Frank Zane: unparalleled symetry and proportions

[NarcissisticDeity]

nd for one, along with a ton of others

really? please show me where I said Zane's physique could rival Dexters. and good luck with that one.

I think Zane has a better physique from a personal perspective , but if the two competed Dexter would beat him easily but that's not saying much. in terms of aesthetics and balance and proportion Zane easily beats Dexter but that's about it then there is also the matter of posing & physique presentation which I think Zane can give anyone a run for their money

[NarcissisticDeity]

reeves and grimek, 2 most overrated bbers ever

LMAO @ Reeves being overrated 

[Jaime]

reeves and grimek, 2 most overrated bbers ever

Grimek was rugged, strong apparently, not that aesthetic.

Reeves is a 6'1 Zane with better lines and structure.

[Boost]

My father grew up with Steve Reeves.

Steve had a prosthetic leg but was a master at "hiding his weaknesses"

[Lord of the Roidz]

My father grew up with Steve Reeves.

Steve had a prosthetic leg but was a master at "hiding his weaknesses"

Prosthetic leg? Just when you think this site can't get anymore ridiculous...you get proved wrong.

[Figo]

rugged, better structure, taller, blah, blah

overrated

[maxkane69]

frank couldnt be bigger,,he was 190 -200 at his maximum competing 185,, anything bigger and he would look bloofy ,,take close look at his hands,,his frame,, he was what you call average everything,,with hormones and training he achieved alot moree than many will ever achieve,,these days his size woundt mean shit,,but! if insulin was not introduced into bodybuild....he woudl still be today mr o worthy ,,he had much better physie than jason and 90 percent of top competitorsa today,,

size doesnt mean nothing if it is not conditioned and kept in symetry aka size in the right places,, if you have 50 lb in the midsection like jason have...nthing will helpo you there unless you look like ron colman but jason doesnt look like ron colman so he just win o based on the fact that the other morons behind him are no better as in abusing gh and insulin mainly,,if you can not have 32 inch waist when you hit 220 then any size you put on you is bloofiness,,i dont care how dense you are and how muscular you look ....if you dont have good shoulder to waist ratio you are not bodybuilder you are hormonized addict who bodybuild

take a look at the midsections of frank,,arnold,,serge,, sergio even,,haney,,labrada,,ray,,dexter,,its all tight and small,,take it and compare it to the jokes you see now day on stage and you get the whole bodybuild decline story

frank zane looked amazing,,if you can get to 190 at 4% and keep small waist and not use insulin and insulin gets out of bodybuild....you wil have chance at winning the  big one because anything past 200 on stage for a 5'9 has A LOT TO DO WITH SLIN AND GH ,,gh i good slin is NIGHT MARE FOR BODYBUILD,,the fellas on slin iin the late 2000 have no muscular size it is blown up size that has no solid foundation

gh15 approved

GREAT POST GOD OF HORMONE!

[Tito24]

[Stark]

And none of you fuckers comments on the fact that the guy has "angle" tattooed on his belly 

[kyomu]

Its not the matter of the difference of those physiques of Winkler and Zane. But just Zane know how to pose and other dont.
I even look better than Winkler in this pose, of course,not because of the physique, but its because of knowing how to pose.

[Meso_z]

Prosthetic leg? Just when you think this site can't get anymore ridiculous...you get proved wrong.

ahahahaha WTF

[Jaime]

rugged, better structure, taller, blah, blah

overrated

Grimek was rugged, he didn't have a great structure, i think Zane has Grimek.

Reeves is better than Zane in every way concievable.

[Cleanest Natural]

My father grew up with Steve Reeves.

Steve had a prosthetic leg but was a master at "hiding his weaknesses"

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[Figo]

Grimek was rugged, he didn't have a great structure, i think Zane has Grimek.
Reeves is better than Zane in every way concievable.

reeves was tall, movie star looks, wide shoulders, small waist, very proportionate, great physique, probably the inspiration for other great proportionate physiques like zane, paris, benfatto

but people talk about the guy like his farts didnt smell, he walked on water before he turned it to wine, then parted it... just another bber, also enhanced, btw...
test was available, he used dbol too, and in a musclemag interview he mentions that he made such great gains when he started training, the bigger guys asked him if he was on the juice (meaning steroids), he responded yes he drank oranje juice...

