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 09:58:56 AM »
240 - Obama has flat out said he will veto ANY cuts whatsover.   Geithner said yesterday that the budget Obama proposed is "unsustainable" and that he hoped the House GOP would propose somethng better, to which Obama has already said he will veto.   

What does that tell you?   Serious answer please.       

it tells me repubs better say "Well, obama has us by the balls" and get 1.1 trillion in cuts that they can get.

Cause if they let the govt shutdown.... and egypt erupts, the market tanks, any terror attacks, another financial crisis.... anything....

They WILL get the blame for it.  Obama can shrug and say "I kept this boat afloat for 2+ years... you guys come in, shut down the govt, and look what happened....



Right or wrong, moderate voters will blame repubs for it.  They gotta be careful.

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Re: US Government Possible Shut Down Soon?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 02:09:57 PM »
Spending cuts would be great, but a government shutdown would save even more.  I'll take the shutdown.