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Marijuana is safer than water..
« on: February 20, 2011, 05:46:41 PM »
http://current.com/news/92999291_worth-repeating-approved-drugs-10-008-deaths-marijuana-0.htm

This shows that Marijuana is safe...I was under the impression that there was one fatality from  marijuana use..However, i was wrong.

There has never been a single documented primary human fatality from overdosing on cannabis in its natural form in any amount.

When a new drug is being developed, phase two of studying it determines how safe the drug is, what would be a possible therapeutic dose vs. a fatal dose. Remember, the difference between a medicine and a poison is only the dose.

The LD 50 of a drug stands for how much of the substance being tested will kill 50 percent of a population of test subjects by overdose compared to their body mass (rats are used), and the amount of the drug that killed 50 percent is averaged according to animal body weight, and then that information is extrapolated for an average human's weight.

The amount is theoretical, because the test could never be ethically performed in real humans.

When THC is tested for its LD 50 in rats, researchers have a problem: They can't seem to kill the rats with THC, no matter how hard they try! THC is just too damn safe.

According to the Merck Index, 12th edition (the number one reference book for medical doctors), the LD 50 value for rats by inhalation of THC is 42 mg/kg of body weight. Comparing this to an average human being, one estimate of THC's LD 50 for humans indicates that about 1,500 pounds (680 kg) if cannabis would have to be smoked within 14 minutes. Warning: Don't try this at home! In the real world, the only way this could possibly happen would be something like you are trapped in a house made of cannabis, it's engulfed in flames and all the windows and doors are locked -- the mother of all bong rips!)

By contrast, with alcohol, chugging as little as 10 ounces of 100 proof on an empty stomach would likely put a 150-pound person into a coma, possibly leading to respiratory arrest.


Even aspirin can kill you. Moderate toxicity occurs at doses up to 300 mg/kg, severe toxicity occurs between 300 to 500 mg/kg, and a potentially lethal dose is greater than 500 mg/kg, i.e., the LD 50 for a 150-pound person would be approximately 100 to 125 325-mg tabs of aspirin.

Acetaminophen causes three times as many cases of liver failure as all other drugs combined, and is the most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States -- accounting for 39 percent of all cases. While it occurs through overdosing, even recommended doses, especially combined with even small amounts of alcohol, have caused irreversible liver failure. Four grams of Tylenol -- that is, just eight extra-strength tabs, taken all at once -- kills you by killing your liver.

Have you ever heard of any person committing suicide with a marijuana overdose? No, because it is impossible. If you smoke too much you just fall asleep; that's it.

THC has to be the safest drug known to mankind. Safer than water? Maybe. Ever heard of marathon runners over-hydrating before a race, and inducing a state of hyponaturemia in their bodies (very low sodium serum blood levels), which can induce a fatal cardiac arrythmia? Numbers are hard to find; it only happens to a handful of people a year, but it's serious enough that it's on runners' radar, and they are warned not to over-drink water before a big race.

Here are the 17 commonly prescribed drugs (in four groups) that were compared to marijuana in this study.

#1. Anti-emetics: Drugs to stop vomiting, common with chemotherapy in cancer patients. Examples are Compazine (15 deaths), Reglan (37), Marinol (4), Zofran (79), Anzemet (22), Kytril (36), and Tigan (3). In the 10 year look back, these seven FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 197 people with normal use.

#2. Anti-spasmodics: Drugs to treat muscle spasms, widely used for the treatment of spastic movement disorders, especially in instances of spinal cord injury, spastic diplegia, cerebral palsy, multiple sclerosis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's disease), peripheral neuropathy and trigeminal. All are very serious medical conditions. Examples of drugs to treat these conditions are Baclofen (72 deaths) and Zanaflex (46 deaths). These two FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 118 people with normal use over 10 years. If there is one group that would benefit greatly from the peaceful effects of the herb, it's these humans who are in such need of joy.