everyone gets their undies all tangled up when anything re reeves thats not p.c. gets mentioned. just because they're from the ironage doesnt mean they were better people, natural, or gods, same shit, different era

[Figo]

[NarcissisticDeity]

reeves was tall, movie star looks, wide shoulders, small waist, very proportionate, great physique, probably the inspiration for other great proportionate physiques like zane, paris, benfatto

but people talk about the guy like his farts didnt smell, he walked on water before he turned it to wine, then parted it... just another bber, also enhanced, btw...
test was available, he used dbol too, and in a musclemag interview he mentions that he made such great gains when he started training, the bigger guys asked him if he was on the juice (meaning steroids), he responded yes he drank oranje juice...

everyone gets their undies all tangled up when anything re reeves thats not p.c. gets mentioned. just because they're from the ironage doesnt mean they were better people, natural, or gods, same shit, different era

lmfao test was ' available ' one mention of testosterone esters doesn't mean it was readily available and it worked , the creator of Dbol used testosterone injections before he created the pill and he abandoned the practice because he yield NO results and we're to believe a layperson had access to testosterone and it was effective years before any recorded use of test in strength athletes , nonsense.   and he used Dbol? Dbol wasn't invented until years after he retired

Reeves walks on water

[Figo]

test was available, yes he did use dbol

"lmao" all you want

[Figo]

[NarcissisticDeity]

test was available, yes he did use dbol

"lmao" all you want

I will at your ignorance     

I love you how post examples and provide proof great job . you BELIEVE test was readily available and for you to claim he did use dbol would mean you know this first hand which is bullshit

you know the timeline of dbol , it was created years AFTER he retired and if you know anything about Reeves after he retired in 1950 he dropped weight for the movies so to claim he used it when it was available makes no sense

[Reeves]

test was available, yes he did use dbol

"lmao" all you want

Prove it....Oh wait!  You can't. 

No offense, but you cannot prove it.  Steve Reeves doesn't remotely look like a doper, not even a doper from the 1960s.  His physique is superior due to hard training, diet and exemplary genetics.  Yup, exemplary genetics.  Unlike the pusillanimous pussbags of today, the ones that morons worship as genetic giants, Reeves had what it took and took that potential and worked hard for what he built.

These ass clowns of the past 30, 40 and nearly 50 years simply took drugs.  Oh to be certain, they trained much harder in the earlier years than they ever do now but that is only because of such "gains" as HGH, synthol and insulin.  Fuck that noise.    There's a reason that in spite of my height and build I chose the screen name "Reeves".

He was the best.  He didn't walk on water, but I'd bet that the water he drank was just that:  water.  Not the Kool Aid that today's worthless chumpions down by the cc.  You can tell the world that Steve Reeves took steroids, but all you're doing is trying to rationalize the shortcomings of those that take drugs.  They are over their heads in the shallow end of the gene pool. 

I do agree with you about Zane.  He was, and still is, great.  Took drugs, but for a doper there are few that can rival him and in terms of physical quality and grace along with his intelligence, none that equal him.  A good man.  Yes, I've met him.

[NarcissisticDeity]

STEVE "HERCULES" REEVES
Bodybuilding Legend Joins Muscular Development

"For over 30 years I've remained silent and just watched the transition that bodybuilding has made. And in my opinion, and in the opinions of many who have talked to me, bodybuilding, as it's practiced and promoted today, is dying--and dying fast.

Well, it's a good thing! Never in my life would I have imagined that such a terrific sport would be filled with so-called "champions" who are held up as heroes and adulated for physiques that are built with drugs. What kind of "real" bodybuilding champion is that?

Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.

It disturbs me to no end that today's muscle magazines are filled with stories on this-and-that champion's routine, when all the while the average man and woman are misled because these same magazines won't dare print the truth! And the truth is that these "champions" built their physiques after spending tens of thousands of dollars on steroids, growth hormone, insulin and whatever else happens to be the latest rage.

The public has been deceived for too long and it's time someone takes a stand. I will!

I want you to go to any newsstand during any given month and you'll find these same muscle magazines with cover blurbs and articles about the latest drugs. Open them up and you'll find page after page about drugs, how to take them and what to avoid. All this is the lie of supposedly giving their readers the information they say they want to know!

Recently, someone showed me a magazine put out by a young man in Colorado, and I was shocked. Unbelievably, bodybuilding is the only "sport" that has a magazine devoted to drugs! And this magazine promotes this character they call "the guru," who answers your most-asked drug-related questions.

After seeing photos of this fella, it makes you wonder; if drugs were so good, why didn't they work for him? Hey, and he's supposedly the "expert," whom people who want to know turn to! Wake up, friends! When and where will all this nonsense end? The other magazines won't stop it--and the bodybuilders sure as hell won't because they're stuck; either you keep taking drugs and getting bigger and more cut, or you won't win contests or get an endorsement contract.

Never in my life have I used any drug to build my body. Never! I wasn't born with the physique I built; I worked hard for it. Yet, I did it naturally. Sure, I didn't build it up to the size of today's drug-enhanced physiques, but I was after symmetry and proportion, and I achieved it in a package that allowed me to win the Mr. America and Mr. Universe titles, along with giving me a successful film career. Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
To me, a bodybuilder is someone who not only builds his body naturally, but has functional, real-world muscle that can be used at any time, and will help the person perform any activity better.

When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")

When Steve Blechman, Publisher and Editor-In-Chief of NATURAL MD, spoke to me about his vision for taking the sport back to its natural roots, I applauded him. For others in the industry have had the opportunity and have "talked the talk," but no one has had the guts to take a stand for what's right. Blechman has. And that is why, after all these years, I've decided to help the sport I love get back to its proper place. One of the ways I intend to do that is by writing a monthly column for NATURAL MD magazine.

Something needs to be done now; we have no choice. For where there is no vision the people perish; and where there is no vision for the future of bodybuilding, bodybuilding will perish.

Many people may ask if there is another reason for me coming out of retirement to help save the sport. The answer is no, and I want to make one thing crystal clear: My passion for what I do has never been driven by money. I retired at the peak of my movie career, so that I could live life on my own terms.

All my life, I have never answered to anyone and I'm not about to do it now. The only thing I can give you in the coming months--through the pages of this magazine--is honesty and the truth about building your body without drugs.

I will teach you everything you will need to know to build the body you truly want. That is, to build it naturally and without any drugs. If you want to look like the other bodybuilders and want the latest drug information, then go to the other magazines. I'm only interested in talking about one thing: real bodybuilding. If that's what you want, then my friend, welcome home!"

[Reeves]

STEVE "HERCULES" REEVES
Bodybuilding Legend Joins Muscular Development

"For over 30 years I've remained silent and just watched the transition that bodybuilding has made. And in my opinion, and in the opinions of many who have talked to me, bodybuilding, as it's practiced and promoted today, is dying--and dying fast.

Well, it's a good thing! Never in my life would I have imagined that such a terrific sport would be filled with so-called "champions" who are held up as heroes and adulated for physiques that are built with drugs. What kind of "real" bodybuilding champion is that?

Since when did a distinction need to be made between a "natural" bodybuilder and "chemical bodybuilder"? When I built my body, you were a bodybuilder--period! And you did it without drugs, by training hard, eating right and getting the right amount of rest.

It disturbs me to no end that today's muscle magazines are filled with stories on this-and-that champion's routine, when all the while the average man and woman are misled because these same magazines won't dare print the truth! And the truth is that these "champions" built their physiques after spending tens of thousands of dollars on steroids, growth hormone, insulin and whatever else happens to be the latest rage.

The public has been deceived for too long and it's time someone takes a stand. I will!

I want you to go to any newsstand during any given month and you'll find these same muscle magazines with cover blurbs and articles about the latest drugs. Open them up and you'll find page after page about drugs, how to take them and what to avoid. All this is the lie of supposedly giving their readers the information they say they want to know!

Recently, someone showed me a magazine put out by a young man in Colorado, and I was shocked. Unbelievably, bodybuilding is the only "sport" that has a magazine devoted to drugs! And this magazine promotes this character they call "the guru," who answers your most-asked drug-related questions.

After seeing photos of this fella, it makes you wonder; if drugs were so good, why didn't they work for him? Hey, and he's supposedly the "expert," whom people who want to know turn to! Wake up, friends! When and where will all this nonsense end? The other magazines won't stop it--and the bodybuilders sure as hell won't because they're stuck; either you keep taking drugs and getting bigger and more cut, or you won't win contests or get an endorsement contract.