#3. Anti-psychotics: Drugs used to treat psychosis. Haldol (450 deaths), Lithium (175), and Neurotin (968). These three FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 1,595 people with normal use over 10 years.

#4. Others: Drugs for depression, attention deficit disorder, pain, and erectile dysfunction. Ritalin (121), Wellbutrin (1,132), Adderall (54), Viagra (2,254), and Vioxx (4,540). These five FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 8,101 people with normal use over 10 years.

In total, 10,008 deaths due to company-tested drugs, with data reviewed by the FDA and approved for safe use in humans by M.D. prescription only -- vs. unregulated market cannabis, with ZERO deaths, with no M.D. overview, and about 15 percent of the U.S. population who make up the cannabis culture -- with NO recorded "marijuana deaths" in the death certificates or the news? No marijuana deaths, no matter how much you smoke at one time.

It is important to note that cannabis has been prescribed and used for centuries to treat some of these conditions, such as vomiting, muscle spasms, depression, pain control, anti-inflammatory and is somewhat of an aphrodisiac.

It doesn't always work -- but it DOESN'T KILL PEOPLE, EITHER!

Many times just being able to feel happy with no body pain and deep sleep is all a person needs to heal. Pain and suffering decrease immune system function. A big smile on your face turns the immune system on. When you are smiling, you are healing.

This huge psychological impact of cannabis is not recognized for its true worth. The "high" IS the cure!

The deaths recorded in relationship to these 17 FDA-approved drugs are all due to "adverse events." This means anything that caused people to die due to normal therapeutic doses, with the possibility of unforeseen major side effects, or accidental or purposeful overdose (both rare).

Mostly in these cases, people were just taking the normal dose as per doctor's orders and died directly due to the drug only.

Any time you take a prescribed drug, look it up and check its safety record. Remember all the drug commercials you see a hundred times a day? Part one, why you need this drug; part two, all the insane common major side effects -- like death! Hell, I almost died taking Lipitor!

Warning: Never discontinue taking a prescribed medicine on your own. Always talk to your doctor first before changing any drug treatment plan. Always talk with your M.D.; they are on your side.

So remind me again. Why is marijuana illegal?

Why is marijuana a "Schedule I" drug?

Why all the misinformation surrounding marijuana?

Why would drugs with such poor safety records be prescribed?

There is such an irrational resistance to this time-proven, gentle medicine.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 05:54:00 PM »
In the real world, the only way this could possibly happen would be something like you are trapped in a house made of cannabis, it's engulfed in flames and all the windows and doors are locked -- the mother of all bong rips!)

That would be one hell of a high, lol.

I smoke a couple of joints every 6 - 8 weeks and it's great. Wouldn't want to do it more often, though.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 05:57:52 PM »
Grass is up there with God.


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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 05:59:38 PM »
That would be one hell of a high, lol.

I smoke a couple of joints every 6 - 8 weeks and it's great. Wouldn't want to do it more often, though.

Yes, it would...You would probally shit your pants and vomit at the same time as well...

I don't smoke weed anymore, it makes me think to much...I use drugs so i can slow down the thought process...

Besides, i already graduated from the weed acedemy and am on to the next big thing.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 06:01:24 PM »
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BUD BUDDIES WAS FOUNDED TO HELP PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM A GENUINE ILLNESS. CANNABIS HAS BEEN USED MEDICINALLY FOR OVER 5,000 YEARS, MEDICAL USE WAS BANNED IN 1971, TODAY THE GOVERNMENT IS PROSECUTING AND PERSECUTING SICK PEOPLE FOR USING CANNABIS. IT HAS TO STOP. WE AT BUD BUDDIES DO NOT WISH FOR SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY TO HAVE TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THE CRIMINAL DRUG DEALERS WHO DEAL IN POOR QUALITY CANNABIS. SEE OUR WEBSITE FOR DETAILS. DUMP THE DEALER WITH WWW.UK420.COM




I haven't actually joined this group, but I thought it'd be funny to announce its existence.



You can get 'Medicinal Marijuana' in California?

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 06:03:35 PM »
on to the next big thing.


such as?



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Alcohol is legal and 1000% more damaging.  What type of pain relief are you looking for?

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 06:04:25 PM »
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BUD BUDDIES WAS FOUNDED TO HELP PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM A GENUINE ILLNESS. CANNABIS HAS BEEN USED MEDICINALLY FOR OVER 5,000 YEARS, MEDICAL USE WAS BANNED IN 1971, TODAY THE GOVERNMENT IS PROSECUTING AND PERSECUTING SICK PEOPLE FOR USING CANNABIS. IT HAS TO STOP. WE AT BUD BUDDIES DO NOT WISH FOR SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY TO HAVE TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THE CRIMINAL DRUG DEALERS WHO DEAL IN POOR QUALITY CANNABIS. SEE OUR WEBSITE FOR DETAILS. DUMP THE DEALER WITH WWW.UK420.COM




I haven't actually joined this group, but I thought it's funny

It's quite sad that MJ has such vast medical uses and the Government frowns upon its use.  While pushing toxic expensive pharmaceutical alternatives

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 06:06:50 PM »

such as?



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Alcohol is legal and 1000% more damaging.  What type of pain relief are you looking for?

Let me tell the truth...On occiasion i like to do some cocaine, and when i do i enjoy "making" sex with hookers, or my girlfriend..

I only suffer from migraine headaches..i would like something that helped with those. However, only Imitrex, morphine, and cocaine seem to help..

However, I don't like using morphine to treat migraines, due to the ovious reasons..However, i'm prescibed it for migraine pain along with imitrex.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 06:10:35 PM »
Absolutely.  As stated, I reckon that the fact that alcohol and nicotine are legal ought be queried?

The other thing that irks me enormously is that they think we'll smoke a joint then the next day start on crack or heroin.



Think I'll just smoke dope, thanks
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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 06:13:08 PM »
LOL this is the most retarted shit ive ever heard...

yes you cant overdose on pot, that doesnt make it safer than water LMFAO...

this is akin to spouting off that tobacco is safer than water  ::)

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 06:13:57 PM »
Let me tell the truth...On occiasion i like to do some cocaine, and when i do i enjoy "making" sex with hookers, or my girlfriend..

I only suffer from migraine headaches..i would like something that helped with those. However, only Imitrex, morphine, and cocaine seem to help..

However, I don't like using morphine to treat migraines, due to the ovious reasons..However, i'm prescibed it for migraine pain along with imitrex.


you're joking, right?  you've just contradicted yourself and admitted to overdoing it.


Smoke a big fat joint next time you have a migraine
and just get over the rest, give up chemicals and etc.



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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 06:14:32 PM »
Absolutely.  As stated, I reckon that the fact that alcohol and nicotine are legal ought be queried?

The other thing that irks me enormously is that they think we'll smoke a joint then the next day start on crack or heroin.



Think I'll just smoke dope, thanks
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Weed does have the stigma of being a gateway drug..However, people who have never smoked weed mainly say that..I do belive that weed will make people more likley to revolt against their respective goverments..Which isn't a bad thing..

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 06:15:32 PM »
LOL this is the most retarted shit ive ever heard...

yes you cant overdose on pot, that doesnt make it safer than water LMFAO...

this is akin to spouting off that tobacco is safer than water  ::)


how old are you?  Nicotine will kill you.  Fact.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2011, 06:16:55 PM »
LOL this is the most retarted shit ive ever heard...

yes you cant overdose on pot, that doesnt make it safer than water LMFAO...

this is akin to spouting off that tobacco is safer than water  ::)

Well your more likely to die from consuming to much water, than from weed..So move along you yank..

BTW your analogy is akin to shit...Hope this helps.

Besides Tabacco has nitotine which is a stimulant...To much of that stuff can kill you just like any other stimulant.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 06:18:22 PM »
Weed does have the stigma of being a gateway drug..However, people who have never smoked weed mainly say that..I do belive that weed will make people more likley to revolt against their respective goverments..Which isn't a bad thing..