Never in my life have I used any drug to build my body. Never! I wasn't born with the physique I built; I worked hard for it. Yet, I did it naturally. Sure, I didn't build it up to the size of today's drug-enhanced physiques, but I was after symmetry and proportion, and I achieved it in a package that allowed me to win the Mr. America and Mr. Universe titles, along with giving me a successful film career. Even today, at 71 years of age, I work on my ranch, work out and would be willing to bet that I could out-power walk many of those bloated muscle druggies 40 years my junior!
To me, a bodybuilder is someone who not only builds his body naturally, but has functional, real-world muscle that can be used at any time, and will help the person perform any activity better.

When it came to my body--the body you saw--and the condition I had, that was the body I had 24 hours a day, 365 days a year! I was not some bloated, out-of-shape, easily winded giant whose razor-sharp physique could only stay that way for a few weeks before or after a contest. (I can just hear the directive from the magazine editor to the photographers, "Hurry and snap those pictures before we lose him!")

When Steve Blechman, Publisher and Editor-In-Chief of NATURAL MD, spoke to me about his vision for taking the sport back to its natural roots, I applauded him. For others in the industry have had the opportunity and have "talked the talk," but no one has had the guts to take a stand for what's right. Blechman has. And that is why, after all these years, I've decided to help the sport I love get back to its proper place. One of the ways I intend to do that is by writing a monthly column for NATURAL MD magazine.

Something needs to be done now; we have no choice. For where there is no vision the people perish; and where there is no vision for the future of bodybuilding, bodybuilding will perish.

Many people may ask if there is another reason for me coming out of retirement to help save the sport. The answer is no, and I want to make one thing crystal clear: My passion for what I do has never been driven by money. I retired at the peak of my movie career, so that I could live life on my own terms.

All my life, I have never answered to anyone and I'm not about to do it now. The only thing I can give you in the coming months--through the pages of this magazine--is honesty and the truth about building your body without drugs.

I will teach you everything you will need to know to build the body you truly want. That is, to build it naturally and without any drugs. If you want to look like the other bodybuilders and want the latest drug information, then go to the other magazines. I'm only interested in talking about one thing: real bodybuilding. If that's what you want, then my friend, welcome home!"

Bazinga!

[Figo]

I will at your ignorance     

I love you how post examples and provide proof great job . you BELIEVE test was readily available and for you to claim he did use dbol would mean you know this first hand which is bullshit

you know the timeline of dbol , it was created years AFTER he retired and if you know anything about Reeves after he retired in 1950 he dropped weight for the movies so to claim he used it when it was available makes no sense

not me, I dont consider you ignorant either, does anyone, besides one looking at the world though rose-tinted glasses expect reeves to admit aas use, cmon ND, youre smarter than that
believe in fairy-tales, Im not saying zane was a better bber, better man, etc, just reeves is overrated. proof, no, I wasnt there, but around that time hoffman athletes were already using test, you guys (reeves, ND) know this too, but refusing to admit the holy reeves used

[NarcissisticDeity]

not me, I dont consider you ignorant either, does anyone, besides one looking at the world though rose-tinted glasses expect reeves to admit aas use, cmon ND, youre smarter than that
believe in fairy-tales, Im not saying zane was a better bber, better man, etc, just reeves is overrated. proof, no, I wasnt there, but around that time hoffman athletes were already using test, you guys (reeves, ND) know this too, but refusing to admit the holy reeves used

I don't care if anyone uses AAS I have zero problems with it , I never have. but when it comes to Reeves the time-line doesn't fit. John Ziegler was using test on Hoffman's weightlifters AFTER Reeves retired he didn't create D-bol until years AFTER Reeves retired again the time-line doesn't fit

Reeves was a man of honor and integrity he's always been adamantly opposed to drugs in bodybuilding and that's never changed. lets say for the sake of argument he did use he would have absolutely no reason what so ever to lie about it , they wouldn't have been illegal or a banned substance , Reeves using drugs doesn't fit the time-line and just doesn't make sense , he was 6'1" and weighed 215lbs , he wasn't exceptionally big in his time again Reeves on drugs defies logic , it has nothing to do with hero-worship

[Figo]

many from that time used, and were open about it, only to backtrack at a later time