Do they grow mj in tunisia, jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, libya and whereelse is it they're kicking off today?  I think not.




sorry, I'm going for a holiday to British Colombia Canada.  Either that or Kerala India.  xxxL

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 06:20:17 PM »

They grow mj in tunisia, jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, libya and whereelse is it they're kicking off today?




sorry, I'm going for a holiday to British Colombia Canada.  Either that or Kerala India.  xxxL

You can see why weed isn't exactly encouraged by the goverments...

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 06:20:29 PM »
move along you wank..

BTW your analogy is akin to shit...Hope this helps.

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Re: Marijuana is safer than water..
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 06:21:42 PM »

how old are you?  Nicotine will kill you.  Fact.

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hmm what does age have to do with anything?

Im no straight laced goodie two shoes little lady ive done plenty of drugs in my past and was a more than anything a pot head...

LOL and so will smoking pot...

anybody that thinks that inhaling any form of smoke is not doing some harm to your system is fuking stupid...

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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 06:24:34 PM »
Well your more likely to die from consuming to much water, than from weed..So move along you yank..

BTW your analogy is akin to shit...Hope this helps.

Besides Tabacco has nitotine which is a stimulant...To much of that stuff can kill you just like any other stimulant.
LOL so youre more likely to get into an accident driving after smoking pot than drinking a glass of water...

youre more likely to build up tar and other chemicals within your body after smoking pot than drinking water...

the idea that simply b/c you cant over dose on pot makes it safe is assinine....you cant over dose from smoking cigs either so i guess that makes it safer than water too, right?

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 06:26:32 PM »
You can see why weed isn't exactly encouraged by the goverments...


yours (I'm assuming you're American?  has legalised it for medicinal use in Cali.

In my country (a little island the size of Lake Superior?  they're still wrestling with foreign policy and banking crises.  It'll take another 20 years for them to get their heads around taxing grass and reaping the profits.  

As stated above, they toked once at Eton Uni and did a study with other like minded tossers and suddenly think that "drug dealers" deal in coke heroin crack as well as mj.  In my experience, and I've smoked dope all my long and beautiful life, people who smoke weed don't mess with hard drugs.


Amsterdam is lovely.
They have menus there
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 06:28:42 PM »
you cant over dose from smoking cigs either so i guess ?


no silly man, you get lung cancer and die around 60 or 65 from nicotine and you don't even get off on it.

2 in 1 cigarette smokers die.



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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 06:28:45 PM »
LOL so youre more likely to get into an accident driving after smoking pot than drinking a glass of water...(what if you drink 5 gallons in one sitting) surely you will die and hit another car, barrior etc.

youre more likely to build up tar and other chemicals within your body after smoking pot than drinking water...(water has floride, etc which is also toxic and mind altering)

the idea that simply b/c you cant over dose on pot makes it safe is assinine....you cant over dose from smoking cigs either so i guess that makes it safer than water too, right?
  In theory you can die from the stimulation from the nicotine..  

Now move along you yank.. ;D

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 06:32:30 PM »

no silly man, you get lung cancer and die around 60 or 65 from nicotine and you don't even get off on it.

2 in 1 smokers die.



get with the program
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LOL thats not the reasoning behind the retards reasoning for saying pot is safer than water linda...

his reasoning is that pot is safer than water b/c you cant overdose on pot and if you drink enough water you will die...

you cant overdose on cigarettes linda so according to this moron cigarettes are safer than water too...GET IT?

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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 06:34:39 PM »

Now move along you yank.. ;D
LMFAO and in theory you can die from overdosing on pot...that doesnt mean its practically applicable...

hey youre free to look like as big of an idiot as you want to...just thought id point out how big of one you looked like just in case you wanted an idea of where you stood ;)

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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 06:37:43 PM »
move along you Wank

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next you'll say the pills you pop are safe.  And I haven't even started discussing bottled water...